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The Big & Dandy AL-LAD Thread - Part 2

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Jonneh said:
Well it's a sliding scale - colder equals less degradation, all the way to absolute zero.
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I'm not sure how blotter paper lasts at standard freezer temp tho - I know when I've left things in the freezer the packaging is often seriously affected.
 
^ can you elaborate on how the packaging was seriously affected? I've got some blotter stashed sealed in the freezer, got dessicant (rice actually) along with it. Would hate to ruin it.
 
When I had blotter in the freezer in a glass jar wrapped in tin foil for years it started to curl up at the edges - I assumed that was the moisture getting to it.

And it's just if you put a ready-made meal in a cardboard box into the freezer - after 6 months you can tell a difference in the cardboard around it. I think moisture does get to them unless your freezer is permanently 20 below.
 
These are issues with sealing though. If you vacuum pack your tabs or seal a baggie with a hot knife, nothing'll get in there.
 
A glass jar is not air-tight. Thats why on supermarket jars it has a vaccum seal, & it "pops" when you open it for the first time. That's why it says, "if seal is broken, do not use", because air has gotten in & may have contaminated the contents. Even if a glass jar was air-tight, it would still have an awful lot of air floating about in it, air that's full of damp, because it's freezer air. All that air needs to be displaced with rice or other dessicant, & the top of the jar sealed tight with masking tape. A smaller container would be more ideal, like a min-breakfast-jam jar, or mint tin, or tobacco tin.
 
Hi, yes i was dosing around 2-3 tabs, no effects from both the AL LAD and LSZ i got from a uk based vendor, and trozzel, i am located about 2-3 hours from sydney
it dose suck, will be trying agian though, maybe with different vendor.
 
Si Ingwe said:
A glass jar is not air-tight. Thats why on supermarket jars it has a vaccum seal, & it "pops" when you open it for the first time. That's why it says, "if seal is broken, do not use", because air has gotten in & may have contaminated the contents. Even if a glass jar was air-tight, it would still have an awful lot of air floating about in it, air that's full of damp, because it's freezer air. All that air needs to be displaced with rice or other dessicant, & the top of the jar sealed tight with masking tape. A smaller container would be more ideal, like a min-breakfast-jam jar, or mint tin, or tobacco tin.
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(I'm not saying you're wrong :P) I was under the impression that the vacuum seal and subsequent "pop" was for the consumer to know whether it's been tampered with/opened already - it's still just as airtight after the vacuum has been broken (ie air will still not pass in/out of the jar), but you now know it's been opened since it was sealed.

Similar idea to the annoying plastic ring on soda bottles that breaks away when you open it for the first time. It does nothing to assist with sealing the container, but it shows whether it's been opened already, even if the contents don't appear to be different.
 
trozzle said:
(I'm not saying you're wrong :P) I was under the impression that the vacuum seal and subsequent "pop" was for the consumer to know whether it's been tampered with/opened already - it's still just as airtight after the vacuum has been broken (ie air will still not pass in/out of the jar), but you now know it's been opened since it was sealed.
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The vacuum pressure might "pull" the lid down, creating a better seal IDK. I use mason jars with sealer lids to store drugs, they seem more reliable anyways.
 
perpetualdawn said:
The vacuum pressure might "pull" the lid down, creating a better seal IDK. I use mason jars with sealer lids to store drugs, they seem more reliable anyways.
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I'm sure at the end of the day, the difference is negligible anyways :)
 
Si Ingwe said:
A glass jar is not air-tight. Thats why on supermarket jars it has a vaccum seal, & it "pops" when you open it for the first time. That's why it says, "if seal is broken, do not use", because air has gotten in & may have contaminated the contents. Even if a glass jar was air-tight, it would still have an awful lot of air floating about in it, air that's full of damp, because it's freezer air. All that air needs to be displaced with rice or other dessicant, & the top of the jar sealed tight with masking tape. A smaller container would be more ideal, like a min-breakfast-jam jar, or mint tin, or tobacco tin.
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why are we going here?
the vacuum lids or mason jar configuration is for canning,
get this
you boil the jars and lids so they are sterile
then you cook the food and put the cooked food into the jars while they are still in the hot water canning pot.
then you screw on the sterile lids loosely and let the sealed system cool

the sealed jars can be more tightly screwed after they cool because the hot air escaped and the cooling contraction of the vapors condensing in the jars make the seal tight and suck down the flexible lids.

later when the jar is opened the lids pop, and you can tell that the system has not previously been opened since the sterile canning session.

none of this is suitable for storing lsd or other lysergamides.
 
I live in tropical Queensland .
My mailbox is not shaded and in the sun all day .
My tabs were delivered mid morning and were in the mail box until mid afternoon , when I got home .
They worked just fine ...

I have had them stored in a freezer with " Damp Rid " [ calcium chloride , I think it is , ] , in an air tight sandwich box , for about a year . [ AL + Z ]
They still work fine , just like when delivered .

I suspect that there must be a problem with the laying of some blotters , if they are inactive or weak as stated in above posts .
Clearly there has been a problem or error with the laying because of the frequency of such posts on BL and elsewhere ....

Perhaps the person laying was affected by the acids ???
 
pupnik said:
why are we going here?
the vacuum lids or mason jar configuration is for canning,
get this
you boil the jars and lids so they are sterile
then you cook the food and put the cooked food into the jars while they are still in the hot water canning pot.
then you screw on the sterile lids loosely and let the sealed system cool

the sealed jars can be more tightly screwed after they cool because the hot air escaped and the cooling contraction of the vapors condensing in the jars make the seal tight and suck down the flexible lids.

later when the jar is opened the lids pop, and you can tell that the system has not previously been opened since the sterile canning session.

none of this is suitable for storing lsd or other lysergamides.
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What? Are you saying I shouldn't have pressure cooked my al-lad to seal it in properly :)
 
So my mate grabbed the remaining AL-LAD blotters I had of me last weekend. 1 tab blew him away. He loved the stuff.

Guess I am broken and allergic to this stuff hahaha....At least now I know I guess
 
^ ^ My brother was initially a " hard head " [ LSD ] , for his first couple of drops , - never quite getting off , while others would be tripping balls from the same tabs .
One day it just happened for him , and has done so ever since .

[ I have read that in the early days when LSD was being used in psychiatric therapy , some folk - esp alcoholics - initially needed high doses to " break through " , because they were somehow resisting . After , their doses were able to be lowered to more normal levels . Btw , this therapy had very high success rates - way higher than any therapies employed nowadays . Also LSD and pscilocybin had astonishing success rates in helping to prevent habitual criminals from returning to prison after release . There were many , many such reports published during the 1950s and 1960s , for a variety of psychiatric ailments . Many therapists of the period considered them to be miraculous wonder drugs . Such a shame such a wonder chemical was abused to extent it was in the 60s , and banned . ]
 
Also LSD and pscilocybin had astonishing success rates in helping to prevent habitual criminals from returning to prison after release .

Tim Leary cooked the books on the figures for that - in reality I don't think it had any effect.

But I agree they could be wonderful tools.
 
Thank you Ismene - I did'nt know that Leary bullshitted , but not surprised .

Leary , I believe , was a real pest to the authorities of the day - who with his [ alleged ] massive ego enjoyed causing trouble and creating problems .
I have read that Leary more than anyone else , including Kesey and his acid tests , was the one most responsible for the eventual banning of LSD . Bastard .
 
I do still like Tim but he what he did wasn't all positive. His autobiography Flashbacks is still worth a look. He was a pretty troubled and old guy by the time he got into psychedelics - he was about 40 when his wife killed herself and left a note blaming him and a short while after that he took mushrooms for the first time.

I found out about him altering the results of the prisoner study in the recent biography of him by Robert Greenfield.

Must admit - psilocybin cured my depression and greif when I was going through a troubled time tho - nothing else could've helped like mushrooms. Luckily my intro to mushrooms came around the time they were legalised fresh in the UK so I could eat as many as I wanted! :D
 
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