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The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-MiPT Thread

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^^^ Wow, thanks for the info! Thats helpful!

I'm tempted to try this one again...I wonder how it would combine after a half dose of methylone (right after the peak).

Is it a chemical that you find you can control yourself on in reasonable doses (ie doesn't put you too far out of your mind like lsd or mushrooms)?
 
Nice description, your nerdness! Although I'm not sure I trust it... ;)

I think if I were to choose a psychedelic for day enhancement to use daily as a medicine, it would probably overall be 5-MeO-MiPT. It leaves you mentally sober, almost more than sober. Extremely functional, great mood boost, and I found, during a bike accident on it that I had, that it can really help you to deal with stressful physical danger situations. I had been going down a steep hill, and the grass covered a large hole and I couldn't stop in time. I flewoff the front of the bike, no helmet, no pads, nothing, headfirst at some large sharp rocks. But it was amazing, time seemed to slow down like in the Matrix or something, and totally calmly and deliberately, I twisted by body in the air as I watched the ground come up ever-so-slowly, and by the time I landed it was on the side of my thigh in the least rocky place possible and had already prepared the exact spot for landing with the muscles there. I got deeply gouged in the thigh and side, but I was the calmest among my friends and fiance and I. It didn't even hurt until hours later because I was disconnected from the pain and found it an interesting sensation.

And S_S - Myself being a person who has taken to redosing and becoming hedonistic with psychedelics, 5-MeO-MiPT is one that stands out to me as being non-addictive. This is just personal reaction, and may be totally different for others, but despite going through periods of wanting to take things like AMT, DOC, 2C-I, 2C-D, 2C-B, and even 4-AcO-DMT daily, and sometimes even going through with it for a while, and despite many of those days/nights being extended by multiple redosings, I have never once redosed 5-MeO-MiPT, nor have I fiended for it. I mean, I really love the stuff, it's great. One of my favorites. But I just never seem to want to do it except occasionally.

So take that for what you will.

EDIT: Heh... I see now that you were actually asking if you can control your behavior on it. Well, yes. Like I said, it makes me feel very enhanced. It also makes me want to talk, to sober people and to friends. It basically just makes me feel as if I can behave any way that I'd like to, without mania like some things give which causes you to feel like you should behave inappropriately.
 
Xorkoth said:
Nice description, your nerdness! Although I'm not sure I trust it... ;)

I think if I were to choose a psychedelic for day enhancement to use daily as a medicine, it would probably overall be 5-MeO-MiPT. It leaves you mentally sober, almost more than sober. Extremely functional, great mood boost, and I found, during a bike accident on it that I had, that it can really help you to deal with stressful physical danger situations. I had been going down a steep hill, and the grass covered a large hole and I couldn't stop in time. I flewoff the front of the bike, no helmet, no pads, nothing, headfirst at some large sharp rocks. But it was amazing, time seemed to slow down like in the Matrix or something, and totally calmly and deliberately, I twisted by body in the air as I watched the ground come up ever-so-slowly, and by the time I landed it was on the side of my thigh in the least rocky place possible and had already prepared the exact spot for landing with the muscles there. I got deeply gouged in the thigh and side, but I was the calmest among my friends and fiance and I. It didn't even hurt until hours later because I was disconnected from the pain and found it an interesting sensation.

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I had a similar experience after snapping my handlebars (carbon fiber, never again) on 2c-e (14mg). Before I even realized what was happening, I instinctively acted and braced with my right arm (I broke the entire left half off at the stem) and not even fall off of my bike. I had a holy fuck moment after fully realizing how bad it could have been, but I made it . I had to walk home and put new bars on, but still, the people I was with (who did not know I was not sober) could not believe I didnt eat it bad.
 
samadhi_smiles said:
Is it a chemical that you find you can control yourself on in reasonable doses (ie doesn't put you too far out of your mind like lsd or mushrooms)?
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thats one of the main points. things cant get too funky. even with not-so-reasonable doses. if i personally used something more intense with the same frequency i would spoil my general stimulus to a point where i would most likely end up very depressed.

i think there is a point in the career of any "serious" (not the "lets have 2 grams of mushrooms with my buddies on a lake in the summertime" type)
psychedelics user where he either can start to create his reality frame for a better or is left confused and keeps longing for new, better, faster and stronger experiences. and most likely ends up in his room, violently trying to smash himself in the void with megadoses of everything.

moxy cuts all the slack and provides a good tradeoff between the two
 
I think you guys are giving this stuff a lot of credit... which I agree, its a great chemical from the one time I did it.

But lets not forget that it exhibits signs of the 5-MeO-DiPT dose/response curve and that there have been reports of hospitalization from psychosis on doses over 20mg just like 5-MeO-DiPT.

At the dose that I was given (16mg), it was definitely bordering on the side of too much stimulation but it was still pleasant because I had it under control.

I've read a few reports where people took between 15-18mg and became concerned with how fast their heart rates were.

All I'm saying is just remember... this stuff is chemically very similar to 5-MeO-DiPT and the pharmacology hints at it being a lot like 5-MeO-DiPT orally with more of a longer-lasting 5-MeO-DMT type effect when its smoked.

Needless to say, both of those two chemicals need to be done cautiously and responsibly, so I'd imagine this one isn't any different, especially given the reports that have come in.
 
Whats a good starting dose for this 5-meo-mipt? I was think ing in the 6-7 mg range? What do you guys think?
 
patte4dm said:
Whats a good starting dose for this 5-meo-mipt? I was think ing in the 6-7 mg range? What do you guys think?
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3.5 wait ~40mins to see how it effects you then take another 3.5. I found 7mg to be one hell of a soothing rush. compairable to the body high from mushrooms.
 
I've yet to take it to 7mg, I think I will soon though...glad you liked it Youkai!

How was the energy on this chemical (pretty upbeat?)?

peace!
 
samadhi_smiles said:
I've yet to take it to 7mg, I think I will soon though...glad you liked it Youkai!

How was the energy on this chemical (pretty upbeat?)?

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Beisdes wherre I told you about the house being raided while @ ~1h15m into it it was blissful!

to give a brief snapses of the effects.


I took 3.5mg originaly, deffinatly tasted liek a giant blast of DMT, I waited for about 30-40mins and only noticed alil bit anxious feeling, I noted prob from never have taken the drug befor. Then I desided to take teh second half of the 3.5 totaly 7mgs in total. waited about 20min and then felt tons of calmness rush over me in a forceful yet soothing rush of energy, this was all about 1.15hs into the experiences then I was raided, so I had to stop taking notes and talk to police.

I saw a cop walk into the rgarage adn another behind him saw me looking at him while I was stading in teh sun room with a galss of wine. I put the wine down, ran to the room I had aquired for a few days and hid all the chemicals I stupidly just had sitting out.

for the hour-2 hours the cops had me there while they searched for soem inconsiderate little prick who was staying at this house as a fugitive (and the night befor complained to me how fucked up I got him when he STOLE some ungodly un messured dose of 2c-b from me (in which he will never now be able to pay me for as I will be calling the police if I ever see him again))


But anyways, I felt realy realy realy realy realy calm talking to the police, I got my age wrong when they asked but cleared that up with valid information such as SS and DOB. It felt ALOT like a low dose mushroom trip without any mind expantion and all body, REALY REALY REALY strong tryptamine rush/body sensation, actualy I would compair it to the after shock of a DMT blast, where your body just feels fucking fantastic! The police stoped me from commenting from ~630-745 but what I just explained was pretty much the effects, strong rushing sensations of a tryptamine body high, excelant material, I started ~521, felt effects by 6:00 but from ~7:30-8:45 I started to get a "blown out the back of the ehad" type of feeling, where I could deffinatly feel some mind metifestations could coem into oplay at a higher dose, but thatw as around the time I thought it would be safe to try alil dank on top.


Over all I love it, I am in teh process of trying to aquire more then just a sample as I could easily use this as a music enhancer for shows and eaily find use in communication on camping trips. This is grade A. material. I saw much more applications for this compound then I did on my re-investigations into 2c-e. but as Iv commented to you befor, this is more the likely do to my ability to get LSD.



REaly good dose @7mg.



OH yeah, seeing as I had the making of a few life sentences in the hosue while it was raided and I felt just fantastic, I would say yes, it has quite the upbeat energy to it.
 
I find these 5-10mg doses never did anything for me, I started with 30-40mg (the street dose was 20mg/10$ of 99.9% pure 5meomipt) and found pretty intense visuals with a warm, rushy body buzz. I've done upto 100mg and the only side effect was getting incredibly fucked, and my body got warm.
 
Ungoliath said:
I find these 5-10mg doses never did anything for me, I started with 30-40mg (the street dose was 20mg/10$ of 99.9% pure 5meomipt) and found pretty intense visuals with a warm, rushy body buzz. I've done upto 100mg and the only side effect was getting incredibly fucked, and my body got warm.
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100mgs sounds incredibly stupid. 7mg was VERY noticable in effects. and visuals, I dont think this one is for visuals, if you need sucha high dose to get visuals then Id suggest find a different compound were visuals come into play at the appropriate dose.
 
Ungoliath said:
I find these 5-10mg doses never did anything for me, I started with 30-40mg (the street dose was 20mg/10$ of 99.9% pure 5meomipt) and found pretty intense visuals with a warm, rushy body buzz. I've done upto 100mg and the only side effect was getting incredibly fucked, and my body got warm.
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I wonder if you got ahold of some of the 5-meo-mipt that was actually 4-aco-mipt? That would account for the higher doses you needed.

Did you test this batch with a color test (marquis)? It should give off a dark inky black reaction with marquis (that takes quite awhile - about 20 mins to fully develop).
 
I somehow doubt that the 5-MeO-MiPT you got on the street was really what it was claimed to be. A standard dose of 20mg? That's silly (not saying you're silly, but that it's a silly/stupid dose to start with). Plus, this stuff doesn't do a whole lot for visuals. I use it as an enhancer, and have yet to get any visuals from it.
 
Just a note I got quite distinct and fragile visuals on a low dose of 3mg (iirc).

It was tested as definitely being at least a 5-meo-chemical.
 
Why cant you people understand that these doses are normal, the average street dose was 20mg of 3-2[2-(isopropylmethylamino)ethyl]-5-methoxyindole HCL thats the sticker from the pack. Definitly had the candyish taste of a 5-meo substance WHEN SMOKED! eaten, tasted like bigfoots dick.
The doses were personally weighed, 20mg hits from the bag purchased from an RC source who no longer exists because he got sick.
It is what it claimed to be, no one in my city who ever purchased it did less then 20mg, at that point its a very rushy, warm, body buzz with a touch of mushroom like visuals. I dont care anymore weither or fuck you guys believe me or not, I just cant comprehend how you guys can do these little 3-5mg doses and even get a buzz? I sure as fuck cant and im assured mines pure.
Also, out of the many, many people who did one of these 20mg doses (20mg 5meomipt +80mg dextrose placed in a 0 gel cap). No one got too fucked or od'd, many infact feinded for more, and did 40,60, even upto 120mg doses. Its a very safe chemical, I remember at a point I didnt even bother to weigh it, i'd just eyeball out small piles about the size of my index fingernail and munch, or throw it in my pyrex tube and vaporize it, tastes like gummy candy.
 
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I have never once advocated uses that high samadhi, i've simply been explaining the effects of higher doses then you guys commonly report. I dont know whats so hard to understand about that, Im trying to get the point across that among drug users who arnt hardcore computer nerds (which BL i would say is only about 5 %) dont know all this Pihkal and tihkal stuff, they dont know these suggested doses, so they start finding their own, as I did.
These people dont spend all day on the computer researching effects, they find drugs, they want to get high, so they keep trying dose after dose till they find a dose that makes them as high as they want.
Now, does this make sense to anyone?

You people need to understand that you are the severe minority. People who eat a 1/10th of a gram of 5meomipt arnt the people who sit on there computer and post on a drug forum all day arguing about if 7mg of 5meomipt is twice as intense as 5mg. They do trial and error. They tried low doses, and they feel that much would get them fucking twacked. so thats what they choose to do.
Im doing you guys a favor by reporting what happens when you do the high end doseages of these drugs, so now you guys know if someone every accidently weights up 20mg instead of 2mg on a scale and injests it, there not going to die, they dont need to go to a hospital, they can sit back and ride out the high.
These are research chemicals, I offer you all research, weither you take it or not its your choice, dismiss it and you could make a big mistake if something comes up down the road.
 
i wouldnt want to go above 15 mg with this one,the higher doses are extremely unpleasant and mindfucking in a spiritually useless way(and this is coming from a guy who LOVES 5-meo-dmt smoked)....i like lower doses of this chem,around 12 mg or so,and they are plenty strong for me...this one isnt one to push imo
 
orbital_forest said:
i wouldnt want to go above 15 mg with this one,the higher doses are extremely unpleasant and mindfucking in a spiritually useless way(and this is coming from a guy who LOVES 5-meo-dmt smoked)....i like lower doses of this chem,around 12 mg or so,and they are plenty strong for me...this one isnt one to push imo
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I somewhat agree, high doses tend to move people into god complexes......its not isolated occourences either if an unperienced person does say 60mg they're going to have one of those earth shattering im god everything is here for me trips. pretty consistantly aswell.

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