The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

[Shambles]

8.6mg of 6-APB? Really? I can't imagine anyone would be able to feel that. I doubt I'd feel 50mg either, to be honest. 100mg is nice but still kinda on the low side for my taste - 150-200mg would be my sweet spot. I do think 100mg is a slightly awkward number to work with as it's gonna be just a bit too high for some and just a bit too low for others. Would have though 50-75mg would have been a better choice so it was easier to go low or high to suit. Then again, I presume it will be okay to split the 100mg pellets in two, or crush them to get finer control over your required dose.

 

[instink]

Being realistic though, there's a good chance that the "pellets" will actually be pressed at less than 100mg but still advertised as 100, I mean these aren't the most honest kind of people we're dealing with here And there won't be an easy way to prove if they are in fact less...

 

[DIDI]

Why assume they are all dishonest. ??? May we all get what we expect

 

[TheAzo]

The guys making the pellets are super sleazy.
Powder will be available from a more respectable vendor copycatting the UK ones though, ironically, because of all the delays, it looks like it will be shipping before the pellets!

Shambles, is your figures on the doses with one of the early samples, or the most recent batch? Most recent batch was apparently much more potent than the last one (in other words, the lab preparing it did a piss poor job on the first sample batches, and didn't bother to clean it up)

And, as i've said many times before, i'm more sensitive than most to stimulants (and, it seems, empathogens).
I was quite altered by the 8.6mg (was insufflated though, not oral), and having never been at an empathogenic level before, i didn't quite realize how much it altered my judgement until i saw what i'd said to people online.

 

[Xorkoth]

Most people seem to be reporting that insufflated doses don't work nearly as well as oral doses.

 

[etage]

I have received a sealed foil sachet today in the post with the label reading Benzo Fury 6-APB / 6-(2-aminopropyl)-2, 3-dihydrobenzofuran. I have supposedly 2 grams of it, also states its a white crystalline powder. I havnt yet opened it but from what that says anyone who has had any before think its legit? Slightly causcious after being sent such a large amount of something there suposedly isn't much of atm. Any help would be appreciated

6-(2-aminopropyl)-2, 3-dihydrobenzofuran is 6-APDB. I'd be very sceptical if the vendor is putting contradictory names/formulas on the label.

 

[rafterman]

I split a 100mg sample with a mate @ Glastonbury. It was nowhere near enough of a dose for either of us but we both recognised that it was potentially going to be very interesting at higher doses. No visual stimulation for either of us, music appreciation was heightened, both became very chatty at t+1.30hrs.
At t+3hrs we both also took 2 pills which were more or less definitely pips, at which point a lot of good stimulation kicked in (just as the The Orb played, perfect timing). This made the experience more like weak mdma, but very enjoyable. The pills were ones which we both had used before and after with no bad effects (I tolerate pips very well, no comedown or usual shittiness associated with them).
However, at t+4hrs I then started to experience a persistent kidney/stomach pain which pretty much killed my night off, and made me want to sleep. I had to take 2 x 500mg of paracetamol to fight the pain, which seemed ineffective. My mate had no ill effects at all, and remained on a higher plateau than I all night (despite being 2 stone heavier).
No stomach pain or comedown the next day, and nothing the days after. In fact felt pretty good.
To summarize, 50mg was way too low a dose for us both - 12st/14st males, long history of various substances, both fit and healthy. We had neither of us caned anything else the day we took it, and were on normally filled stomachs (ate lightly about 2 hours prior). I would like to try it at 100mg as I could clearly tell that the 'handshake' I got off 50mg suggested very interesting potentialities, but I would be apprehensive that it would recreate the stomach pain, which was pretty unpleasant.

 

[TheAzo]

6-(2-aminopropyl)-2, 3-dihydrobenzofuran is 6-APDB. I'd be very sceptical if the vendor is putting contradictory names/formulas on the label.

Probably vendor incompetence.

If it's a UK vendor, the supplier's first round of samples was 6-APDB, then they got nervous about it's legal status, and switched to 6-APB. If the vendor wasn't on the ball, they could have missed that, and not realized the chemical name they were using was the old one.

 

[etage]

Probably vendor incompetence.

If it's a UK vendor, the supplier's first round of samples was 6-APDB, then they got nervous about it's legal status, and switched to 6-APB. If the vendor wasn't on the ball, they could have missed that, and not realized the chemical name they were using was the old one.

As far as I know, the first round of samples was also 6-APB, someone got it tested. I'd also be sceptical about vendors who don't seem to have a clue about what they're selling.

 

[Vurtual]

I do think 100mg is a slightly awkward number to work with as it's gonna be just a bit too high for some and just a bit too low for others. Would have though 50-75mg would have been a better choice so it was easier to go low or high to suit.

I definitely felt 50mg as a hit (I'm fairly sensitive to substances though being about 8 stone) - and would have been very pleased if i'd had that effect from any pill i'd bought in the last couple of years (considering they're usually pips which i need at least 2 of).

After also doing 65 and then 100, i'd say 100 is about right for a pellet - with that, a half-pellet is still an appreciable dose for beginners (i'm thinking in reference to old pills, which still worked well in halves) - with 75mg or less, the half-pellet may be a bit pointless. People new to these types of thing should probably just start with a half anyway.

As for Shakermakers comments: I'd be suprised if there wasn't a wide variation in reported effects - this is the same with mdma really. It's probably more to do with whether people are basically optimists or pessimists - optimists (like me) look for and find all the things in the experience that reminds them of all the old pills; pessimists, find the differences (although maybe less pessimistically while they're high). This is probably the same for reported comedown effects... /as an optimist, take anything i say with a pinch of salt

 

[Azot]

What about sex on 6-APB...?

 

[MeDieViL]

Yeah, it seems that 100mg is way the hell too high of a dose. I enjoyed 8.6mg far more than I expected. It sounds like the proper dose for a full on strong roll is around 50mg, not 100mg.

Wierd, i didnt feel ANYTHING at all of 50mg.

 

[Frogster]

On the hardness of the emphatogenic/etheogenic side, how does 6-APB compare to MDMA in terms of

1. enjoying deep and sincere conversation with close m8?

2. beeing chatty with strangers and being able to get in touch with their souls easily and becoming a flirting-master?

3. rather enjoying ones own thoughts like pursueing a conversation with the own mind and being rather desinterested with others?

4. how deep the mindfuck is, like thoughts racing as fast as light-speed, almost beeng impaired of listening to basic body needs (not feeling thirst ect.), loosing social abilities to almost needing a trip sitter and maybe beaking through to a psychadelic headspace?

Thanks, Froggie

 

[deano88]

has anybody tried 6-apb and 6-apbd what are the differences?

 

[Shambles]

^ Nobody has knowingly yet tried 6-APDB as far as I know.

6-(2-aminopropyl)-2, 3-dihydrobenzofuran is 6-APDB. I'd be very sceptical if the vendor is putting contradictory names/formulas on the label.

The last samples I received in "nearly finished" packaging did not have any chemical formula on other than the Brand Which Must Not Be Named and 6-APB (and the non-active pellet ingredients - although mine where pre-release capsules not pellets)

Shambles, is your figures on the doses with one of the early samples, or the most recent batch? Most recent batch was apparently much more potent than the last one (in other words, the lab preparing it did a piss poor job on the first sample batches, and didn't bother to clean it up)

100mg (oral) produced a very similar level of intoxication from both old (tan) and new (off-white) synths - the new synth just felt "cleaner" with less side-effects (not that I got too many from the old synth, to be honest). Rectal redosing of the new synth (never tried it with the old) wa very effective at doses of 50-80mg. Will be trying just rectal dosing with the remainder of my sample (new synth). No reports of any pleasant effects from nasal use of either version by anybody - sounds like you received a different drug entirely, to be honest.

On the hardness of the emphatogenic/etheogenic side, how does 6-APB compare to MDMA in terms of

1. enjoying deep and sincere conversation with close m8?

2. beeing chatty with strangers and being able to get in touch with their souls easily and becoming a flirting-master?

3. rather enjoying ones own thoughts like pursueing a conversation with the own mind and being rather desinterested with others?

4. how deep the mindfuck is, like thoughts racing as fast as light-speed, almost beeng impaired of listening to basic body needs (not feeling thirst ect.), loosing social abilities to almost needing a trip sitter and maybe beaking through to a psychadelic headspace?

1 - Only chatted with folk posting here (not really chatting) and once via Pidgin. Conversation flowed easily that time on IM although it was mostly incomprehensible when read back sober :D

2 - Not had the chance to chat with strangers as such... but I am naturally flirty and from some of the comments I made some places it certainly doesn't seem to interfere with that and most likely boosted it due to increased confidence and relaxtion.

3 - Comes and goes in waves for me. At times I feel so distracted that interaction with others seems a lotta work and at others I am desperate to chat to anybody. Not sure how that would pan out at a party or whatever though.

4 - Mindfuck almost non-existent at 100mg (for me) but with higher doses and/or redosing it became far more apparent. I still felt pretty together and with it but reading back some of the shit I was spouting I was very clearly wasted. This was when it felt most like MDA - not full-on trippy headspace, feel like you're making perfect sense but still somewhat unhinghed at the same time.

 

[deano88]

^ Nobody has knowingly yet tried 6-APDB as far as I know.



The last samples I received in "nearly finished" packaging did not have any chemical formula on other than the Brand Which Must Not Be Named and 6-APB (and the non-active pellet ingredients - although mine where pre-release capsules not pellets)



100mg (oral) produced a very similar level of intoxication from both old (tan) and new (off-white) synths. Rectal redosing of the new synth (never tried it with the old) wa very effective at doses of 50-80mg. Will be trying just rectal dosing with the remainder of my sample (new synth). No reports of any pleasant effects from nasal use of either version by anybody - sounds like you received a different drug entirely, to be honest.

what exeactly are pellets? i thought it was capsules but from what you said its obviously not

 

[Shambles]

I haven't seen them yet but I'm thinking they will probably be capsule shape (could be any shape but that's what I think of as a pellet) and solid all the way through. Basically funny-shaped pills, I suppose. I'm pretty sure they will be distinctively branded to mark them out as legit... for a lil while until the copycats come out anyway

 

[Mr Wobble]

I would guess that they've chosen to call them pellets because to call them pills or tablets would suggest that they're intended for human consumption - which they're obviously not.

...pellets fits the general *cough* 'plant food' story.

 

[Shambles]

Indeed, Mr Wobble.

Behold (actual) fertiliser pellets which may or may be the kinda form 6-APB will be sold in...

NSFW:

 

[deano88]

ah right i tought it would be like capsules where you can pull them apart and the powder is inside