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The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-DMT Thread - First Launch

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I found putting 5-meo-dmt freebase under my tongue works fine, seems to be similar to snorting but without the annoying burn/etc..

Takes maybe ~5 minutes or so for it to be 'absorbed', maybe 10...

I don't know why but this stuff, almost seems like, an 'instant anti-depressant' or mood-lifter for me. I was always a little afriad of trying this stuff, or after seeing a lot of 'bad trip' reports.. but every time i've tried it, even at low doses, all it does is make me happy and feel like dancing around (when a higher dose is wearing off, or if i got a low dose), this is like my perfect 'club drug'! I inhaled a nice hit (not enough to breakthrough, just enough to get me, "in the groove") immediately before getting out of my car and walking into a club, and it was great, although I wish I could have it last several hours... (but even after it wears off, I am still, "in the groove" long after which is nice) - for some reason it seems a lot like MDMA type drugs to me.. but, this is just me. =D
 
It's been about four months since my first 5-meo trip and I'm still finding new insights in the experience. I had a terrible experience and felt completely drained of every happy and loving sensation for the rest of the day. Now, though I still have very mild "flashbacks" of the experience, I feel much happier and am much calmer than I was before the experience. I think the bad trip was a reflection of my self conciousness and it has helped me become more confident. I didn't realize this until yesterday.

I want to go back once more but I don't think I'm ready yet. Just felt like sharing...
 
How much 5-MeO-DMT will usually produce OEVs and visual distortion? I've read that people taking as much as 15mg had perfectly normal vision during the experience
 
As low as a dose is, it can always produce visuals, granted you're in the right mindset, circumstances, all kinds of things. For me, I only need a mere 5 mg smoked to produce visual activity, snorted approximately 2 mg's higher. The visuals for me can range from subtle movements, to full-blown fractal hallucinations, filling my entire vision.

Ofcourse adding a substance will greatly enhance the trip, including visuals. You'd have to find a good one for this, not everything will be enjoyable with 5-MeO. I'd highly recommend trying it on AMT (if you like AMT that is :)) or Ecstacy. Wouldn't think of mixing it with the "stronger" chems, such as Mushrooms or LSD. 5-MeO-DMT is one incredible drug, wich I have great respect for, everybody should have..
 
quitequiet said:
I've read that people taking as much as 15mg had perfectly normal vision during the experience
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Hehe, they they either had a terrible technique for smoking it, or were using degraded/bunk material. Most folks find 7mg to 10mg (vaporized) plenty for full effects. I find 8mg just right, and 10mg too much.

Like many other psychedelics that are active in small amounts, 5-methoxy-DMT seems to have a sharp dose/response curve to where just a few extra milligrams can be the difference between pure bliss and way too much. 2C-E and 2C-T-21 are others where just an extra 2mg to 4mg can be the difference between the perfect dosage and way too much.
 
Yep, how you smoke it is just as important as how much. I personally find that 10mg is usually plenty. However, I have witnessed people taking up to 20 mg of the same batch and not trip any harder. While I don't have a dedicated freebase pipe, I have a small glass pipe which is used exclusivly for 5-meo-dmt. I used a screen with a small bit of smoking material on it for a base. I then place the 5meo right on top. I used to place another screen over the 5meo to spread the heat around, but as my smoking technique has improved I no longer do this.
As for snorting, I've tried it twice and don't recommend it. The drip ruins it for me. This is how I first tried it and ended up being a terrifying experience.
I can also personally verify that orally mixing rue extract with 5-meo-dmt is very intense and "toxic" feeling. The beginning of the trip is comprised of violent puking and then dry heaving accompanied with sweats and a pounding heart. I DON'T RECOMMEND this, I concider myself lucky to have survived the last time I did this combination.
Smoking 5-meo-dmt while on yage can be very rewarding though. It doesn't take much.... a mg or two is usually enough to send me back out or jump start the trip. I wouldn't take an maoi just so I could smoke 5meo though, its cheap enough and intense enough on its own....
 
Welp, I just did the dreaded "eyeballing a dose" of this stuff, and all I can say is, the body load completely killed it for me.

I don't know how long ago I took it (Forgot to check the clock) but I took a VERY SMALL amount, like 3 or 4 of the smaller crystals in the bag, basically. While I realize this isn't an advisable way of measuring, (please don't preach, I've read it all) I was fairly sure this would be a safe dose.

Anyway, yeah, the body load completely drowned out any other effects, except for the slowdown of time, which is still in effect. I'm sweaty, and shakey, and my heart was racing for a while right after I took it, but it has since slowed down.

Overall, at this dose, my opinion is: What's the point?

I mean, I don't think it would be worth it to take a larger dose for more effects, because the body load would absolutely kill me.

Edit: On a sidenote, I played my guitar for like 10 minutes after i started "peaking", and it was surreal how much time slowed down.. it was like I had an eternity in between beats to improv what my next note would be, heh. Pretty cool, but def. not worth the body load.
 
Actually a larger dose can make all the difference. There is a "window" with 5-MeO-DMT. And either you smoke enough to go through that window, or you don't get enough and you are stuck in the body to experience some of the physical side-effects. Trust me, a full-blown 5-MeO-DMT trip is beautiful, and takes you so far out of your body that there basically "is not body" to experience any side-effects. I too have experienced this unpleasant body-load at lower dosages. It is not the same when you take a full dosage.
 
I have been experimenting with 5-MeO-DMT over the past month. I tried smoking it at 10, 15, and 20 mg. I also insufflated about 5 mg divided into 4 lines taken gradually so as to decrease the pain.

Aside from the fact that I am a tryptamine hardhead (and funny enough, very sensitive to Phenethylamines ;)), I actually got very little from this material at the abovementioned smoked doses. I always have a feeling of a rush of intense preassure as if my body is about to implode. I get almost no visual distortion (maybe a few quick ripples, but thats all) and no thought effects (well, other than a constant idea of disgust at what I am experiencing). A very marked effect though, is the intense tinnitus. It may be interesting to add that I once smoked risiduals in my pipe (~5 mg?) while plateauing on 40mg of insufflated DPT (which was pretty light for me) and I was again dissapointed: I felt the "pressure" come and go, and returned to DPT space as if nothing happened.

Meo_dmster's note about "break through" doses gave me new hopes for this chemical (smoked).

As for the time I insufflated it, I actually had not expected any effect, however, in about 30 minutes, I was at a +++. There where interesting trains of throught and very noticeable tracers/trailers (and the signature 5-meo Tinnitus). This lasted for about 30 more minutes. There was minimal nasal discomfort due to spacing out the doses, however there was enough to hint that this would be pure torture to snort all at once.

What I do like about this compound though, is the after-effects, which where consistent in all of the above trials: I would always be left in a very good mood for the rest of the day, and I find it almost unnaturally easy to bring back burried past memories in an extremely vivid manner.

Very intreguing compound. I will be experimenting more with it in the future.
 
Jamshyd said:
I find it almost unnaturally easy to bring back burried past memories in an extremely vivid manner.
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exactly, this compound has brought me back some very old memories, some even go back to early childhood. Things i would never have remembered if it werent for this substance. I consider this one of the most rewarding (after)effects of 5-MeO-DMT, although i never saw anyone talk about it. doesn't seem like a common effect :)
 
in laymans terms.... i think smoking this stuff made me perma-trip, anyone else experiencing the same?
 
Its been seven years since I experimented with 5meodmt. I remember it smelling something like burning plastic and tasting harsh plasticy. I never experienced any nausea with any of my experiences.

Basically its like some alien just shot you in the head with some kind of energy. During the 5meo blast I really dont think of much of anything or remember having thoughts. mostly a physical experience ? Theres just alot of energy flowing about my body. For me the far opposite of an semi unconscious experience. More like im 10X as conscious to the point of being intolerable. I couldn't imagine ever blacking out as some people say happens to them. A pinball machine and the elephant on ones head are both great ideas of what the experience and pressure to ones head feels like to me. Usually no visuals but also sometimes there are visuals.

Its not a recreational experience. The afterglow feels perhaps the best and is somewhat reminiscent of that warm feeling you sometimes get from drinking alcohol.

I never plan on trying it again. I'd probably advise against its use if anyone said they were going to try it to me.
 
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I find 5-MeO-DMT to be one of the most remarkable compounds with which I have experimented. For me, lower doses (5-10 milligrams) are marked by some depersonalization and lots of body energy. I find it perfect for doing body work. It seems to scan through my musculature to each point of greatest stress, throttling each until it releases, and the energy sweeps to the next point of work. In contrast to many reports, I find abundant color enhancement and some visual patterning, though it is certainly by no means as visual as DMT, LSD, psilocin, or 2C-T-7 (for me). Somewhat higher doses (15-20 milligrams) can produce a state of complete ego loss and immersion in the processes of the universe. I find the come-down from 5-MeO-DMT to be more euphoric than the peak action of many other drugs, and would not compare it to alcohol. While I have experimented with higher doses of 5-MeO-DMT, I do not find anything over 25 milligrams to be especially integretable, and I fear that doses that high are physically dangerous. I found it to make an excellent combination with LSD, but not with psilocybian mushrooms. If someone told me they were going to experiment with this stuff, I'd recommend getting good scales and having a sitter - and then I'd wish them happy traveling. Oh, I'd probably also recommend doing intense hatha yoga for about an hour prior to smoking it.
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Namaste,
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^^ Yoga/breathing does sound like a good prep for the 5-MeO experience.

Cliff, what dosages of LSD have you used in combo with 5-MeO, and what was the timing? I'm interested to try that.
 
Actually I am looking forward to smoking 5-meo-dmt while on psilocybin mushrooms. Both are favorites, by far. Nothing about 5-meo-dmt has EVER scared me.

I've smoked it while on, many different psychedelics, and they have all combined GREAT.

I saw someone else said they experience what is like 10x consciousness, i get that often, some kind of "super consciousness" where if you are moving about, doing whatever, you can put attention to where you want it, much better than an amphetamine, do tasks quicker (math), and it seems like the "frame rate" of vision (and everything else..) has increased from xHz to 10xHz (or 50x, whatever). Like adjusting your monitor refresh rate to go from 50hz, to 200hz. Its great :)

The way it allows me to stretch, get up, dance, to music, to a combination of sensory input, all how i want it and how it 'flows' and feels right.

I know on a mushroom experience as i could already tell by their similaritys, that it would mean trip sitter(s) who knew what i'm doing and that I may not respond to them for at least a little while after smoking it. Hopefully it'll be a nice sunny day as summer is near where i live, and outside in a place that would be.. well "right". %)

5-meo-dmt i've found to be a real tool, in many ways to me. I get that "this is right" feeling from that and mushrooms. Anything people created beyond what is already in plants and such, do their things and have their purpose, definitely! Nothing will come close to either of these though, which makes me want to eventually try the just plain DMT. 2C-E's got depth, so does 2C-D, but i do want to eventually get a hold of a cactus, experience mescaline and the other substance that may be in because of that, thing where the synthetics may fit into this and that hole, effect this recetptor or whatever, nothing quites does what mushrooms and 5-meo-dmt does. Maybe i'm just a tryptamine guy, i find most experiences great in self-exploration, , better chance of what i'm learning to have a positive experience in my life. For some reason most of the pea's just seem like 'toys' to tryptamines. I recently experienced pure MDA for the first time, and well, it was quite "unique" in its psychedelic effect. I've seen the potential, with 2c-t-2, 2c-e, and others. I'm interested in eventually getting some of the real thing, san pedro, peyote, whatever, to see if it has this 'connection' that only psilocin/5-meo-dmt have brought me to.

If i can 'casually' walk up to the party store laughing with my friend, on 22mg 2ce, then i guess i need to re-adjust that dose, higher (we were laughing at the fact that on that particular day, we could not ingest enough of anything i had, that would send us way 'out there') 2c-e is one of the best, i've seen amazing things and experienced many things on it, even at low doses, and the experiences vary one from the next. So if i ever do randomly find a uhm, peyote cactus, ready for munchin, i won't go into to it expecting anything... As for some reason I think it (guess here...!)would teach me/show me some things, in a 'similar' way, because its been around for a long time, and i just have a 'guess', i guess you could say %)

Smoking any size hit, measured of course, of 5-meo-dmt, i could feel i could smoke it in most other chemical's presence (me tripping already i suppose) and all it would bring to me is peace, even 1mg, it almost "sobers" me up in some ways. Its like my preferred benzo if i'm having a bad time, which in my experience i rarely have, if ever, lately (i guess i only mean 'aborting' a good trip for a good reason, other than that i'm not sure i believe in a bad trip for myself, they are all good at the end!). I can be tripping on 2c-e, Iprocin, ...whatever.. the smoke comes out tasting like almost something good..sweet...pleasant. And I just experience it, whether its mixing and doing its visual thingamabop with which other chem i ingested, i can view what i want, or just take everything in, all beautiful.
 
i think this stuff feels too much like dxm at high doses, very toxic. 15mg and up is just like a high dose dxm trip too me, the feeling of brain cells being FRIED. As MGS put it though, 7-8mg is perfect for me, maybe twice a year at the most. Otherwise I've noticed some nasty side effects worse than dxm in some ways, mostly related to memory and paranoia but that could be due to my dxm usage several years ago. overall I think its a dirty drug that just fucks with how you think for 20minutes or longer, like a lot of other nasty chems.
 
Hey MGS,

I've used 5-MeO-DMT quite often, though I never had a vaporiser or a pipe that worked properly for it, so I was always losing quite a bit. Thankfully a friend of mine brought me a glass test tube that works beautifully. 10mg of 5-MeO-DMT is bliss. It's a difficult thing to describe, everything is normal, but it's not, a complete body/mind orgasm might describe it. I don't enjoy most tryptamines nearly as much as phenthylamines generally, but I have an on going love affair with 5-MeO-DMT. I'm not sure about any real dissociative effect, I've never noticed a similarity to DXM, ketamine or PCP. At low doses it seems to make my whole body very tight, difficulty breathing etc. But at 10-15 mg, there's none of that... I read one of Murple's reports on Erowid, about 5-MeO-DMT and MDMA, and I am giddy with anticipation to try that combination, typically I am not one to combine different substances, as I enjoy psychedelics like my father enjoys his fine wine. The different flavors of each are perfect on their own. I'm not one for insufflation, mostly due to my low pain threshold, I used to love snorting things, but perhaps I've grown out of it a bit. The one problem with 5-MeO-DMT is the length, which is why insufflation might prove to be a rewarding venture. The duration is nice, because one really doesn't need to set aside a whole day for an experience. Unfortunately though every time that I feel that I am about to make a breakthrough with myself, or find something in the experience it begins to disappear. Perhaps next time I will turn a tape recorder on and record my thoughts. I am still very glad that 5-MeO-DMT is still around.


My 2 Cents.


Triazolam.
 
14mg 5-MeO-DMT + alprazolam

This was kind of a weird and great combination.

I never conciously decided to try it, but recently I acquired a couple xanax, completely unintentionally, and I've been slowly using it up, recreationally I'm ashamed to admit. This evening I was on 0.5mg of xanax, and decided spur of the moment to smoke a 14mg bowl of 5-MeO-DMT that I had had sitting around for a few weeks, after chickening out last time.

This was almost like a different drug. I suddenly saw exactly what folks talk about when they describe the 5-MeO trip as semi-orgasmic bliss. I was literally writhing on the floor in sensual pleasure. A tiny part of me was still being mentally overwhelmed by the drug, but for the most part I was just moaning to myself in ecstasy.

I'm not sure I would call it an addictive, crack-like high, but it was definitely pleasurable, and it's at least conceivable to me now that 5-MeO-DMT plus some kind of mild sedative could be used by some as a club drug, as at least one person on this board has said. Although I sincerely hope not.

After the rush, it was more than a little like a roll for about 20 minutes. I was at peace with everything, and afraid of nothing. Almost like dissociative euphoria.
 
Snorting this is nice, despite the fact that mine acquired the taste of lemon hard candies (awful, acidic, ugh, I stored it in a tin that used to have lemon candy in it, and there were a few crumbs), and even changed color more yellowish.

I would love to do harmaline/some MAOI + oral, but I'm on an SSRI, so no MAOIs for me. =/

Has anyone here done this orally w/ MAOI?
 
After my recent experience, I think I might like to try it orally someday. But I've never read anything really good about the oral effects. Lots of nausea and hypertension. On the (sort of) plus side, it does sound very different from any other tryptamine experience.
 
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