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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy Amanita Mushrooms Thread

Black said:
sounds like you haven't got the preperation right.

having a sitter is advisable with amanitas, as the experiences can be quite strong and some people do come into an energetic phase while tripping.
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other than eating them, what is the preperation? they are already dried out.

will a sitter be much good if they had consumed as well?

is the setting important at all???
 
OK...so I'm anxiously waiting on the arrival of some GRADE A + B EUROPEAN AMANITA MUSCARIA MUSHROOMS...

What do you guys think is the BEST way to dry them?

does it take long?

and about the whole drinking your pee to intensify the high...how does that work?

Thanks,
Waiting to trip,
Sara Toke
 
^Just wanted to point out that as amanita's cannot be cultivated, anything your buying is mushrooms someone has picked.... As to drying, air drying in a heated area, near a heater ;)

Ibotenic acid is converted to musicmol in the body; muscimol is excreted unchanged from urine. Also, ibotenic acid is quite toxic, so the piss drinkers wpuld have had a more mellow trip I'd say.
 
Out of 80+ drugs, Amanita muscaria is the most mindblowing shit I've ever done. I ate 28g Siberian caps. I was watching TV when the man on it told me some personal details about myself that seemed to prove time travel. Then not too long after that God came on and told me I was dead. At this point I could feel my molecules disintegrating into their original state and moving felt like I was pushing through thick sludge. Then God told me I had to kill my dog or I would never live again. So at this point, I was screaming at the top of my lungs trying to attack my dog (I don't think I hurt him, remember the thick sludge effect). My dad woke up and called 911. When the paramedics got there, I thought that was a hallucination and that I had to kill them to live... I was restrained by a big black man. I'm never touching this stuff again but I would just like to say I went into the trip expecting nothing less than seeing God.
 
by mellow you don't mean drowsier, do you?
cuz I heard these things can make you sleepy. is that true?

Sara_toke
 
also...I got stems too...after drying them, should i chew those bitches up too?

Sara_toke
 
^Eat them all....an by mellow, I mean sedated but your brain won't feel mellow as such, more dreamy.

BTW 28 grams is bit much....:)
 
and if i DON'T chug down on my pee?

Will I STILL feel kinda Sedated?

Toke

I't my first time preparing my own mushrooms Aaaaaaand I'm kinda scared how do i know when they're ready
 
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^Well, muscimol no matter what will have a sedatory effect; its a GABA agonist, like (but totally different) to a benzodiazepine. Many people find that they will fall into a sleep/trance/dream state on Amanita's. Ibotenic acid, which is what you don't really want to take at all (and is converted to muscimol by drying/heating) is the 'hallucinogenic' component, in that it binds to muscarine receptors and inhibits their activation. It is almost 'reverse- datura' though intriguingly has similar effects- delerium, ghosty people, though nothing in comparison.

Dry mushrooms should be brittle and easyish to snap or twist apart. You'll know when their dry, they will shrivel immensely loosing most of their weight.

If your scared, I wouldn't suggest A. muscaria to you. They can be extremely unpleasant feeling, though not to everyone. The effects are unpredicatble and, at best, euphoric and relaxing and eerie; at worst, dreadfully delerious. Defintely an entheogen for self-discovery, not fun.

Have you tripped on anything before Sara?
 
Hell yeah!

I got my hands on some high powered blotter once! and some micro dots a couple times.

Also some purple and silver shrooms in New Mexico... which I think was my FAVORITE shroom trip!

But nothing...and I mean NUTHIN' beat that blotter trip at Fibark in CO! Acidtantric Jigginess is frickin SWEET!

but i never dried them myself or heard of that fuckin toxin
that i have to get rid of...

and THINK i ingested... because it's been more than an hour and i haven't yet started to trip.

SIGH!
 
swilow said:
Ibotenic acid, which is what you don't really want to take at all (and is converted to muscimol by drying/heating) is the 'hallucinogenic' component, in that it binds to muscarine receptors and inhibits their activation. It is almost 'reverse- datura' though intriguingly has similar effects- delerium, ghosty people, though nothing in comparison.
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i may be mistaken, but isn't muscarine (which occurs only in small quantites in A. muscaria) binding to the muscarine receptors and thus making you salivate etc..?
iirc muscimol only acts on GABA-A and is responsibly for the hallucinogenic effects as opposed to the 'reverse-datura' ones.
 
It's really interesting that Amanita is sedating when most psychedelics seem to be geared more towards the stimulating end of the spectrum. Correct me if I'm wrong but the only common sedating psychedelics are: Cannabis indica, Amanita, Syrian Rue/Caapi, Harmine/Harmaline, Nutmeg, HBW/MG/Rivea, and Tropanes.

I was wondering which psychedelic you guys would vote as THE most sedating. Nutmeg was pretty damned sleepy and sluggish for me...

Surely there must be a safe way to counteract the sleepiness of psychedelics like Amanita and Syrian Rue. I'd enjoy these drugs much more if I felt more alert on them. Perhaps mild nootropics/stimulants/herbs like Piracetam, Hydergine, Rhodiola, etc. would help. I'm aware combining a strong stimulant with an MAOI like Syrian Rue would be dangerous.

Oh, by the way, anyone ever combined Amanita muscaria with Ayahuasca? I seem to recall reading somewhere that MAOI's potentiate Amanita.
 
Difference between Washington and Siberian Fly Agaric

Heya, Im new to these forums so i thought i'd post here first to share some of my experiences with Amanita Muscaria

I have consumed the mushrooms several times over the last year or so and found the experience to be anything ranging from 5 hours of hardcore puking to a distinct feeling of lacking any kind of physical body.

The most interesting (and scary!) time was with half an ounce of Grade A++ Washington state fly agaric, despite puking half way through eating the powered mushrooms, less than half an hour after finishing consuming them I felt like I was walking on air. This feeling quickly accelerated into what can only be described as delirious raving. I had the most amazing amounts of energy (I don't know if its true or not about the Viking beserkers but I reckon I could've wielded a pretty big axe. Instead I just jumped over a sofa a couple of times lol); massive amounts of sweating and excess salivation were accompanied by the most insane body buzz I've ever experienced. Another quick purge later (felt so incredible!) and I was on the sofa trying to measure my heartbeat (at least 140 bpm!)

This tale contradicts all the very sedate and dreamy trips I've had with siberian grade A fly agaric (at the same 1/2 ounce dose) from the same source.

So if you are planning on taking Amanita Muscaria be sure to know which side of the pond they're from because my experiences have been very, very different. (Also a bucket is essential)

P.S The day after the washington mushrooms my friend who took the same dose (although managed to keep all his down until alot later in the night) had very swollen glands in his neck.
 
advice for the n00bie? :)

Hey Bluelighters, I just recently got some washington state A+ amanitas, and I need some advice before I do them. I'm planning on taking them with a very close friend of mine and in a very low dose at first (make a tea with one small/medium cap and then split it) could this work? from what I've read, talking isn't something you really want to do on the amanitas, is this true? What about two people doing it at the same time, what can/can't you talk about? Last question :) What should I do if things go wrong? Benzos don't look good, so what do I do?

Thanks for ANY help...or even reading this! =D
 
^A few questions there :) I've had brief encounters with amanita's- no, talking doesn't seem all that desireable. But you can talk about anything ;) If things go wrong- well, a low dose negates a lot of that possibility, but if you feel as if you have been poisoned (ie. excessive cholinergic/muscarinic effects- salivation, sweating) you can go to hopsital, atropine is the antidote to muscaria poisoning/intoxication. If I was worried, thats what I would do, or take another anticholinergic. All that said, amanita's are not worth it IMO, and generally lead to a rather dysphoric state. Take MUCH care....
 
If one's Amanita come from the vendor already dried is there no need to heat the mushrooms to convert the toxic Ibotenic Acid to Muscimol?
 
As long as it was dried at a heat of 170 degrees C then you'll be ok. I've heard before that this is the heat that Ibotenic Acid turns into Muscimol.
 
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