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The Big & Dandy bk-MDMA (Methylone) Thread

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You guys should try recrystalizing (racemic) Ketamine (from Isopropanol). It will form striking snow-flake shaped crystals. I also love the lattice-like structure of GHB crystals as they emerge from GBL saponation. But I digress. Since I probably will never consume what Methylone I have left (that I haven't given away), I might play with it as such and post pics.
 
Methylone is indeed a nice chemical. I found very (multigram) dosages to be extremely jittery but regular doses are nice, and IM injection in the buttocks of just under a quarter gram felt warm and fuzzy, like an opiate.
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250mg of methylone via IM will make most people feel ill unless they have a fairly acute tolerance to such things & I'd say is to be avoided; the same goes to consumption of amounts over 1g.

You have to remember that methylone causes release of dopamine & serotonin, so dosage at that sort of level is almost a certainty to be causing the same sort of damage that very large doses of MDMA causes through 5HT neurones reutaking dopamine & subsequent metabolic damage.

Just because methyone feels benign doesn't mean that it is...
 
Does that apply to taking a gram during the course of an evening f&b? Or taking a gram all at once?

I remember the guy in New Zealand who was trying to convince the government it was benign said he could give people 2g of it in a night and they'd feel fine - if he did that with E they would have fallen over so his argument was it was safer.
 
Well personally I wouldn't go over a gram for a night, just because it's mechanism of action is the same as MDMA. Taking a gram all in one go just seems asking for trouble IMO.

As for the bloke in NZ, I just love his logic - it's benign because it's not as toxic as MDMA. Most psychedelics are much safer than MDMA/methylone/other entactogens, but I can't see anybody in any government thinking it was OK to dish them out
 
^ A gram is far too much in one go unless there are tolerance issues.

200mgs plugged is tops IMO - then maybe top up 90 minutes later with another 100mgs.

to my mind that's plenty enough.


Set & setting are also very important factors with this substance IMO.

Possibly moreso setting come to think about it.

Best with loved one or & close friends in a comfortable enviroment - e.g. your house etc. IMO
 
It might feel benign because it doesn't disable tryptophan hydroxalase (and thus the recovery is much quicker), but that still does NOT mean that it is not damaging serotonergic neurons with similar mechanisms as MDMA.
 
Hmm...that doesn't fill me with great confidence guys. I must admit I've probably gone past the gram a night level about half a dozen times over the last couple of years.

What exactly are the consequences of damaging the serotonergic system? I don't actually believe in chemical theories of depression - I think it was all made up by the pharma corporations to sell SSRI's, so apart from depression - are there any other consequences?

Would your cock rot and fall off for example?
 
Of course, like any drug user, when I say "only half a dozen times" I actually mean about 500 times :D
 
Just curious, how often do you truthfully use methylone these days? Every weekend? Once a month?

You say you notice no downsides from frequent use, right?

I myself notice nothing more than a little lethargy (which can be explained by the lack of sleep I usually get in a night of using it) and appetite suppression the following day. If anything I feel mildly euphoric the next day.

However I keep my doses low, rarely going over 100mg plugged. I use piracetam with it to potentiate the effects so I need much lower doses than some talk about on here.
 
Im starting to think what I had was deffinately methylone over a "holiday retreat" I mena, I did prob over 4 grams of it in three nights. I hope it wasnt mdma or I have some FUCKED up tollerance.
 
samadhi_smiles said:
Just curious, how often do you truthfully use methylone these days? Every weekend? Once a month?

You say you notice no downsides from frequent use, right?
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There's usually 3-6 months in between me getting any but when I get do some I've used it 3 days in a row - half a gram a night each time. No hangover but obviously it's not wise to use anything to that degree. I'll have to show discipline in future.

The effects do change tho - if you havn't had it in 6 months then it is very mdma-like. After you get a tolerance then the mdma effects fall away and it basically becomes just a pleasant, happy feeling.
 
Never had speed, but I don't really notice any after-effects at all. I feel exactly the same as if I hadn't been on the binge. Perhaps that's a dangerous thing and in 10 years I'll be totally ga-ga.
 
Youkai said:
Im starting to think what I had was deffinately methylone over a "holiday retreat" I mena, I did prob over 4 grams of it in three nights. I hope it wasnt mdma or I have some FUCKED up tollerance.
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The way you describe your MDMA use man, I would be kind of surprised if you didn't have some fucked up tolerance.

I think it would be pretty hard to confuse the two drugs if you have any real amount of experience with either.

If you are taking over a gram a night of either, especially repeatedly... one day after the other, you really need to re-evaluate what you are doing and why.

Actually, let me just ask, because I am really curious, given that you know you have to be inducing brain damage of some sort, and I have my doubts that you even bother to take minor and essentially free and overly convenient precautions like loading on antioxidants (whatever limited good that may do).

Why?
(serious question. not trying to be an ass)
 
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