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without having tried mephedrone I can assure you it is complete shit in comparison to methylone (which is quite nice).
mugabe said:mephedrone is actually great although it would be better if it lasted longer, i dont rate methylone at all
Gaian Planes said:mephedrone is likely a neurotoxic pile of shit
Gaian Planes said:i'm just kidding, but seriously ya'll be careful with these new stimulants, some of them are likely to be very neurotoxic.
Xorkoth said:You don't have to try something to know that its chemical structure is very similar to things that are definitely neurotoxic. Then again, so is methylone's chemical structure.
Ismene said:There's a difference between something being neurotoxic and it having any damaging effect on you tho. You can inject enormous quantities of MDMA directly into a rats brain every 4 hours for 6 days in a row and then kill it, dissect it's brain and notice a certain cell has some damage - that's one thing. But the other thing you have to remember is that if you put the rat back in the wild after you'd fucked about with it, within a day or two it would be completely indistuingishable from any other rat and would live just as healthy a life. The brain deals with millions of dead and dying cells every day and we don't all fall over in a heap with brain damage.
I agree! and then of course for another alternative, a drug can be neurotoxic and actually DO YOU GOOD (destroy regions of the brain that you're better off without), in theory.Ismene said:There's a difference between something being neurotoxic and it having any damaging effect on you tho. You can inject enormous quantities of MDMA directly into a rats brain every 4 hours for 6 days in a row and then kill it, dissect it's brain and notice a certain cell has some damage - that's one thing. But the other thing you have to remember is that if you put the rat back in the wild after you'd fucked about with it, within a day or two it would be completely indistuingishable from any other rat and would live just as healthy a life. The brain deals with millions of dead and dying cells every day and we don't all fall over in a heap with brain damage.
Whether or not something is theoretically neurotoxic is a completely different matter to whether it does you any harm. Lots of people seem to think that because something is "neurotoxic" that if you take it that means you will notice symptoms of brain damage in yourself. That's now how it works.
We have all been breathing enormous quantities of neurotoxins in the air we breathe since we were infants. We don't see the brain damage from that because there's no-one telling us in the newspapers "You are breathing neurotoxins". If there was was much propaganda about air quality as Ecstasy everyone would be walking around wearing gasmasks.