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The Big & Dandy Basic Mescaline/Cactus Questions Thread - Round Two!

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Read your own words a few posts back: "It is an extremely powerful substance that can have a profound effect on your perception of the world"

Not something I could see anyone recommending for 'recreational' use.
 
Sorry, I was referring to low doses in particular, sorry I should made that clear. Can a 'mild' mescaline trip be as recreational as MDxx substances?

As an example, by 'mild' I mean dosing on the result of an alcohol extraction on about 25g dried Peruvian Torch cactus (I just purchased this exact amount from London today as a matter of fact).

The reason I ask is that I vaguely recall someone saying that their experience was comparable to rolling and I wanted to see if there is any truth to the statement.

Anyone?
 
Artificial Emotion said:
^ Except that it has a real potential to cause psychological damage, even if you do not suffer from any pre-existing mental illness or psychological issues. Mescaline is nothing to be taken lightly - it is an extremely powerful substance that can have a profound effect on your perception of the world. Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty sure you already know this and I'm not trying to say you don't know what you're talking about when you obviously do, but I just wanted to make this clear to anyone who is considering trying this substance. Bad trips are real and do happen.
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AE, I was responding to this:

EuphoricLg said:
does mescaline have any long term effects to the brain, besides psychologically?
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Artificial Emotion said:
Sorry, I was referring to low doses in particular, sorry I should made that clear. Can a 'mild' mescaline trip be as recreational as MDxx substances?

As an example, by 'mild' I mean dosing on the result of an alcohol extraction on about 25g dried Peruvian Torch cactus (I just purchased this exact amount from London today as a matter of fact).

The reason I ask is that I vaguely recall someone saying that their experience was comparable to rolling and I wanted to see if there is any truth to the statement.

Anyone?
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In my experience cactus is the closest natural drug to MDxx I have ever expereinced. At low doses there is a definite empathogenic quality to it. Not as "in your face" and powerful as MDMA but more subtle and authentic. Mescaline also wont have that powerful MDMA euphoric "rush" but it has a more real type of euphoria, peaceful and mellow are words I would use to describe it. The lack of that powerful MDMA euphoric rush also means no comedown. You'll feel fantastic the next day....afterglow :)
 
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Set and setting aside, are lower doses less likely to cause bad trips than higher doses?

Also, what other substances present in San Pedro apart from mescaline are psychoactive? Do the other substances produce synergy with the mescaline like cannabinoids other than THC in cannabis do?
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There is no such thing as a bad trip. That is just government propaganda. No worries.
 
People suffer from negative thoughts, anxiety, panic and fear which I would call having a bad trip.

mrjackjones said:
I read that its possible to have a fatal overdose from mescaline. Is that true?
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It is very unlikely that this could happen accidentally. The LD50 is sufficiently high that you would have to try very hard to kill yourself from ingesting mescaline.
 
No, thats a difficult introspective trip. When its over, you will have worked out many problems in your mind and thus emerge a stronger person. Difficult trips are part of frequent psychedelic use.
 
I had a difficult trip recently and don't feel I gained anything from it. In fact, I feel much more vulnerable as a result now. Is this an exception to the rule rather than the norm?
 
Vulnerable? You could view your current state as being more insightful or intuitive of stimuli, an enhanced level of understanding. What was the substance which you hallucinated on?
 
^ Embarassingly, I do not know. I do suspect it was DOB, although I am unsure as there is absolutely no way for me to verify what substance I had taken. When I took the substance I took a step back to examine my life and who I now am as a person and was very uncomfortable with what I saw. I feel I am now more prone to depressive/negative thoughts with the traumatic experience I had.
 
I had tripped on psilocybin, LSD, and mescaline before I tried salvia divinorum. I was always leery of hallucinogens like "Oh no, I hope I don't freak out this time", but after I had the most terrifying experiences of my life on salvia, I became fearless of all other psychedelics. Now I embrace the freak out.

I have yet to get into the synthetic 'research chemical' or 'designer' hallucinogens, but I hope to in the future. What was it like? Good visuals?
 
Artificial Emotion said:
Set and setting aside, are lower doses less likely to cause bad trips than higher doses?

Also, what other substances present in San Pedro apart from mescaline are psychoactive? Do the other substances produce synergy with the mescaline like cannabinoids other than THC in cannabis do?
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artificial emotion, tbh i find mescaline to be the most recreational of the classical plant psychedelics. on the other hand, be prepared to trip for 12+ hours. not something for the weak of mind.
 
how much mescaline do i need if i want to trip for about 6 to 10 hours and it's being divided between 3 people? (it's san pedro if that makes a difference)
 
Dosage is going to affect the intensity of the trip more than the length (ie a lower dose will be close to as long as a higher dose, but you won't trip as hard). That said a low dose will probably be somewhat shorter than a higher dose, but if you want to feel the effects at all, you will probably be tripping for more than 6 hours.
 
effingcustie said:
Dosage is going to affect the intensity of the trip more than the length (ie a lower dose will be close to as long as a higher dose, but you won't trip as hard). That said a low dose will probably be somewhat shorter than a higher dose, but if you want to feel the effects at all, you will probably be tripping for more than 6 hours.
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So how much is a typical dose of san pedro then?
 
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I would like to know if it is possible to overdose or underdose from a decent sized 12'' SP cutting, on either side of the potency spectrum.
 
The threshold dose is around 150 mg and the maximum safe dose is 1000 mg according to the San Pedro potency FAQ on Erowid.org: http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_sanpedro_potency_faq.shtml

714 grams at most if you assume you have the most potent SP cactus possible, threshold dose is then 107 grams. Now if you take the least potent one you would need to eat at least 2.5 kg and around 17 kg at most.

This is with fresh SP cacti, good luck with it as you are going to need it (speaking from experience). The reward is great however if you hit the sweet spot. :)

Peace o/
 
Sounds like six pounds would do well, either way (I'd hate to take three pounds and just break threshhold...)
 
i usually use between 2 and 4 ounces of dried peruvian torch. san pedro cactus has more alkaloids whereas peruvian torch only contains mescaline. 2 ounces would yield a "typical" trip whereas 4 ounces would be real strong. As for going wrong with a 12" specimen.. that is nearly impossible to overdose on. It would have to be 5-10x normal potency for you to approach that range
 
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