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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

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Slam_London said:
I read your IV report and got pretty excited. The question now us will that 'other stuff' turning it into pellets still make it IV-able Shambles?
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I would imagine it will be bound with Magnesium stearate and microcrystalline cellulose.

So I imagine that would add risk when IV'd.
 
hi all, just to sum up then, do most of you who have tried this not reccomend this for clubbing purposes, is it more a stay at home and chill and enjoy kinda thing???
 
I wouldn't use it at a club on it's own. Would definitely be good mixed with some amphetamine.

to those that felt 'deflated' and 'down' after a weekend dose...

...how are you now? being 4-5 days after the event?
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am feeling a lot better than yesterday and the day before. Feel much more normal now.
 
mugabe said:
am feeling a lot better than yesterday and the day before. Feel much more normal now.
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glad to hear it, but not quite 100% though?

What are the symptoms then, lethargy? heavy limbs, head etc.? or is it more psychological: depression, boredom etc.?

I can't compare to MDMA comedown as I've never taken it but if you can answer from experience, how does it compare to the comedown from a heavy comparable mephedrone session?
 
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Not quite 100% but pretty much there. It was mostly psychological, didn't really want to get out of bed or off the sofa, was getting bored 10x faster and couldn't decide what else to do. I was a little more irritable as well.
 
I guess the main thing we are getting at here is to ascertain that it is indeed short term.

Seeing as you're getting better hopefully the dead neurons are slowly being swept away and new ones growing back. I.e. standard comedown recovery.
 
mugabe said:
Not quite 100% but pretty much there. It was mostly psychological, didn't really want to get out of bed or off the sofa, was getting bored 10x faster and couldn't decide what else to do. I was a little more irritable as well.
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Sorry to keep going on about this but I really want to get this clear in my mind and to have some kind of idea preparation in place and not to just go in blind,

The reason for this is the first (and only!) time I took MDPV over a weekend. Monday and Tuesday I called in sick to work as I could barely move let alone function/ stay awake etc. the following two days at work was difficult dragging my limp body around and holding my head up was hard work and all I wanted to do was sleep. When I was at home that's all I did do. Every day I became closer to normal, and on Friday was just a little tired. If the comedown was anything like that then I for one would find it hard to justify taking it.

With mephedrone apart from the cut up tongue and a little more tired than usual I felt fine the next day or so afterwards. I'm fully aware however that it's different for everyone and depends on things such as general drug usage and therefore tolerance, all round body fitness etc. Just wanted to give something to scale what I've experienced with the comedown from 6-APB.

So baring that in mind:

Would you say you would take another dose this weekend or would you leave it longer knowing what you know now?

Is this something you can see yourself doing week in, week out? (everyday!?!?)

Is this something you can see others being able to do week in, week out?

When you say psychological do you think its something you could break in the right environment or circumstance? (i.e. if someone came round and asked you to go down the pub?)

Would you trust yourself to drive at the worst part of the comedown, or is it really quite mild?

Again sorry for keep skating over this but it is very important to me because of my circumstances and from not having MDMA experience as a reference.
 
Would you say you would take another dose this weekend or would you leave it longer knowing what you know now?
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I would be perfectly happy taking another dose this weekend.

Is this something you can see yourself doing week in, week out? (everyday!?!?)
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Although I would be happy to do another dose this weekend. I wouldn't want to do it every weekend. I am not sure whether it would even work everyday so I can't really comment on that.

Is this something you can see others being able to do week in, week out?
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I can easily imagine the sort of people that use MDMA every weekend using this every weekend.

When you say psychological do you think its something you could break in the right environment or circumstance?
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Not sure tbh, I did make it into work everyday this week but it did take a lot of effort. I seemed to feel a lot better when I was up and around and doing stuff, but it just took a lot of effort getting there.

Would you trust yourself to drive at the worst part of the comedown, or is it really quite mild?
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Don't drive so can't be sure. Although I did trust myself to ride my bike around every day.


Hope that helps :)
 
^ yes it does, very much so, thanks.

...one last thing, when on it (100mg dose) would it be completely impossible to hide it from people who are straight?
If something happened that needed you undivided attention and focus could you handle such a situation?
Did you speak to anyone while on it that wasn't aware you'd taken anything?
Was the thought of having to talk to straights scary?

this is the last one, promise!
 
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^ime, completely impossible to "stealth take" this substance at 100mg! I guess pre-dose magnesium would help with the gurning, but still personally i wouldnt have a chance of hiding it.
 
Slam, I'd avoid injecting pills of any sort and if you must inject, please wait until the compound is available is high purity powdered form. The only time I ever injected mdma was when I had a batch that was so soluble that the atmospheric moisture contained in the paper bags I folded for individual sale caused the mdma to disappear into the paper. The powder was so soluble that 100mg would immediately disappear in a tiny amount of water.

Can anyone speak about clouding of vision and nearsightedness as is present with MDA and MDE but substantially lessened (at least with me) on MDMA? Has anyone noticed increased love towards their significant other on the following days as sometimes occurs with mdma?
 
Regarding toxicity of this compound... I *think* I read somewhere that bromodragonfly caused seizures and heart failure because of the benzodifuran ring on it... could this be similar with the benzofuran ring?

I am no chemist, the above could be bullshit.
 
Yea I'm planning to go to a club on this tomorrow so hoping I can 'stealth it' :).

I think I'll try 70mgs. I swear by magnesium and usually have a good ability to keep my use under wraps so hopefully won't be a prob.

I think I'll take it about an hour before and gauge my comeup. Although I'm sure I'd still enjoy it, I'd prefer not just be buzzing in my room all alone, wanna give it the club testrun as I'm determined to defy the club naysayers on this as shambles has given it such a close likening to 'oldskool' MDMA.
 
superb ha rambulas, i will be looking forward to your experience as i too am hoping this will be good experience in clubs/pubs on night out etc, would not be the same if you could only take at home
 
Jmax said:
^I got that exact feeling. Taken on saturday evening and until last night I felt pretty downbeat. Coincidence?
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What dose did you take? The higher the dose the more downbeat you may feel - but it is an individual thing.
 
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