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The Big & Dandy Basic Mescaline/Cactus Questions Thread - Round Two!

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Between 450 - 500mg of synthetic is still in the top 3 of my tripping experiences. I've thought several times about writing a trip report. I can still play back the sequence/scenario that I got hung up on. I was imagining doing a space walk and watching atmospheric atomic bomb tests. I every time I went back through the loop I added another sensory effect or changed the dimensions of the set up. That was almost 27 years ago.
 
I don't think your going to notice much more of a difference, in the full spectrum world you'll be entering, once you take that amount.
You can only go so far through the veil; on any psychedelic.\
No matter what it depends on your state of mind at the time of dosing.
Happy Trials
 
I don't think your going to notice much more of a difference, in the full spectrum world you'll be entering, once you take that amount.
You can only go so far through the veil; on any psychedelic.\
No matter what it depends on your state of mind at the time of dosing.
Happy Trials

Amen brother <3
 
Have one hell of a time. You'll probably see a lot of objects flying around. And probably something like that big flying whale in one erowid report. Enjoy man! looking forward to your trip report!
 
I don't think it would be anything like as psychedelic as a strong LSD or mushroom trip. Even at very high doses mescaline is still the gentlest psychedelic - you may notice a slightly annoying speedy effect at higher doses tho.
 
I have used it once at 700mg (as the hcl.),it was very intense for me,altough physically, I guessed I was fine.

What nagged me is that I read one paper putting a lethal dose at 1.5g- though I don't know the credibility of that paper,which I forgot btw.
 
I have used it once at 700mg (as the hcl.),it was very intense for me,altough physically, I guessed I was fine.

What nagged me is that I read one paper putting a lethal dose at 1.5g- though I don't know the credibility of that paper,which I forgot btw.

most of the stuff i've read says that a lethal dose would be around 10 grams. i even read about one guy who mistakenly took 8 grams of the stuff (dont ask me how) and made it through the trip with out even having to go to the hospital.
 
Wow, that's ridiculous...i'll be getting some mescaline soon, and i was going to start with ~325-350mg [though psychedelics hit me harder than most people, so this will probably send me to the moon].

HAve you concisered trying high dose 2c-c as prep?
 
i took it yesterday and it was extremely disappointing. i think i might just be immune to mescaline or something. i just got this annoying body load and a really upset stomach. i've tried mescaline a number of other times and i've never really gotten any psychedelic effects. thats why i tried such a high dose this time, but it was just the same old story. the only thing that seems to get more intense as the dose goes up is the nausea. i didnt even feel intoxicated. i got some minor visuals for like 10 minutes, but they were barley even noticeable. is something wrong here or is mescaline just a really underwhelming drug??
 
Ismene said:
I don't think it would be anything like as psychedelic as a strong LSD or mushroom trip. Even at very high doses mescaline is still the gentlest psychedelic - you may notice a slightly annoying speedy effect at higher doses tho.
Meh, I have to disagree at least about it not being as psychedelic as LSD or mushrooms. It is a little gentler, but it is, in fact, one of the most classically psychedelic compounds around.

If you take a heroic dose on mescaline your reality is obliterated and you're left in a strange new land.

There was a period of time where I was heroic-dosing on mescaline weekly. I'm talking brewing massive batches of San pedro tea, huge piles of crystals extracted from the might Torch, combining it with MAOIs, etc.

Now, the residual effects began to become way too much. After a few months I began losing grip on the boundaries between myself and the rest of the world and the mescaline was talking to me in strange ways.

But those trips, man. Ego death beyond all belief. I have "arrived" in a dome-like swirling fractal vortex very similar to a DMT breakthrough. Inside an alien-like bald man with an oversized head sat in a chair facing away from me. I tried to make contact but couldn't.

When you "breakthrough" on mescaline, you see life/movement/flux/flow/energy in everything. It uproots within the self the anima, takes you to places/events/people from your childhood where everything exists as disembodied impressions within your subconscious, and yet you cannot recognize any of it.

Visually it is the most mind-blowing of any psychedelic I've taken except for perhaps some of the best tryptamines like N,N DMT. When you're "up there" in the "mescaline space" (and I know very few people who have really gotten there), the world literally looks like some kind of Grateful Dead concert (http://www.sauer-thompson.com/junkforcode/archives/GratefulDeadLS1.jpg). The colors swirl around like a tie-dye hurricane. Cartoon characters begin dancing across the wall and the ceiling comes to life. If ever there was a drug that made me feel like I was back in the "classical psychedelic" days of the 60s it is mescaline.

Audio distortions on mescaline are insane. Music becomes a soundscape world for you to interact with. Your entire physical orientation of the world is thrown so far off because you have no sense of where sounds are coming from, how far off they are, or how loud they really are. Combine the visuals with the audio, and the ego-death, and you're tripping face equally as hard as any LSD or mushroom trip could take you.

Also, the only time I've ever truly been seated with the gods is when taking a hit of freebase DMT while peaking on mescaline.
 
FINALLY I'm having a good san pedro experience!!! :)

After 3 tries and not feeling much more than mild stimulation, this time I had frozen one and a half 12" clippings and was saving it. I defrosted it and there was alot of goo that melted. I blended it and cooked it on a low boil for about 6 hours. Got about 3 liters worth of juice which took me a couple hours to drink down. All the while, I was reboiling the pulp. And I just drank the 2 glasses that produced. Lots of good visuals like the synthetic 2c's. I'm having a hard time keeping my eyes open. Not as much body euphoria as I was hoping for. It's kind of speedy. But I'm enjoying it nonetheless! :)
 
I had my first mescaline experience on Friday, about 600mg. I was blown away. I have experience 2C-I, 2C-B, and 2C-E, and I was expecting it to be somewhat similar to those, but ... no. It was totally unique. A very clean opening of the doors of perception. I don't think I've ever felt so mentally naked.

Mescaline is the perfect psychedelic drug :)
 
I had my first mescaline experience on Friday, about 600mg. I was blown away. I have experience 2C-I, 2C-B, and 2C-E, and I was expecting it to be somewhat similar to those, but ... no. It was totally unique. A very clean opening of the doors of perception. I don't think I've ever felt so mentally naked.

Mescaline is the perfect psychedelic drug :)

Agreed. Mescaline is freaking awesome
 
delphium said:
(http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=463571)

Exactly. From specimen to specimen the alkaloid content of San Pedro can vary from .2%-1.2% IIRC. And I don't know if that figure applies specifically to the green portion of the cactus flesh or the entire plant. I gave up on consuming san pedro in the form of powder or tea when it got to the point that I went into every experience EXPECTING to be disappointed. There was never any way to know where each plant/batch was going to take me. It was frustrating. And I suspect that trying to form that estimate having to also account for an SSRI would be nothing short of infuriating.

D-limonene extraction FTW.
fuck yea i feel you there man. one of the most frustrating things to deal with, that's why i always dose higher than average to ensure success.

just curious, but when you guys make the tea, do you eat the chunks afterwards. I always drink the tea, and after the peak starts to fade i eat the chunks slowly. no nausea(the boiling must help), and it keeps you at a nice stimulating/happy high for many hours to come, just with highly reduced visuals.
 
piece of peyote

what would one do with a piece of peyote button? i know its not enough and the guy said it was. im wondering if i should mix it with the san pedro cutting. it has enough for two in it and from what i here mescaline is easy on you. the problem is, id rather peyote be experienced by itself, which i know isnt a possibility.
is it possible to mix? how would one go about that and would the negative aspects (specifically nausea) be reduced?
 
If you want to experience peyote all my itself it sounds like you might end up having an incredibly mild experience with what you have, but it would be peyote by itself.

You could mix it with san pedro. You just have to figure out your dose but since mescaline is pretty easy it doen't have to be an exact science. Are the buttons dried? what's the weight of them? Have you googled what a peyote dosage should be?

One way to reduce nausea is to do an extraction. An alcohol extraction is simple and reduces nausea by a good deal. Acid/base extractions are more complex but you end up with a more refined product (mostly mescaline crystal with some other alkaloids mixed in).

The Mescaline Extraction thread is more based on san pedro and other trichocereus species but the extraction principles are the same.
 
ack! I blended 3 12" clippings of san pedro and decided that I would leave it on a low boil overnight to reduce the liquid as much as I could. Well... I fell asleep and it only took a few hours for much of the liquid to cook out leaving some of the solids to begin burning at the bottom of the pan. I quickly rehydrated what was in there and Ive started boiling it again this morning, but the concoction has got some burnt solids in it and smells kind of burnt.

Has anybody had any experience like this? Do you think that mescaline would have cooked away or been destroyed? I'm hoping that it will be strong and just taste a little nasty.
 
no uniter i havent googled. the peyote is actually a cut from a single button. my guess is the guy didnt know how to sell it or who he got it from was douching him. i actually dont mind mixing the two. the pedro is for a friend and i so its okay i think.
as for extractions, i dont feel comfortable doing any alcohol ones at the moment. i think we were going to go with a boil method and drink the nasty goo at the end. id rather not do that but again, not comfortable with the other.
 
^It shuldn't be goo. I've never used peyoted, but with pedro, boild ONLY the green layer of flesh. It's more time consuming to de-spine, and skin, but trust me, you'll never look back. Do not drink goo....
Has anybody had any experience like this? Do you think that mescaline would have cooked away or been destroyed? I'm hoping that it will be strong and just taste a little nasty.
I wouldn't doubt that some alkaloids have been destroyed, but I doubt all of them are. Only one way to find out! ;)
 
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