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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

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angelsmoke said:
I tried the second whiter batch on Friday with mugabe, and it blew my socks off compared to the first time.

It was altogether a much stronger experiences. I did get visual effects this time - not full blown hallucinations but general brightening and buzzing.
It also got me much more "fucked" -- wish I had a better word -- out of it, disoriented, I guess. While it was very enjoyable, I would find it too much in a club.

I've definitely had a mid week dip this week. This morning I could just not be bothered with anything - very "what's the point?".
It's not as bad as MDMA or meph comedown - I find those make me feel bad enough to interfere with my life. It's more just feeling "bleh, I can't be bothered".

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Our 200mg sample weighed 160mg out of the bag because of the amount stuck to the inside of the bag. I licked the bag - grim but simple.
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How long did it take you to come up and how long did the peak last? Also how similar did you find it to MDMA. For example if 100% is exactly the same and 0% is totally different, what percentage would you give it?

Harambulus said:
I don't have any scales. I have been told (in cover letter) I have a 100 mgs so looks like it's gonna have to be an 'eyeball' job.
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That makes 2 of us :)
 
I guess it's early days to get this sort of info, as i'm kinda looking for personal experience.. I'm interested to hear of any reports involving the 6-APB responses with concurrent SSRI or SNRI use (on 60ish migs Ven). I know some may have the intial response of... will be the SAAAME :o as MDMA, but pharmacology is sometimes more complicated as we know. I read a report before that someone experienced little or no cross-tolerence with MDMA... pretty interesting when you think about cross tolerance between common psychedelics like LSD and Psilocybin which are far more different in structure.

I'm kinda expecting there to be a nullification come testing day, and thou wisdom says brain chemistry needs to level off, as i'm reducing my Ven (my SAD treatment is rather difficult to give up despite it being summer) I will however make it my personal responsibility to write up a full experience, (or non-expericence) as soon as I can.

This is my first post, please excuse the waffle, will be more direct and comprehensible next time... Or Will I?? ;)
 
Harambulus said:
Hmm sounds like nothing a 5htp/tyrosine course won't fix! :)
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Possibly - if you're one of the people they work for. I've never had any luck with 5-htp but tyrosine seemed to help with meph comedowns.

I fail to believe this one won;t be good for a club!
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If you like being "off your face"then probably great! I prefer to be a bit more clear headed when in public than I was on 6-APB.

Mullered said:
How long did it take you to come up and how long did the peak last? Also how similar did you find it to MDMA. For example if 100% is exactly the same and 0% is different, what percentage would you give it?
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40 minutes to start feeling the effects. FAST come up after that over what felt like about 10 mins. Included vomitting, again, seemed completely unavoidable as this time I was prepared and really tried to keep it down. The peak was 3-4 hours, I think, sorry for being vague but I was too mashed to keep track! After the peak was about another 2 hours of feeling good and fucked, before the proper comedown started.

Percentage is really hard to give, because some aspects were similar and some were not. The euphoria and empathy weren't as "wow" as with MDMA.
I guess as an MDMA replacement I'd give it 70% but on sheer effects comparison maybe 50%.

Sex is possible and excellent on 6-APB.
 
Pralus said:
I guess it's early days to get this sort of info, as i'm kinda looking for personal experience.. I'm interested to hear of any reports involving the 6-APB responses with concurrent SSRI or SNRI use (on 60ish migs Ven). I know some may have the intial response of... will be the SAAAME :o as MDMA, but pharmacology is sometimes more complicated as we know. I read a report before that someone experienced little or no cross-tolerence with MDMA... pretty interesting when you think about cross tolerance between common psychedelics like LSD and Psilocybin which are far more different in structure.

I'm kinda expecting there to be a nullification come testing day, and thou wisdom says brain chemistry needs to level off, as i'm reducing my Ven (my SAD treatment is rather difficult to give up despite it being summer) I will however make it my personal responsibility to write up a full experience, (or non-expericence) as soon as I can.

This is my first post, please excuse the waffle, will be more direct and comprehensible next time... Or Will I?? ;)
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Unfortunatly I cant answer your questions Pralus but welcome to the thread! :)

angelsmoke said:
Sex is possible and excellent on 6-APB.
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Always a plus point!!
 
angelsmoke said:
If you like being "off your face"then probably great! I prefer to be a bit more clear headed when in public than I was on 6-APB.
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Certainly not, but I presume less would not produce such pronounced effects like anything else. I was contemplating 70 mgs ish (guess of course due to lack of scales) as ppl are saying 100mgs is a heavy trip.

I have a really good mind/body connection and even if I haven't done a drug I can gauge how it will hit me (touch wood :)) after a few mins, or when I begin to feel effects; like as it ramps up (fast or slow).
 
Any comments regarding how 6-APB compares to MDMA with respect to its euphonogenic (music enhancement) properties - more specifically is there an MDMA-like effect upon the perception and feel of groove/rhythm?
 
Harambulus said:
Certainly not, but I presume less would not produce such pronounced effects like anything else. I was contemplating 70 mgs ish (guess of course due to lack of scales) as ppl are saying 100mgs is a heavy trip.
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Fair enough :) I took a lower dose (eyeballed, guessing about 70mg) the first time, and had a more club friendly, but less amazing, experience. Different batch though, so can't be certain.

I found music enhancement really great too. Like soaring with the music :) That was on the higher dose though - not so much on the lower.
 
Shambles said:
The Big and Dandy Guide to Rectal Administration (Plugging)

Not tried plugging yet but probably will be next week. Would imagine it would be similar to plugging MDMA but am not aware of anybody trying it that way so far.
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Did you ever try this? I just did a search for "plug" in this thread and only this post turned up so sorry if this has been addressed further already. I'd have thought by now someone would have tried it, seeing as how you'd want to get the most out of your samples. As stated, you'd expect a roughly 50 percent increase in potency and lessened nausea/onset time/duration, but who really knows?
 
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Ok, so when I finally have a pellet in my sweaty mitts, what is the safest way to do it without it being rubbish? My plan at present is to scrape a bit off the pellet, do an allergy test, then all being well take all 100mg at once a couple of hours later. I really don't want to underdose as this really is going to be a one time thing.
 
Psood: Not tried plugging yet but will be with my next sample - possibly this weekend if it arrives in time, next week if not.

Mullered: It doesn't exactly taste nice - very, very bitter. If you have powder, I'd wrap it in a rizla or gel cap it rather than drink it in water. If you go the drinking route have something strong-tasting to chase it with cos it ain't too pleasing to the palate.
 
Shambles said:
Psood: Not tried plugging yet but will be with my next sample - possibly this weekend if it arrives in time, next week if not.

Mullered: It doesn't exactly taste nice - very, very bitter. If you have powder, I'd wrap it in a rizla or gel cap it rather than drink it in water. If you go the drinking route have something strong-tasting to chase it with cos it ain't too pleasing to the palate.
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Usually I would use rizzla Shambles but Im worried about losing 30mg or so that seems to be stuck to the bag. Im pretty sure I can handle the full 100mg, even if its a bit over. I used to use the 'bag washing' method with the last bit of meph that would be stuck in the bag - rip the bag open, turn it inside out and swill in a bit of water. Then neck the water. Im thinking this is the only way to get the whole lot out of the bag in one, its quite a tiny amount in there. Also the covernote that came in the envolope recommended using water too.

I think I'll have some coffee on standby as its strong tasting and I used to find caffein quickened the come up with MDMA. :)
 
^taste isnt tooo bad, slightly "chemically", but nowhere near as bitter as dissolved mephedrone or codeine for exmaple.
 
codeine...*tries to hold back puking into mouth*.

Ye I found mdma no probs would dab it on my gums, speed etc, but codeine is a bridge too far! It's mainly cos the drug causes nausea in itself so I have that negative association now.
 
Shambles; said:
A few have tried snorting it and all seem to have found the effects to be either disappointing, unpleasant or ineffective. That was with the pure powder too - it will be bound up with "other stuff" in pellet form which is how it will be sold initially.
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I read your IV report and got pretty excited. The question now us will that 'other stuff' turning it into pellets still make it IV-able Shambles?
 
@ Angelsmoke after how long was sex possible in regards to the initial dose, or should I say after how long was Mugabe able to function ? :)
 
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