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Tryptamines The Big & Dandy Bufotenine (5-HO-DMT) Thread - The Truth is Out There

Anadenanthera said:
If you think these people on this forum are going to believe you, you don't have any idea what you're up against.

When I post something I discover they say, “OH NO! That can’t be! Its not published somewhere in some old text book! You must be wrong!” Yeah…that’s the response I get all the time. Of course, if I discover something, it’s not published because I DISCOVERED IT and so I can’t give you references because I AM THE REFERENCE.

I've posted countless accurate hard facts about bufotenine gathered from years of work on the subject and nearly all of them were met with complaints from people that no nothing about bufotenine.

I've studied bufotenine for many years. I know what I’m talking about.

It’s amazing how quick people call you a liar on these forums without ever actually testing what you say for its validity.

I just wish people would test things I say, and then give a response. But no one does. They all come up with stuff out of “make believe land”. A bunch of worthless theories, with 99% of them wrong. No one here ever tested anything I said about calcium bufotenate. The fools! It’s laughable. They call me a liar without even testing it. If they did test it, they would be thanking me for letting them know about it.

One of my friends, who will remain un-named, for legal reasons, is the one who discovered calcium bufotenate and will probably be famous for it one day. At that point I will say, “I TOLD YOU SO”!!!!!
Don't be such a poopy head :) . Because of YOUR posts I've ordered seeds and bought lime and mixed up snuff. I've even sample just a little but am going slow. I even pm'd you THANKING you for the contributions and even requested a little more info with your name highlighted in red in a post above.

So, try to see the positive attention you are receiving as well as the skepticism. Conventional knowledge is NEVER challenged without resistance. I for one, very much appreciate your posts.
 
^^If nothing else anadenethera, you have at least inspired us to get to the bottom of the calcium bufotenate issue:\
 
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This is definitely the molecule of the week for me. I feel the need to live around more.
 

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^^I am on to you guys. Every time someone new comes on here you start asking about rectal hoping they will respond to you.
Why don’t you just go to a dating site the odds will be much better.
Let keep it clean. Take this behavior to the Lounge. Thanks
 
Discussion of rectal administration has nothing to do with homosexuality or anything like that. It's a very valid form of administration, efficient and powerful with nearly all the advantages of oral administration but without the nausea or GI distress. It is most certainly not Lounge material. But the above post could be.
 
Somebody (i.e. you) is scared of their latent homosexuality because those who
fear the mere thought that some guys like other guys tend to like other guys themselves...but the idea disgusts them so, that they deflect those feelings by accusing others of being that way.

We are in fact on to you. :p

Personally I love it when my g/f gives me ass play. :) A finger up there during orgasm is quite delightful. See, you don't even have to be gay to like it in the ass.

luckytaak said:
^^I am on to you guys. Every time someone new comes on here you start asking about rectal hoping they will respond to you.
Why don’t you just go to a dating site the odds will be much better.
Let keep it clean. Take this behavior to the Lounge. Thanks
 
I let you guys think I am gay there is nothing wrong with being gay. If I was gay I would behave like a respectable human being so I could give the gay community a good reputation they already struggle with a lot of misconceptions (like being total perverts) (and getting naive young kids to put things in their asses over the internet).

I like vaginas but I don’t go around to every thread and ask girl if they have put things in their vaginas. There is a time and place for behavior like that.
You guys give gay people a bad name…

So get your acts together and stop giving the gay community a bad name.
 
Okay kiddies, lets all stay on topic. Luckytaak has been warned for two posts in this thread; lets not feeed the troll. I'm going to delete a bunch of off-topic posts- this thread will become a really good reference for future use of Bufotenine; I think discussion of sexuality are best left aside.
 
hi,

back on topic,

I thank Anadenanthera, MGS, treebear, Erick Smyth, Vecktor...

well, to all posters, for fostering this discussion,

now, to the bioassays................> ;)

cheers !
 
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I thank Anadenanthera, MGS, treebear, Erick Smyth, Vecktor...

I do too. Some A. colubrina seed sits in a dark drawer awaiting some sort of impetus for me to bioassay....i'm just concerned because I'm on zoloft, so may leave the courageous seeking to others. This may result in something very important for the psychedelic community at large. :)
 
If I can get over my nervousness I'll likely give it go in the next few days.

What tolerance /cross tolerance issues are involved with calcium bufotenate? Anyone know?

Also, to recap snuff prep:
1. Roast seeds over low heat till they pop. Use a lid as they will jump out of the pot otherwise.
2. Remove and discard the seed hull.
3. Pulverize inner seed to powder with mortar and pestle.
4. Add powdered lime in a 1:4 ratio of lime to seed powder.
5. Mix the two thoroughly.
6. Moisten with water till consistency of dough and kneed thoroughly.
7. Allow the seed dough to sit for around 16 hours
8. Pulverize the dough to flour like consistency.
9. Allow the snuff to sit for a few days in open air for further conversion of the calcium hydroxide to calcium carbonate which will help reduce pain during insuffalation.

Dosage is approximately a total of 1/2 gram (?) of the prepared snuff insuffalated into the nostrils. Drainage should not be swallowed but allowed to drip into the mouth and drooled or spit out. The nostrils can be cleared of the snuff after about 15 minutes. Duration is approximately 2 hours.

Feel free to point out my mistakes/omissions.
 
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Thanks Eric, excellent post.

Reguarding Calcium Bufotenate, I believe Anadenanthera posted (or someone else, please excuse my laziness) that using lime results in calcium bufotenate . The reports of vaporizing/snorting calcium bufotenate use small amounts like the 15mg you mentioned, so although diluted with the rest of the seed, perhaps 1/2 gram would be on the money since 100 mg calcium bufotenate would be a clear overdose. Are you recommending more based on experience ?

An extract certainly is a consideration. I like the idea of sampling, at least to some degree, something considered special from another culture so the snuff is the first exploration. I can't imagine having a nose full of pulverized seed as something I'd be interested in repeating very frequently .
 
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Well, I gave it a go a few minutes ago. The snuff was prepared a few days ago by roasting, deshelling, pulverizing and then adding some water and what looked like an amount of lime to meet a 1:4 ratio (lime:seeds). The stuff was mixed into a putty and let dry completely (about 24 hours) then the stuff was pulverized in a mortar and pestle to an ultra fine consistency and let sit for 3 days in a dark closet but in open air.

I weighed out a 500mg portion split it into 4 lines and up the honker it went. It didn't burn in the slightest. I mean not even a little bit. I watched the clock and when 3 minutes had passed without effect I eyeballed what looked like another 500 mgs and snorted about 80% of it. After 15 minutes of drooling and doing my best not to swallow any seed powder, I blew my nose. I think that , perhaps, I'm having very mild effects. Typically , though, when I think I'm having very mild effects, I change my mind about that once I try the substance and get strong effects. I guess I must have added too much lime or have acquired very weak seeds.

Bummer. Perhaps I'll try it again with less lime.
 
I just weighed out 2.9 grams of the snuff and it sure seemed to be a shitload of material to put up my nose. I coughed like hell after the first nostril full (they seem to go strait through my nasal pasages into my lungs) and I just couldn't get the entire amount up there and about 200 mgs remained.

Unfortunately, still no effects. Not even threshhold of a subthreshhold. I did puke but it had nothing to do with the effects of bufo, really it was a gag reflex from inhaling the snuff. I've had no nausea or any kind of effect other than having sinuses that feel like I've been in a pool all day. I don't even think it's the lime, I believe it's that the seeds are either very week or from a tree that is very similar but not A. Colubrina.
 
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