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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

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In light of this, when I get mine I plan to mix with ephedrine
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Eeeeeewww. You are odd. ;)
Why not, like, ethcathinone instead? It still acts nearly solely as an NE releaser, but it has a far higher ratio of CNS to PNS effects and far less direct adrenergic agonism than ephedrine.

Or why not bring dopamine to the party (pursuing a release profile closer to MDMA or MDA)? Is it that by avoiding such, you hope to minimize neurotoxicity?

I dunno. Almost all people find 6-apb sufficiently well rounded on its own, no stimulant desired...

ebola
 
There was definitely a very stimulating aspect to my experience but wouldn't say it was comparable to your average amphetamine or cathinone buzz. A mellow buzz overall.

A lot of mention for headaches following the comedown, didn't experience this myself but had some eye strain this morning which passes swiftly.
 
That is how I would describe the stimulation, Technics - definitely present but not in yer face like a straight stim is. Those looking for meph replacements need not apply and those in search of a legal club/party drug may not find it quite stimulating enough either. I would urge the latter to give it a try alone before mixing with stims though cos some find it more stimulating than others and I really enjoyed the laid-back level of stimulation. I wasn't out and about though which probably makes a difference.
 
i dont know why people want to go mixing 6-apb with speed or anything because when i took this i couldnt sit still and i think this would be really good for going out clubbing on! just different peoples preferances though!
 
feeny87 said:
i dont know why people want to go mixing 6-apb with speed or anything because when i took this i couldnt sit still and i think this would be really good for going out clubbing on! just different peoples preferances though!
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i think its only the people who take stims very often that find it dissapointing in that aspect but for people who don't would probably find it very effective thats my guese anyway.

i don't take astuff every weekend so it might effect me more i dunno i'll just have to find out.

by the way any news on exact dates this will be available? to say i'm getting a little inpatient is a understatement!!!! :X
 
Will be available "very soon" but beyond that we would rather avoid that kinda speculation - it will be available when it is available. I suspect it will be very obvious when it is.

Feeny: I tend to agree. I love me stims so did find the stimulation slightly underwhelming but was certainly very apparent so I would still advise even stim-fiends like me to try it first before assuming it won't be stimulating enough.
 
Just to clarify: 6-APB is legal in the UK right? At least for the time being...and if so I wonder what it'll be advertised as (the infamous 'plant food' guise comes to mind).
 
I am getting really confused now, on 2 accounts.
1- The length of time this is taking to get to market, I understand the process is probably longer to make bigger quantities but they must of had an idea how long it would take when they started the process so why all the postponing the release date over and over again.
2- When people first sampled this approx 2 weeks or so ago, it seemed that everyone was raving about how similar the effects were to mdma/mda, yet 2 weeks down the line i'm now hearing its actually not like it.

I don't know about anyone else but as the days tick by, i'm losing more and more interest
 
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Just to clarify: 6-APB is legal in the UK right? At least for the time being...and if so I wonder what it'll be advertised as (the infamous 'plant food' guise comes to mind).
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its being advertised as a research chemical thats strictly not for human consumption. thats what my vendor tels me anyway.....
 
It is legal worldwide as far as I know. Presume it will end up being sold as "fertiliser pellets" or the like and the price will drop as supply grows to meet demand. But please folks, lets keep clear of the speculation - it will be on sale when it's on sale and will cost what it costs and no amount of bitching about it will make a blind bit of difference.

Shakermaker:

1 - Couldn't say but bear in mind that they only just perfected the synth - the original samples used a different synth that produced a less pure product so if they are aiming for top quality from the start that will be adding time. I do agree they jumped the gun by a long way in announcing it though and sure they realise that themselves. FWIW, the last sample I had was in a "nearly finished" state so definitely seems to be getting there :)

2 - It is very similar indeed to MDMA with just a hint of MDA. Higher doses are more reminiscent of the MDA headspace but without the speediness.
 
@ shambles

cheers for the feed back, i was hoping you would say that
2 weeks ago when people including yourself were trying out what was the original (and genuine) samples, all reports seemed to say the same thing.
I am just wondering exactly wot some other people have been trying over the last week or so as their reports seem to be so different.
I am just getting suspicious as to whether people have been sent different things through no fault of their own, and maybe their reports are now causing confusion?
From wot i can gather there are certainly more than 5 sites now claiming to be involved with this
 
Loads of places are selling shonky "6-APB" which frankly could be anything... except 6-APB. There are apparently Chinese synths now available but have heard nothing good about them - either out and out fakes, (possibly) 6-APDB sold under false pretences (would be good but only if they were honest about it) or very poorly synthed 6-APB that is probably best avoided until they get the synth right.

There is also the fundamental issue of YMMV - right from the start there were wildly varying descriptions... although perhaps more similar than not. Also, bear in mind that those early tests tended to involve several people dosing at the same time making for a bit of a party atmosphere - even online we were feeding off each other. Being an empathogen these more recent solo test runs probably aren't showing it in its best light.
 
Imp: Newer synth didn't really feel much more speedy to me, to be honest. Felt "cleaner" in general and doesn't seem to give as much residual stimulation afterwards but is still very much the same drug just cleaned up a bit.
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Bit pissed so may revisit this in the morning lol. It was very good but not what I was looking for. And even with a 20 year gap I can still remember the feeling of "I`m going to do this for fucking ever".

It isnt E/MDMA and if I had to pick something that was close to E/MDMA, despite the shouts from the purists here, it would be mephedrone or m1 and I would pitch them closer. It will sell like hot cakes anyway so I`m safe enough saying that it is not a rave drug now. Though might be different at a festival outside event.
Thanks for the reply though :)

Each to his own, suck it and see =D
 
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Well here's my report. Recieved a sample of 160mg, split it with my girl, 100 for me and 60 for her. I have a (pain in the arse) tolerance to everything, while she seems to be exactly the opposite, with everything we take, from pills/mdma to psychs, so i thought 100/60 would be a good ratio for us.

I don't know what to say other than "wow". I had to keep telling myself that we did not in fact have pills/mdma, it was so similar to me. Subtle differences to pure mdma (which i've only had once so hard to compare) but I could have sworn we'd had really, really good pills. So many effects in common, unfortunately right down to the inability to sleep properly (we went to bed 7 hours after dosing) and urine retention - I was basically up and down all night pissing, exactly same as a night on pills. 2mg of Valium didn't help, maybe I need more next time (first time ever with valium)

It is now the next morning and i'm feeling tired but not too rooted. Just had some food which was nice which I probably couldn't do at this time if I'd been on good pills.

Right now depending on how the comedown shapes up for the next day or few, I have very high hopes for this one... the comdown effects seem very similar to mdma but not so bad. So many similarities though.

One concern I do have is that the vendors are apparently selling 100mg per pellet. As I said I have an unusually high tolerance for everything but 100mg was a decent amount - I felt like i'd had 2 or 3 good pills. When my gf was monging her face off (from 60mg) I asked her how many pills she thought it felt like and her exact quote (through clenched teeth) was "about 20 of the bastards" haha. I think the sellers would be better off selling them at half the price but onlt 50mg per pill or less, due to some party kids routine of double or triple dropping straight up - hopefully the high price will curb that though.

Sorry for all the comparisons to pills, normally I'm more into psychs but I figure the market for this is pill poppers hence the comparisons.

One thing I did notice that conflicted with what I'd read here is that I definitely wanted more, at around the 2-3 hour mark. If I'd had more it would have all gone down the hatch - some early reports on BL said there is no fiendyness to 6-APB but that was definitely not the case with the sample I received.

Anyway, thanks for reading my long report, I can't wait til it's more readily available becuase this is absolutely almost a 100% mdma replacement for mine.
 
Nice report, Instink. Definitely fits with my experience. Even the redosing thing now - didn't get it first time (old synth) but have done both times with the new synth for some reason. Not in a major meph-fiend stylee but if there's more to hand it's kinda hard to ignore it. As you mention, cost will likely keep a lid on excessive consumption at first cos I just couldn't afford to redose often :\
 
instink said:
Well here's my report. Recieved a sample of 160mg, split it with my girl, 100 for me and 60 for her. I have a (pain in the arse) tolerance to everything, while she seems to be exactly the opposite, with everything we take, from pills/mdma to psychs, so i thought 100/60 would be a good ratio for us.

I don't know what to say other than "wow". I had to keep telling myself that we did not in fact have pills/mdma, it was so similar to me. Subtle differences to pure mdma (which i've only had once so hard to compare) but I could have sworn we'd had really, really good pills. So many effects in common, unfortunately right down to the inability to sleep properly (we went to bed 7 hours after dosing) and urine retention - I was basically up and down all night pissing, exactly same as a night on pills. 2mg of Valium didn't help, maybe I need more next time (first time ever with valium)

It is now the next morning and i'm feeling tired but not too rooted. Just had some food which was nice which I probably couldn't do at this time if I'd been on good pills.

Right now depending on how the comedown shapes up for the next day or few, I have very high hopes for this one... the comdown effects seem very similar to mdma but not so bad. So many similarities though.

One concern I do have is that the vendors are apparently selling 100mg per pellet. As I said I have an unusually high tolerance for everything but 100mg was a decent amount - I felt like i'd had 2 or 3 good pills. When my gf was monging her face off (from 60mg) I asked her how many pills she thought it felt like and her exact quote (through clenched teeth) was "about 20 of the bastards" haha. I think the sellers would be better off selling them at half the price but onlt 50mg per pill or less, due to some party kids routine of double or triple dropping straight up - hopefully the high price will curb that though.

Sorry for all the comparisons to pills, normally I'm more into psychs but I figure the market for this is pill poppers hence the comparisons.

One thing I did notice that conflicted with what I'd read here is that I definitely wanted more, at around the 2-3 hour mark. If I'd had more it would have all gone down the hatch - some early reports on BL said there is no fiendyness to 6-APB but that was definitely not the case with the sample I received.

Anyway, thanks for reading my long report, I can't wait til it's more readily available becuase this is absolutely almost a 100% mdma replacement for mine.
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nice =D

just hope it was 6-apb you recieved
 
Yeah, it seems that 100mg is way the hell too high of a dose. I enjoyed 8.6mg far more than I expected. It sounds like the proper dose for a full on strong roll is around 50mg, not 100mg.
 
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