DwayneHoover
Bluelighter
Yes, Samhadi, that is the case documented here:
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ABSTRACT: Combined intoxication with methylone and 5-MeO-MIPT
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...ffaa649a8e77be
There's a link to a page with links to full pdf copy if this paper and some very interesting other papers here: http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/l...s.php?catid=18
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It was sold as pure methylone and the poor guy did 200mg, perfectly sensible dose.
Unfortunately it was actually 61% methylone and 39% 5meomipt. So he ended up doing like 75mg of 5meomipt (normal range 5-15mg)... a massive overdose all on its own. He became very confused. They gave him a sedative. He came down and said "So sorry... what was I doing last 4 hours?". Yelling and shouting at no one and nothing for no reason is what he was doing. The Methylone may have had nothing to do with it. At least this tells us this mix is not immediately fatal. Guy was 3 or 4 hours in. Report does not mention any severe physical side-effects. Heart rate 150bpm, which is high but not really dangerous.
ANYWAY..... still looking for either
a) someone who has tried such a combo in more normal doses and can report on sequence, timing and effects
OR
b) someone who has tried both chems separately, and wants to discuss it on a theoretical basis.
My reasoning for doing the 5meomipt first and waiting for it to plateau to do the Methylone is:
a) 5meomipt lasts longer than methylone
b) it seems to have the effect of greatly potentiating a wide variety of other substances
c) staging it in this manner will, hopefully:
_1) allow the use of a smaller amount of Methylone, since it might be potentiated, saving money, material, and and also giving your system a smaller amount of a foreign chemical to process (i.e., easier on the liver, etc.)
_2) extend the length of action of Methylone, which always seems to be just a little disapointingly short, since the potentialting base of the 5meomipt will already be set up and active in your system, and it generally lasts 5-7 hours.
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ABSTRACT: Combined intoxication with methylone and 5-MeO-MIPT
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...ffaa649a8e77be
There's a link to a page with links to full pdf copy if this paper and some very interesting other papers here: http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/forum/l...s.php?catid=18
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It was sold as pure methylone and the poor guy did 200mg, perfectly sensible dose.
Unfortunately it was actually 61% methylone and 39% 5meomipt. So he ended up doing like 75mg of 5meomipt (normal range 5-15mg)... a massive overdose all on its own. He became very confused. They gave him a sedative. He came down and said "So sorry... what was I doing last 4 hours?". Yelling and shouting at no one and nothing for no reason is what he was doing. The Methylone may have had nothing to do with it. At least this tells us this mix is not immediately fatal. Guy was 3 or 4 hours in. Report does not mention any severe physical side-effects. Heart rate 150bpm, which is high but not really dangerous.
ANYWAY..... still looking for either
a) someone who has tried such a combo in more normal doses and can report on sequence, timing and effects
OR
b) someone who has tried both chems separately, and wants to discuss it on a theoretical basis.
My reasoning for doing the 5meomipt first and waiting for it to plateau to do the Methylone is:
a) 5meomipt lasts longer than methylone
b) it seems to have the effect of greatly potentiating a wide variety of other substances
c) staging it in this manner will, hopefully:
_1) allow the use of a smaller amount of Methylone, since it might be potentiated, saving money, material, and and also giving your system a smaller amount of a foreign chemical to process (i.e., easier on the liver, etc.)
_2) extend the length of action of Methylone, which always seems to be just a little disapointingly short, since the potentialting base of the 5meomipt will already be set up and active in your system, and it generally lasts 5-7 hours.
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