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The Big & Dandy Basic Mescaline/Cactus Questions Thread - Round Two!

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No problem. :) Did you friend recommend the macrognus due to experience with it, or based on the vendor's description? I just wonder because if you friend has experience with it then it may be that you have at least some idea of the potency.

But anyway, yeah, this is the problem with working with plants... it's virtually impossible to know what sort of dose you're working with. It's both a blessing and a curse I would say. :)

I'm going to go feed my trichocereus friends now. :)
 
Mjäll said:
Very valid points. However, the alkaloid content seems to be as mescaline-dominated as in San Pedro, so I'm not really afraid of the Harmala interaction in that sense. 56 grams of cactus seems like it might get out of hand, though. The problem here, as I see it, is that tolerance may have kicked in by the time we can effectively gauge the intensity of the trip, making refill doses tricky. Is that right?
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I can't say from personal experience as I've never redosed with mescaline, but I've read that tolerance is not as much of an issue with it as it is with many other psychedelics, and you can take another dose during a trip without the strength of effects being diminished very much
 
Xorkoth said:
No problem. :) Did you friend recommend the macrognus due to experience with it, or based on the vendor's description? I just wonder because if you friend has experience with it then it may be that you have at least some idea of the potency.

But anyway, yeah, this is the problem with working with plants... it's virtually impossible to know what sort of dose you're working with. It's both a blessing and a curse I would say. :)

I'm going to go feed my trichocereus friends now. :)
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Nah, it's his first cactus experience as well so he based his decision on the vendor's words.

I see how the insecure dosage is a blessing, in a self-protective ritual-forming integrative sort of way. You kind of miss out on that grounding aspect when messing with pills and powders.

Haha, good luck :D

effingcustie said:
I can't say from personal experience as I've never redosed with mescaline, but I've read that tolerance is not as much of an issue with it as it is with many other psychedelics, and you can take another dose during a trip without the strength of effects being diminished very much
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Okay, then that's probably how we will do it!
 
I am looking to take mescaline for the first time this weekend. Yes, never before have I tasted mescaline...in either its pure form, nor cacti tea.

For me, it will be mescaline of lab origin...350mg of the hcl salt. Actually, I am unsure how to figure out my dosage but I want to take the equivalent of 400mg of the sulfate. So how much would that be?

My other question is...should I take it as two dosages a 1/2hr apart? Will it be less intense this way? I am not scared of a purge, indeed I could use a good purge.

So Bluelighters, what do you advise for me?
 
Today I received 4 12 inch cuttings of T. pachanoi in the mail and i have a couple questions. I plan on saving these beauties for a four day campout/festival which kicks off next thursday. I figure my best bet is to avoid any degradation of the mescaline is to store the whole cuttings and prepare them the day before as opposed to preparing them today and storing the juice, is this assumption correct? or will the cuttings mold if I store them for that long?(i have them in a dresser wraped up in newspaper) Lastly, has anyone actually noticed an increase in potency when consuming san perdo that has been stored in the dark?
 
If I'm not going to use them in a while, I chopped them down to small pieces eliminating the core and I freeze them. Freezing helps to liberate the active alkaloids from the plant material and its much easier to blend before cooking after it's been frozen and thawed. Works for me.
 
morninggloryseed
you are going to love it! if you do write a TR I'll look forward to reading it.

Happy trials to you friend.
 
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Can anyone tell me how to propagate Peruvian Torch cactus seeds? How much water do they need, density of soil, sowing depth, et cetera?
 
Any soil should do, i used cacti-mix and i removed those fertilizer pellets from the top of the pot ( some soils have none, try to get that if possible ).Put it in a small pot , add water then make a pinky finger tip hole and add seeds , cover lightly with soil.

Plant a few in the same pot a lil further from each other, sprinkle soil over the holes.

Cover the pot with plastic wrap , Making a green house , so don't fill all the pot with soil leave some room for the air/,myst dew to build up ( if its too deep you will have lighting problems in a later grow phase if outside. ) You want to keep that environment damp including the soil.. so don't let it dry out.

Place in a warm spot, let it breath every day or few days? change the plastic once in a while preventing mold from forming.

Ive done this with 20 seeds, it took darn months to notice 3 sprouts the size of a pin head, months later i declared them dead cause i added too much water once and it unbalanced the soil in which the cacti and roots were forming throwing the cacti baby side ways- :( . I kinda threw it away later on only to find 1 dieing berried under the dirt. If i knew better id keep the plastic on the pot for a few months, watch out when watering and lay down 100.They come out like tiny white spuds then quickly turn green.Extremely hard to handle at that size.


hope it helps , peace
 
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Your welcome Jackie,

If your interested in growing i suggest obtaining a cutting then planting or buying one from a nursery where quantity is rare though.

here a pic i took earlier Hope the link works

hope I'm allowed to post pics <3 =D
 
Like MGS up there, I too am tinkering with the idea of trying Mescaline for the first time at some point between now and the end of the year. A friend has offered me a sample of synthetic HCL.

I am thinking of taking it rectally, and I do not want to vomit if I could help it, because I have a traumatic history with vomiting and having my throat torn and bleeding internally till I was this close to dying.

This, and the fact that Mescaline is long-lasting, are now the only two things in the way, since my mood is more or less beginning to become stable. Here are my questions:

- Has anyone tried Mescaline (or cactus slime) rectally? Would taking it that way shorten the duration (which is what I wish to do)? Would you advise I dose all in one go or in increments?

- I am currently on bupropion (100mg SR). Does anyone have any experience taking mescaline on that? Or should I stop it for a few days before tripping?

- What *are* the average come-up, plateau, and comedown durations for pure mescaline? It seems that cactus lasts way longer than the isolated chemical...

Thanks!
 
okay so i got these seedlings and they have 8 little ribs the spines aren1t hard yet and were easy to handle are they peruvian torch? they were supposed to be.
 
read420 said:
if i get cuttings what must i do to prepare it so i can eat it? i Know that you need to cut away the spine and needles but what are the spines

if any1 has a working process that they like to use then please post it. i will post the method that i used once i finish it. I hope someone knows a method which will take less than 5 hours
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Spines are just the thorns. I know this is misleading because when you think of spines you think of something internal. However de spining simply means remove the thorns.
 
The HCl is stronger than the sulphate, do you know which you're getting? In any case, 500mg sounds a little on the high side, Shulgin gives maximum dosages of 400mg for the sulphate and 356mg for the hydrochloride.
 
I'll find out. For some reason I thought mescaline doses were like 500mg... so maybe 300 would be good? I'm really sensitive to stims...
 
Jamshyd said:
Like MGS up there, I too am tinkering with the idea of trying Mescaline for the first time at some point between now and the end of the year. A friend has offered me a sample of synthetic HCL.

I am thinking of taking it rectally, and I do not want to vomit if I could help it, because I have a traumatic history with vomiting and having my throat torn and bleeding internally till I was this close to dying.

This, and the fact that Mescaline is long-lasting, are now the only two things in the way, since my mood is more or less beginning to become stable. Here are my questions:

- Has anyone tried Mescaline (or cactus slime) rectally? Would taking it that way shorten the duration (which is what I wish to do)? Would you advise I dose all in one go or in increments?

- I am currently on bupropion (100mg SR). Does anyone have any experience taking mescaline on that? Or should I stop it for a few days before tripping?

- What *are* the average come-up, plateau, and comedown durations for pure mescaline? It seems that cactus lasts way longer than the isolated chemical...

Thanks!
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Sorry for the late reply hope its not TOO late.

i shouldn't think you will have a problem with nausea if its pure mescaline, only going on personal experience mind you. Extracted natural pure mesc never gives me nausea although i cant say for synthetic mesc as ive never had the luxery of coming across any :p

yeah rectal would cut down on the duration but by how much i couldn't say :\

As for dosing incremants, that depends on how much you plan on taking?

Cant answer for the bupropion, sorry.

I personally find that the durations are all about the same, plateu 8-9ish hours, back to baseline about 4 or 5 hours after the end of the plateu, the come up which is in my experience about half the time of slime/tea. (3-4 hours for tea and 1.5ish for HCL)

yay first real post =D
 
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