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The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-MiPT Thread

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My pet salamander has possibly obtained 100 mg of this particular research chemical, 5-meo-mipt. From what she tells me, I understand she hasn't done any drugs at all for nearly 10 years, and even then, it was LSD about five times over several months.

What sort of dose do you recommend she start with? She thinks possibly 3 mg... and staying in the whole day/night in her pleasant apartment with some music. (She has a 0.001 gram scale, so it would really be more like 2-4 mg with the uncertainty factor.)

She doesn't want to freak out since she's so unfamiliar with these experiences lately. :) Any suggestions?
 
Your idea sounds very good already! Make sure you have good music. A trusted companion will be fun to talk to, but you'll be just fine alone as well and perhaps it would be better your first time. I find the chemical to enhance my social skills and desire to communicate, though. Be aware that the come-up can be unpleasant but it will dissipate around an hour in. It isn't always unpleasant but it definitely was for me the first few times I used it. It's very minor compared to LSD's anxiety, for comparison. Smoking marijuana around the 1 hour point will potentiate the trip and will make the transition to the full-on state easier and more rapid.

Once you're all the way up, it'll be great. It's a very euphoric and somewhat psychedelic chemical which doesn't really get in the way of your body or mind at all. Enjoy! :)
 
5-meo-mipt w/ MDMA

What do you guys find the best way to mix these two? What time periods?
I've researched moxy at 4mg up to 22mg. Amazing how different several
of the 20mg experiences were. Some very low intensity, others some of the
most sweeping visuals. I was thinking 14mg moxy, and then an hour or two later 100mg mdma. Or would I be better to do mdma first then moxy
 
I took 8 mgs about 2 hours ago and still feel like I'm floating around like a flimsy floob.

Impressed.
 
I dunno about hiking but... I took 5mg last weekend (and just a little cannabis and k) and rode the local bike trails for 15-20 miles, it was nice. The combo definitely increased my stamina, 5-meo-mipt by itself would probably be quite decent for hiking too.
 
Moxy for hiking? No,it lacks the mystical and visual altogether.I'd rather go with your original suggestion of 4-AcO-DMT;i I once hiked on Miprocin and it bordered on the cosmicical,though the setting was perfect as well.It was only on 8mg (I'm sensitive,plus was on 1500mg Aniracetam at the time,reached about a +2 so).I will always remember that hike!
 
morninggloryseed said:
What do you guys think about a small dosage for hiking? Perhaps 4 or 5mg? Is it very stoning?
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If by that you mean "museum level" ++ kind of effects, then YES. My friends and I agree that the entire 5-MeO-MiPT experience seems to always be a ++ (there is never really a "peak").

Although it is a good idea to start with a low dose, both myself and others have noted that 5-MeO-MiPT actually feels "dirty" at low and high doses, but of course, you can't climb a ladder from the 5th step ;).
 
I find Moxy to be a VERY stimulating substance, maybe perfect for something such as hiking. I also noticed that herb had a unique and quite pleasant effect when it Synergized with the 5-M-MIPT. Rather than feeling relaxed and giggly like I normally do, I felt a sudden and intense stimulation. Not only was my body up and ready to go (it was 3 am), but my mind burst with fascinating new ideas and thought patterns. I stayed up the whole night unable to fall asleep, but I didn't fall into a speedy-depression like sometimes happens with mushrooms or especially MDMA.

Bringing a bit of Cannib and Moxy on a hiking trip sounds like a fantastic idea. I don't imagine you'll seen many visuals, but if you take enough to stimulate your thoughts then I think it could really be a strong enthogenic expirience, at least a very pleasant one.

EDIT: Does anyone think there'll be a cross tolerance with 4-Ace-Dipt a day after consuming the Moxy?
 
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Personally I have used it a number of times for hikes and bike riding. At the level you're suggesting it's really more of an enhancing substance rather than a classicly psychedelic chemical. I have found that it increases my stamina a lot as well as my resistance to pain (or the lack of care for its perception at least). I once took a spill on my bike on 6mg of 5-MeO-MiPT (unrelated to the drug, I swear!) and suddenly found myself in the air, falling headfirst onto some small sharp rocks from a high point. But time seemed to nearly stop and I was able to very calmly and calculatingly adjust my position in the air from headfirst to thigh first, and I ended up gashing my thigh pretty bad, indeed! We had to abort the bike ride and get me home to bandage it up because it was bleeding pretty heavily. But throughout I remained very calm, calmer than my fiance and friends in fact, and I wasn't minding the pain (until later). That was almost a year ago, and I still have a really nasty scar on my thigh. It's large and colored and solid because of all the internal scar tissue.

My point with this gory story is that I was glad I had taken the 5-MeO-MiPT because it helped me to deal with the situation in a much more positive way. I mean, despite the accident I still look back on that day as one of my favorite summer bike rides, because somehow the entire experience had been infused with this bubbling, energetic warmth. I find that this is somehow what moxy does.

I like using it for nature interaction or social interaction because it lubricates my mind and gets me feeling empathic to a considerable extent. It's not overtly psychedelic nor is it dramatic, but it's a really beautiful substance. One of my favorites, really.
 
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A quick return to baseline or a dragged out fuzziness?

I like the chems that are quite intense but leave one quickly in a state of complete lucidity (able to go about one's work and other activities). I haven't exactly found the appropriate tryptamine for this (except DMT that one shines!).

Opinions in this regard about moxy?

Anymore reports about smoking the freebase? That sounds interesting.
 
Yep, I totally agree with Xorkoth's assesment (though I don't know about the pain thing).

SS: 5-MeO-MiPT comes close to this, yes, although I personally seem to be uneasy with it. It is mild mentally speaking but there seems to be an insidious body-load lurking around, just waiting to lash out...

I find that DiPT and its Acetate ester are the best in this regard.
 
samadhi_smiles said:
A quick return to baseline or a dragged out fuzziness?

I like the chems that are quite intense but leave one quickly in a state of complete lucidity (able to go about one's work and other activities). I haven't exactly found the appropriate tryptamine for this (except DMT that one shines!).

Opinions in this regard about moxy?

Anymore reports about smoking the freebase? That sounds interesting.
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For me, it's a smooth return to baseline, but not too quick. It lasts a good 6 hours, 3 or 4 at high levels.

You and I seem fundamentally different in some ways regarding desired psychedelic experiences, however. When I started tripping, I was just like you. Over the past year and a half, I have at times used psychedelics very often, probably shockingly so by most of your standards. Over this time I seem to developed a difference in my body and mind as to how I react to them. I very rarely, if ever, get a negative body load anymore, on anything I take (I dropped several substances, like 5-MeO-AMT, 5-MeO-DiPT, and a few others because they feel nasty to my body), on anything. I also can't recall the last time I had significant coming-up anxiety. I of course still very much love the dramatic, mind-shattering, terrifying doses of psychedelics, but most of the times I use them anymore it's more enhancement of some sort of activity or for enhancement of writing/introspection (to help me with my writing and artistic ideas). For that, I use substances that I feel are enhancing, mentally, physically, or both. I like those substances to last as long as possible, because frankly, it's nothing but pleasure for me when I use them right, intellectual and/or physical. That's the reason I was starting to use them so often, because there was nothing there to make me feel like I needed or wanted to take a break, and my personality type is moderately addictive.

These days, it's very easy to me to transfer between psychedelic mindstate and sobriety, because I don't usually feel like there's much of a difference except in extreme psychedelic states. I mean, hell, my two favorite enhancers overall are AMT and DOC, which both last a very long time indeed. I can interact with the world normally on both (at reasonable levels), or at least mostly normally with a bit of increased self-consciousness, but also with an impressively luibricated mind.

This is the reason I have slowed down considerably, because it was like, why was I taking them so often if it wasn't making a difference? Marijuana went that route years and years ago. It would be quite silly of me to put psychedelics into the same category!
 
Has anyone tryed 5-meo-mipt in combo with 4-aco-dmt? I was thinking that smoking a little moxy after the 4-aco-dmt peak might be like a candy flip. What do you think? Any dose suggestions???

-Peace
 
Yes I've smoked Moxy. Usually about 5mg at a time on top of some bud. I wouldn't really call it a trip report though. Smoked, it almost feels like a cross between coke and mdma. You get a stimulent rush and an mdma like body high. It hits in a couple seconds, and rises in strength for about 5-10 min. Then you feel like your comming off of a roll for the next couple hours. It was in salt form, It smokes pretty good in hcl form. I don't see any reason to convert it to freebase.

-Peace
 
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