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The Big & Dandy AL-LAD Thread - Part 2

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Only really noticed it when I've taken quite high doses - particularly the odd times I've done 300. Got a little warm then.
 
Well, I conducted my little LSZ+AL-LAD experiment.

This morning at about 9:00 am, my friend M and I each took 150ug LSZ and 150ug AL-LAD simultaneously. It was taken on an empty stomach. The onset time was unusually fast. Both of these chemicals have always taken at least two full hours and generally have what I would call a very gentle come up. But the combo hit quite rapidly with peak effects reached within an hour and a half.

What surprised me was how unpleasant the come up was. I've never experienced negative effects from either chemical on their own. But the come up today was full of anxiety, dysphoria, and uncomfortable bodily sensations including mild nausea. There was also a strange mental fog, similar to the head space I usually experience with AL-LAD, but of an uncomfortable intensity.

This all resolved quite well after the onset was over and we were well into the peak. No more negative physical sensations were present, in fact I would say that I felt incredibly physically comfortable, bordering on euphoric, though with a bit of energy that left me generally wanting to be on my feet. The mental aspect became quite comfortable, the previously mentioned fog cleared completely and communication was comfortable and easy.

I could definitely tell that each chemical was present and "doing its thing" but the two complemented eachother nicely.

Duration was somewhere in the range of 8 or 9 hours, appetite returned near the end as usual.

All in all, I enjoyed it quite a bit. I might actually prefer it to either chemical on their own. But I'm not sure if I really want to put myself through that come up again. My friend M found the onset to be just as unpleasant as I did. It was a great and worthwhile experience, but if you choose to try it, just brace yourself for a rough beginning.
 
If I would try this combo, I`d dose lower on the LSZ. Something like 150ug AL-LAD + 75ug or less of LSZ. Maybe someday I will try...
 
I dosed these two together, ages ago, without reporting it. I used 50ug Al-Lad, topped up a little later with a 75ug dose LSz. I think. Either way I planned to extend the Al-Lad hit with LSz & I succeeded in my aim. I enjoyed the experience :)
 
Dawglaw said:
How does it combine w MDMA? Im thinking of mixing ~100ug AL-LAD with 130mg of MDMA.
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60mg of MDMA combined with 225ug AL-LAD induced a very strong experience I wouldn't recommend to an unexperienced user without supervision.
This has great therapeutic potential though.
 
I mixed just 70mg of MDMA with 50mg of MXE and I felt the MDMA stronger than I have in 10 years, it was a magical, beautiful trip/roll. I am starting to think less is more with MDMA, provided you have good, pure MDMA.
 
Storage Question: How long do you think I can store the blotters in the vendor supplied air/light tight plastic foil envelope?

I was going to drop this weekend but my tripmate had some sudden personal stuff creep into her life so we are going to wait until she gets her stuff resolved. Don't want to open pandora's box.
 
oliveoyl said:
like trozzle, i have had the unfortunate encounter, in getting inactive AL LAD, and LSZ blotters
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Can you elaborate at all? I assume you gave them a whirl, at what dosage? And what effect did you get (if any)? Both desired and negative.

I see you're from Aus as well - if you don't mind, PM me with any further details (your *rough* location, and a vague description of where you got them - obviously don't actually tell me your source lol)

I don't mean this to sound bad, coz it sucks ass man, but this situation interests me.


EDIT: just realise that was your first post, and therefore can't PM me. Comment here if you don't mind, just "Sydney, online" or something will do :)
 
They just arrived yesterday. They cannot already be bad. I was thinking I could hold on to them for a few weeks at least. They are still stored in the original packaging sent directly from the vendor.
 
Hrrmmm... I have some of the original WoW style from before the AL-LAD printed perf style and i ate some about 1 month ago. 2.5 of them was a nice time. If they have degraded, it hasnt been much. I have had them store 90 percent of the time between 68-75 degrees in a dark desk drawer in a plastic bag that isnt vac sealed.
 
Dawglaw said:
They just arrived yesterday. They cannot already be bad. I was thinking I could hold on to them for a few weeks at least. They are still stored in the original packaging sent directly from the vendor.
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I was joking. They may well last 85 years at -20 deg C. They should be good for months or years at room temperature.
 
what's this obsession with freezers? the chemical is stable in the dark when dry. with that combination you have many choices that are much safer and less public than a freezer.
 
pupnik said:
what's this obsession with freezers? the chemical is stable in the dark when dry. with that combination you have many choices that are much safer and less public than a freezer.
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Well it's a sliding scale - colder equals less degradation, all the way to absolute zero. I agree that there's not much evidence for the practical need, but it doesn't seem to be much of a hassle to most people.
 
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