The Big & Dandy AL-LAD Thread - Part 2

[Si Dread]

I did hammer the bk-2c-b, I think 2-3g of it over 6 weeks, had a gram of mushrooms too, and a little 5-meo-dalt, tripping multiple times a week for 6 weeks & my last trip on bk-2c-b ended after a few hours when it should last 12+, probably that. I had over a week off any psychedelics except weed (cut down on that too), think it was a week last Monday my last go. I have experienced similar false starts with other drugs in the past, so I'm not against trying it again at some better time.

The physical effects did feel pretty strong for one tab & seemed consistent with taking a really good tab of LSD, just shorter lasting & no 'trip', resting pulse went up to 160 at the start, came back down again, if I'd had 2 it would've been more unpleasant, so I'll try less next time, I don't think it was not taking enough & there was clearly some drug on the tab. I'm pretty light, I think one should be enough for me with no tolerance. Felt more like cross tolerance than some kind of allergy, the physical effects were consistent with my past LSD trips, just no euphoria or psychedelic effects.

That sounds like pretty much exactly what happens to me if I've been tripping too often. Basically, the less comfortable aspects of tripping are more over-powering than the pleasant aspects of tripping. Not only do I trip less hard, but I feel an increased sense of body-load & physicality. Given your regime with the bk-2c-b & 5-meo-dalt, there's no way a week is a long enough break. Even when you reset your tolerance you may still find a single tab underwhelming. Keep another half at hand, you might be surprised how much it will increase the trip. I've not had two tabs at one go yet, so I'm wary about recomending that dose, but plenty people do higher doses & get on fine with it. 1.5 tabs is definitely quite a bit more visual than a single tab!

 

[Doldrugs]

Don't trip multiple times a week.

 

[DrGreenthumb]

I do know not to trip multiple times a week, but It worked fine on BK-2C-B for a while - it was 'medicinal' & it's been over a week since, I thought I'd left it long enough, but clearly not. I'm not going to try this again for months, it needs a fair chance & it's magic mushroom season, I just wasted a tab last night. There's no real need for me to trip now anyway, done it so much over the last couple of months, I'm not sure I have anything left to trip about, just wanted to get some tabs & try one before it gets banned.

I did get a similar kind of feeling in the second half of my last bk-2c-b trip, I was tripping well, then it just ended after about 4 hours & I only felt the (different) body effects, which seemed increased. Maybe still need to restock my serotonin or something.

 

[Dawglaw]

Greenthumb and Trozzle - my effects were similar to yours and it appears we took tabs from the same source/batch.

I just went along for the ride as I am brand new to lysergamides and didn't know what to expect. I enjoy experimenting with drugs so that is why I said it was a good time. Like I said, I just felt like I was REALLY stoned - in a haze mentally but I could function when I put my mind to it. I had mild/moderate euphoria. Some mild body load - similar to a very low dose of moxy. No anxiety. No visuals - although I did enjoy staring at objects.

Do you think it is odd that all three of us are reporting somewhat similar experiences (that differ from the rest of the reports) after taking (presumably) the same tabs from the same batch?

 

[DrGreenthumb]

I don't know, I would've suspected it more if you didn't say you had a great time & if trozzle's pal didn't enjoy them either. The black colour, difficulty getting it into solution & higher MP sounds fishy too, like maybe it's a bad synth. It's likely just my tolerance though, sometimes good drugs don't work, I'm more likely to blame myself, I did have a fairly similar experience on my last BK-2C-B trip a little over a week ago & I know that was good stuff. I'm only trying half a tab next time after a long break & if I don't feel slightly good after that I'm not bothering with it any more.

I read trozzle's post just as I was about to come up too, so could even be just suggestion. Set & setting are important & they were all wrong probably, but I'm suspicious about the quality of these tabs, suspicious enough to get one tested properly.

Has anybody else sampled this new grey batch?

I will send one to WEDINOS for testing before risking my health on it again, only way to be sure what we're taking. They're in the UK too, so if I post tomorrow it should get there early next week & we should know the results the week after. Hopefully it is good stuff & it was just my fault for doing it wrong, doing far too much psychedelic stuff before, I thought I'd given myself just enough time to recover, but possibly not, I did totally burn out on bk-2c-b, 5-meo-dalt & mushrooms over a few weeks. It'll be worth losing another tab to put my mind at rest, a real lab is the only place that can tell us what's on these tabs. If the test comes back bad then I'll see what the vendor says.

No visuals, not even closed eyes, was feeling more euphoric & psychedelic before I took it, just off one joint. I just got a "fucked up feeling" mentally, bad short term memory, fast irregular heartbeat, dilated pupils, paleness, clumsiness, jitters, tension, sweats & uncomfortable physical stimulation, I looked like I was fucked on acid & my body felt like it was, my head just wasn't though. Still not feeling great & can't even smoke a joint, e-cig or drink caffeine without making it feel worse, I'm sure it'll pass, hopefully by tomorrow, but I got a comedown from a trip I didn't even have, awesome. Closest feeling I can compare it to is an extra long lasting & uncomfortable caffeine overdose, but it wasn't that.

I definitely need a break from psychedelics for a while, at least a month or 6 weeks, but probably a good few months. I'll send that tab off tomorrow & post the results.

 

[Jacklemore1]

I recommend two blotters for an immense trip. One blotter is rubbish, just a lot of grinning.

 

[Yeetbeat]

If anyone wants to send me 2 blotters, I'm more than happy to give it another trial haha...but as far as going out of my way to make another order, not THAT keen to risk feeling like trash for a few hours again

 

[cybergollum]

had a rethink how about mixing one tab of this with some BK-2C-B ? safe ?

Can't say about mixing with BK-2C-B but I've tried AL-LAD with 2C-E and it was very interesting and fun experience (despite of having some body load). I've got strong OEVs and interesting effect of sound distortion(?) - I heard every overtone from clock ticking and I had a feel that sound is echoing inside my brain, and there were another feel like I am falling between those echoing overtones. Another interesting effect (by "interesting" I mean such an experience I never or very rarely had before) was extremely enhanced memory - I could raise in front of my inner vision any (or most of) scenes from previous day and play it like videotape for few microseconds then rewind if I need so, and I could see every detail from these scenes, I could split and examine (finally remembered most accurate word) every little piece from blocks of information I received from my sense organs.

Dosages were one 150ug blotter (one of three blotters I've ordered in Aug'13) and ~20mg (+/-5 mg) of 2c-e.
Fact, blotters didn't degrade at all (or degrade indistinguishably low - I think I can say they became even stronger :D). If anyone's wondering, I store them nether in foil nor in fridge but just in the purse inside 5cmx5cm plastic bag.

Note: my usual high-enough dose of 2c-e is ~20mg and I used it a lot of times, so I think I didn't step much out of "responsible" area.

 

[Si Dread]

The black colour, difficulty getting it into solution & higher MP sounds fishy too, like maybe it's a bad synth.

Pretty unlikely but it can't help to send one in & see what's what.

No visuals, not even closed eyes, was feeling more euphoric & psychedelic before I took it, just off one joint. I just got a "fucked up feeling" mentally, bad short term memory, fast irregular heartbeat, dilated pupils, paleness, clumsiness, jitters, tension, sweats & uncomfortable physical stimulation, I looked like I was fucked on acid & my body felt like it was, my head just wasn't though. Still not feeling great & can't even smoke a joint, e-cig or drink caffeine without making it feel worse, I'm sure it'll pass, hopefully by tomorrow, but I got a comedown from a trip I didn't even have, awesome. Closest feeling I can compare it to is an extra long lasting & uncomfortable caffeine overdose, but it wasn't that.

This feeling has lingered for a day or two, post-trip? Are you sure you haven't got some bug or something coincidental? Unless I lose alot of sleep I have noticed nothing but a return to base-line, after Al-Lad. No hangover, no comedown.

 

[DrGreenthumb]

It just lingered for the whole day, like an LSD comedown, it was 2am when I took it, got to sleep about 8 or 9am, felt 100% recovered 24hours after taking it. I'm totally fine now, no bugs, it wasn't that bad, not even as bad as a light head cold, just disappointing, I got a comedown with no trip first. Clearly there's some LSD related drug on it & it's probably just down to me that I missed getting any euphoria or 'trip', but it can't hurt to get one tested, especially as a few other people seem to have had similar experiences off this new batch. It'll settle my anxiety about trying it again at least. Testing is free, it'll just cost me a blotter (that I don't want to take atm) & a stamp, it'll be worth it. Been in bed all day today though, so mañana.

It could've been anxiety over taking a new RC, cross tolerance from other psyches, I don't know, but a lab can rule out that they're bad blotters.

 

[Xorkoth]

Al-LAD itself is LSD related.

 

[Si Dread]

It just lingered for the whole day, like an LSD comedown, it was 2am when I took it. I'm totally fine now, no bugs, it wasn't that bad, not even as bad as a light cold, just disappointing, I just got a comedown with no trip first. Clearly there's some LSD related drug on it & it's probably just down to me that I missed getting any euphoria or 'trip', but it can't hurt to get one tested, especially as a few other people seem to have had similar experiences off this new batch. It'll settle my anxiety about trying it again at least.

I remember these sorts of comments & experiences from the first batch, actually. They're not that common, but they do happen. You wouldn't be the first to fail to enjoy Al-Lad.

 

[DrGreenthumb]

Al-LAD itself is LSD related.

Yeah, I know, the physical effects were fairly expected, but I also expected some kind of euphoria, it wasn't much fun. LSD was always very euphoric for me when I tried it.

 

[perpetualdawn]

I've tried AL-LAD with 2C-E and it was very interesting and fun experience

Thanks for letting us know about this cybergollum. I would love to read more about your experience, or a full TR about this if you're up for it, as it's a combo I'm very much interested in, and one that seems fairly unexplored.

 

[transitionsynth]

I remember these sorts of comments & experiences from the first batch, actually. They're not that common, but they do happen. You wouldn't be the first to fail to enjoy Al-Lad.

Yeah, not sure why people are getting all worried about it. On the old batch I took one tab (with no tolerance whatsoever) and didn't trip at all. The report is somewhere in this thread. http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...ead-Part-2?p=12475697&viewfull=1#post12475697

There's been quite a variance in reported effects for a while now. Everyone keep calm and take long breaks, you'll be fine.

 

[Si Dread]

Keep Calm But Don't Carry On?

I like a light trip, it's only rarely that I go in for a deep one, & even I will go for a tab & a half of Al quite happilly. Generally, 150ug is a pretty controllable hit, nothing heavy. On the odd occassion I have had a bit a big hit from a single tab, but generally, I can take more. I thought right from the off that the tabs shuld have been dosed at 200ug. That woulda made the maths a little easier too, you start cutting 150ug tabs in quarters, & keep up with the maths tripping lol

 

[DrGreenthumb]

I probably just need a break, serotonin depletion or whatever from my recent bk-2c-b binge, but it never hurts to test what you're taking. I'm pretty sure the test will be good & next time will be better.

 

[Dawglaw]

I am going to try again on Halloween. I am going to a HUGE rave and I am going to take 150mg of mdma and 150ug of Al-Lad plus a little booze and weed mixed in throughout.

Hopefully the MDMA brings a little more out of the 150ug of Al-Lad.

 

[perpetualdawn]

150mg mdma sounds like too much for combo with al-lad, I'd go 70-100mg max if the mdma is any good.

 

[Dawglaw]

Really? Yah the MDMA is absolute fire. I'm a big guy and have a bit of tolerance; I normally take anywhere between 170-200mg when I am using it by itself.

150ug of al-lad was completely manageable. I was in public/being social and people had no idea I was tripping.

I have never candy flipped before tho. I'll proceed with caution and under dose my MDMA. Ill bring a 75mg booster in case I need some more.