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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

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Works fine on foil as mentioned. Also works in a pipe but not as well. You have much more control over temperature using tinfoil - direct flame is not so great. Vaping MDxx or indeed 6-APB is fairly shit as an ROA but it does work and occasionally has some use (topping up from slightly underdosing or to keep the buzz going a bit longer without wanting to extend it by several hours, for example).

Interesting. I must have held the flame over it for too long while I was pulling it through then. Either that or I was too stoned to notice any extra buzz, because it certainly hit the spot when I bombed some a few hours later. :D
 
As long as he's a tad less sloppy on some of the details as he has been with his previous videos ;)

Agreed. I've got more faith in this forum than anything that comes from academia, 'cos Bluelighters are talking from experience and he is talking from a speculative stance. Still, the more perspectives the better as far as I'm concerned.
 
As long as he's a tad less sloppy on some of the details as he has been with his previous videos ;)

By the way, MeDieViL, Professor Dave seems to agree with you regarding cardiotoxicity not likely to be a problem at recreational doses and frequency for MD** type compounds. :) From his YouTube channel:

"tru7hhimself
2 weeks ago
good video that explains it well to anyone not capable of reading the original papers .
i'd still like to add a point: mdma is a (more of less) potent agonist at 5-HT2B, but doesn't cause widespread cardiac valve fibrosis like fenflouramine, because it's used occasionally as opposed to daily which was the case with prescribed fenf.
so i'd expect daily mdai use to be problematic (because of probable 5-HT2B agonism and 5-HT release), but recreational use ok. of course further research is required. #

@tru7hhimself This is a fair comment. Interestingly, a paper in International Journal of Obesity (1999, 23, 926-928) indicated that the risk of cardiotoxicity of fenfluramine was dose dependent. Patients who take >60 mg/day were at higher risk than those taking <40 mg/day. Of course MDAI and fenfluramine are completely different drugs - but the typical dose of MDAI is significantly higher at 100-200 mg. The cardiotoxicity risk would then depend on how regular the recreational use is.
ProfessorDaveatYork 2 weeks ago"
 
i'm being sent a powder sample of this and i'm keen to get it tested by a proper lab.....ideally somewhere in or near Nottingham. can anyone recommend a lab for this please?

or is there a different thread for pharmaceutical analysis?
 
i'm being sent a powder sample of this and i'm keen to get it tested by a proper lab.....ideally somewhere in or near Nottingham. can anyone recommend a lab for this please?

or is there a different thread for pharmaceutical analysis?

Universities should have the correct equipment.
I know a couple of post grads who would be able to (slyly) book some time on my unis mass spectrometer. If you have any friends doing chemistry degrees or similar you could ask them. Other than that i wouldn't know of any companies or places you could pay to get it done, although I would also be interested to find out if anyone else knows.
 
Was this chemical crystaline or powder?

Not received this sample yet. I've tried 6-apb from one of the main 5 guys so will know the difference but this sample is coming via a vendor who's not dealing with them or the main lab so want to ensure it is what it is.

What tests would be best to confirm quality and product??
 
Well, I finally mannaged to try my sample Thursday. The first thing I will say is that it wasnt as good as I'd expected. Dont get me wrong, this stuff is strong, very strong.

I'd recieved what was labled as 'roughly 100mg' from one of the main suppliers. I took their word for it and stuck the whole lot in a solution and necked it. It's worth noting that I'de consumed 4 or 5 cans of 4% lager by this stage and was a little tipsy.

Got slight 'tingles' after maybe 20 mins with the full comeup kicking in at around 40-50 mins. I found the comeup very overwhelming, it reminded me of coming up on very strong MDMA pills years ago. Very rushy with lots of physical sensation. I got quite a strong urge to throw up which was hard to control, in fact I did bring a little up a couple of times and this feeling lasted around 30 mins. As the come up progressed the eye wiggles started (vibrating visual field) and intensified. Interestingly this is the only visuals I experienced throughout the whole trip, I didnt find this substance psychedelic at all.

The intense comeup probably lasted a good half hour maybe closer an hour before settling into a peak that lasted a good 3 hours. Once I hit the peak I didnt really have any great feelings of empathy or much euphoria. Also didnt want to do much other than chill whilst feeling very fucked.

It was like MDMA but missing the fun. My jaw rattled like it had never rattled before, even more than when on MDMA I think. This was some extreme jaw rattling!!8(. The jaw rattling also persisted the entire length of the trip and beyond. I also wasnt overly chatty which is unusual for me on these kind of drugs.

There wasnt any kind of crash to speak of, the buzz just faded slowly in strength to the point where I was more than able to function for a good hours worth of sex followed by 6 hours of uninterupted sleep.

My conclusion is that this stuff is strong. Fair enough I didnt weigh my sample so it could have been closer 120mg maybe. Still judging by how overwhelming I found the comeup Im thinking that 100mg is going to be too strong for some. To put this into context Im 6ft 2inches, I weigh around 14 stone and I've consumed copious amounts of pills and powders over the last 10 years, still I found this '100mg' sample too much. I can see why it's being pelleted.

I very was dissapointed in the lack of empathy and social stimulation I recieved from this compound, at points I really couldnt be arsed to speak at all. IMO I found this a lot less fun than mephedrone, and if mephedrone was still available I would rather pay £10 for a gram of that than for 100mg of this.

I think though, before I completely make my mind up on 6-apb I need to try it again. Im thinking that the totally overwhelming comeup killed it for me and maybe it would have been more fun with a little less.
 
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