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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

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Slam_London said:
I read your IV report and got pretty excited. The question now us will that 'other stuff' turning it into pellets still make it IV-able Shambles?
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Definitely not safe to inject in pellet form. Would only be possible with pure powder like the samples which may or may not be available again at some point - pellets all the way initially so I and anybody else will have to hold back on the IV stuff until powder becomes available.

To be honest, whilst very enjoyable, it has similar drawbacks to IV use of MDMA - lower dose and more intense but also massively reduced duration which makes redosing almost inevitable. It seems a shame to take a drug with such incredibly low fiend-factor and make it compulsive like that really. Even if I had loads of pure powder I'd be using it orally (and probably rectally - to be tested that way soon) as the overall experience is much more enjoyable. For needle fetishists it would be a novelty and probably a lotta fun, but far from the best way to get the most out of it.

Also, I was fortunate enough to receive a sample pack of capsules (cos it still hasn't been pelletised yet - nearly there though it seems) so will be exploring a bit of anal action at some point between now and the weekend. Have high hopes for that ROA so should be good :)
 
i have read that MDA has more psychedelic an stimulant like effetcs than MDMA, whereas MDMA has more emphathongenic euphoric effetcs than MDA, where does 6-apb fit into all this two anyone who has tried all three, i assume APB will swing more towards the MDA side as isnt that what its an analogue of?
 
blobbymahn said:
Regarding toxicity of this compound... I *think* I read somewhere that bromodragonfly caused seizures and heart failure because of the benzodifuran ring on it... could this be similar with the benzofuran ring?

I am no chemist, the above could be bullshit.
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Sounds a bit alarming... Anyone with a chemistry background able to comment on that?
 
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blobbymahn said:
Regarding toxicity of this compound... I *think* I read somewhere that bromodragonfly caused seizures and heart failure because of the benzodifuran ring on it... could this be similar with the benzofuran ring?

I am no chemist, the above could be bullshit.
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this was 1-(8-bromobenzol[1,2-b;4,5-b’]difuran-4-yl)-2-aminopropane); mixed with ketamine an cannabis
 
loubanez said:
i have read that MDA has more psychedelic an stimulant like effetcs than MDMA, whereas MDMA has more emphathongenic euphoric effetcs than MDA, where does 6-apb fit into all this two anyone who has tried all three, i assume APB will swing more towards the MDA side as isnt that what its an analogue of?
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It's closer to MDMA, in my opinion. The bodyfeel, physical effects and headspace are much closer to MDMA than MDA. The trippy elements have mostly been fairly minor for me so far - not as obvious as they are with MDA - and is less speedy than straight MDA. I suppose an approximation would be somewhat similar to a decent dose of MDMA with just a dash of MDA but not a huge dash. The new synth appears to have more on the trippy side (and more of everything else too for that matter) but haven't experimented enough with it yet to say for sure. I will be giving the new synth a proper testdrive very soon though so will see what I see :)
 
^Soon... Come on Shambles you want to today :) Give us who are waiting on this one on of your detailed reports :)

I have not touched any mdma since I was in Barcelona during Sonar just incase of any cross tolerance.

Update this thread with a live feed!
 
Hehe. I actually said very soon... we'll see. I'm not too good at having drugs to hand and not letting them accidentally fall into bodily orifices so will probably be sooner rather than later ;)

Depends how I feel. Been just a tad hedonistic this last week or two so kinda knackered and should probably leave it till tomorrow or the weekend cos I don't wanna waste something in such short supply by taking it when I'm not feeling too great, to be honest. Saying that, get a coupla beers in me and I'm anychem's :D
 
looking through the posts it seems people who have tried this RC so far has said its not as stimulating as MDMA but is it stimulating enough to keep you up all night or wil it wear off pretty fast in that sense?
 
It'll keep you up all night and then some, in my (limited) experience... but somehow doesn't feel especially speedy for the most part. It's more a case of being less in yer face stimulating than MDA which is the obvious comparison with it being an MDA analogue. I'd put the stimulation level at approximately comparable to a moderate dose of MDMA... but the new synth appears to be more potent in every way so may have that added kick to make it more of a full-on party drug without needing bolstering.

PS: Fuck it. Feeling wide awake and perky now after food and a few drinks so one cap swallowed. Two to a pack both weighing approximately 180mg (including the capsule weight - and they're chunky ol' capsules) so I suspect 100mg of powder per cap as expected (will weigh the rest sans capsule for plugging purposes etc). Tis the new synth so should be a full experience in every way. Keep ya posted :)
 
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Shambles said:
It'll keep you up all night and then some, in my (limited) experience... but somehow doesn't feel especially speedy for the most part. It's more a case of being less in yer face stimulating than MDA which is the obvious comparison with it being an MDA analogue. I'd put the stimulation level at approximately comparable to a moderate dose of MDMA... but the new synth appears to be more potent in every way so may have that added kick to make it more of a full-on party drug without needing bolstering.

PS: Fuck it. Feeling wide awake and perky now after food and a few drinks so one cap swallowed. Two to a pack both weighing approximately 180mg (including the capsule weight - and they're chunky ol' capsules) so I suspect 100mg of powder per cap as expected (will weigh the rest sans capsule for plugging purposes etc). Tis the new synth so should be a full experience in every way. Keep ya posted :)
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as long as it keeps you up thats the main thing its not such a problem for me but some of my m8s falls asleep easy and its boring when that happens :X
 
Not sure about old vs new synth for pellets. I would imagine that the first batch or two of pellets may consist of the old synth (assuming they had enough powder to pelletise before the new synth landed which is the impression I got with the new synth replacing that shortly afterwards. 100mg of the old synth was a good dose as it was so if they are sticking to 100mg of the new synth I would expect a bit of a jump in effects from one batch to the other. I really don't know though and they may well have ditched the old synth entirely (which could possibly account for the delay). But pure speculation on my part, to be honest. I wouldn't turn my nose up at either, to be honest.
 
If this compound's emetic properties are triggered by 5-HT3 agonism, would one presume that they could be blocked by preloading with a dose of this receptor's antagonists [example: Metoclopramide]?

Sorry if it's a stupid question, I am planning on trying this stuff tomorrow at a festival and would really like to avoid them shitty fest cans :)

[1st post woo-hoo!]
 
^I assume so, especially considering the reports of MDAI causing nausea as a serotonin releaser that's likely weaker than 6-APB given the effects at reported doses. Ondansetron has been a life-saver with respect to psychedelic and empathogenic related nausea for me. It gets rid of the nausea and actually improves the euphoria and seemingly the psychedelia (theoretically because of receptor spill-over to other serotonin receptor sub-types, but that could just be the power of suggestion on my part)
 
Thanks for the quick reply psood0nym!

Will try it tomorrow for sure and will post back. Just don't hope for a detailed TR because fuck knows what T+.. it'll be. Kind of hard to keep track of time while at a war

Shambles, been following your posts for some time. Please do keep us updated & have a blast!
[Was planning to pack bags & go to sleep, but with you dropping this is already shaping up as a good pre-fest delight! Shit, even got the popcorn out of the oven :D]
 
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