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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 1)

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Cheers for the swift reply mate, this is why im dubious. When I emailed him he said it was 'un-official' Benzo fury powder. By this he meant it was made by a different lab than the rest...

I have just opened it and had a look, it has almost no smell and is a flour like white powder. It has very little taste but quite bitter anda fair bit is stuck to the bag. Is that anything like what you recieved?
 
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That's a common line at the moment. Usually followed up with "Sorry about that, they sent the wrong stuff but when I get another batch in I'll make it up to you...". I may be wrong, but have heard nothing but Badness about this supposed "unofficial 6-APB". That's not to say there isn't any but have heard of none proving to be legit so far myself :\
 
I see, maybe will try a little bit later to see, what would you recomend in terms of dosage so that if it is 6-APB i will know and if it isn't it wont kill me lol
 
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Shambles, I'd be interested to hear how your experiences of it compare to my lower dose stimulation wise.

I'm still skeptical of whether it could hold up as a drug for dancing without being bolstered by another substance, as like I said I was just sat on my ass nearly all last night with no inclination to get up thought still appreciating the music.

Could surely be a dosage curve deal though which is why I'm interested to hear your comparative thoughts plus any other who did the 100mg+ range doses.
 
F1: I'd start with a 1mg or so allergy test followed by maybe 5-10mg later on to check for high-potency fake product (naphyrone etc). I'm not sure what the threshold dose for 6-APB is but a few people found 50mg to be pretty strong (and others hardly felt it). Another problem is that oral redosing doesn't seem all that effective from those who tried it (whereas rectal redosing was for me and others for some reason) so adding lil bits until you feel something may not work at all. You may well have to do it the "proper" way and take slightly higher doses individually spread over a few days to do it safely, I'm afraid. Most of the fake stuff seems to be (probably) NRG-2/3 which is weak as hell but you really don't know in this case.

Haram: Redosing and higher doses did add more stimulation but never to the point I'd call it full-on speedy. It did, however, make the "trippy" headspace more prominent. The redosing definitely made it more reminiscent of the MDA connection and I was way more out of it (but still felt in control... but probably wouldn't have looked that way to others :D) but it still never became massively stimulating. Would like to cautiously experiment with adding a stim to see how that goes sometime. I'm not a clubbing kinda chap but would suit me as it is for free parties and the like where chatting to randoms and just wandering about seeing what you can see is half the fun.
 
Would it be advisable to drink a solution oif water and a small amount of the powder instead of bombing? Sorry for all the questions am just trying to be safe :P
 
Should make no difference really - in solution or in Rizla or whatever it's all oral dosing. The only difference would be that a solution would probably hit a bit sooner but otherwise no difference.

And asking questions is a good thing - this is a HR site after all and answering questions about safer usage of drugs is what we're all here for (amongst other things perhaps) :)
 
Heh, word.

I'm kinda the other way in that I prefer dancing for ages. chatting to randoms usually makes me feel stupid the next day once my everyday ego descends once again. I appreciate my ego in that it prevents me from doing stupid stuff :) although going outside it for a sojourn can be useful for error correcting and to check it's doing its job properly and not being overzelous, yet I digress..

I like stims in that they don't make me act out of character too much and chatting can be fun on them without the worry of feeling like I'm acting the fool (or feeling to overconfident to care, heh) but just amp up my existing one. Ego strengthening rather than dissolution if you will. One thing I dislike about MDMA (although I can keep that better under control as it's more crisp and stimulating than this 6-apb) and especially with this is the 'fakeness' of the feeling of euphoria once you comedown. With meph/speed etc. it feels 'real' rather than out of character. My exp anyhow. dopamine vs. serotonin.

So if you're saying the 'mashyness' just increases on this then I don't see it having much recreational value for me being a 'hard' stim lover. Speed has such a grotesque comedown and meph was too but didn't last long enough to be a viable drugs for me either. It seems most speedyesque ones seems to come with bad comedown and paranoia as standard.
 
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totally agree that this one is smooth but not speedy at all !! with a 200mg dose yesterday i was helplessly hoping that it might have a bit more of a kick to it .. but it never came.. just same old automatic smoothness... after the short low peak it was pretty much plain downhill smoothness.. so i decided to add a few lines of czech pervitin that a little pixie cooly sent me.. and straight away a warm speedy notion was added to it and felt tons better and welcomingly livened it up .. for those thinking its smiliar to mdma i think you might be a little disapointed because its lacking that stim/euphoria buzz to it... for me it feels more like the after peak sensation of mdma than actually the full spectrum of mdma madness,
So its prettymuch for me a sort of chilly high without any acceleration so defo will be comboing it with speed for when i want to feel a little push up the ass ..
 
oh and one thing i have noticed every single time i've taken it despite the actual no comedown as such i've had a blinding fullon head ache for a short while ... and i dont usually get head aches at all apart from a heavy session on the booze..
 
it would be interesting to see what 6-apb would be like in combination with mdma from the sounds of it it would be the best combo ever but i think keeping the mdma dose small would be best just for that added stimulation.
 
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oh and one thing i have noticed every single time i've taken it despite the actual no comedown as such i've had a blinding fullon head ache for a short while ... and i dont usually get head aches at all apart from a heavy session on the booze..
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A banging (but mercifully fairly brief) headache seems to be a regular feature and clear sign it's wearing off. Other than tiredness it seems to be the only real comedown symptom I've had. Has happened every time without fail though :\
 
In light of this, when I get mine I plan to mix with ephedrine (what with amphetamine being the single least recreational thing on the planet for me) just for that extra kick needed for a good night out :)
 
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In light of this, when I get mine I plan to mix with ephedrine (what with amphetamine being the single least recreational thing on the planet for me) just for that extra kick needed for a good night out :)
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whats ephedrine when its at home
 
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*cough* Google is your friend *cough* ;)

Or if you really can't be bothered it's a stimulant (legal in most places) that most can't stand but DP inexplicably seems to like cos he's a freak ;)
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legal stimulant? sounds horribal, headaches and irratabilty is all i can see from this although i cant be arsed to do research. much rather stick to illegal substances. (exept 6-APB of course =D)
 
I would be interested to try the newer synth, as the original, while highly enjoyable wasn`t a `hands in the air` dancing my ass off experience for me.

I will watch the reports with interest once its available but I havent seen anything yet to show me otherwise.
 
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In light of this, when I get mine I plan to mix with ephedrine (what with amphetamine being the single least recreational thing on the planet for me) just for that extra kick needed for a good night out :)
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blecch, I hate ephedrine. One of the reason I hate beta keto's is because they make me feel like I took too much ephedrine, right down to that awful taste in your throat.
 
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