Any experiences with combined oral doses with methylone? I get mild to strong euphoria and tactile enhancement with hints of visual trippyness on 40-60mg of my current batch of 5-meo-dalt and normally take 200mg of methylone as an initial attack dose. I'm considering 30mg 5-meo-dalt with 150mg methylone bombed together as a start - but wondering if they'd potentiate each other at all, or if I could stick with my normal methylone dose without risks of cardiovascular stress or over stimulation? There was mention that these two combine well earlier in the thread but no dosage details that I could find.
The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-DALT Thread
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RandomGuy123
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Going to smoke my jwh+dalt blend, whilist tripping on 2ct2. Will let you guys know how it goes.
Yes. Be wary the comeup can be overwhelming if you are not expecting it. It's a completely different drug in a this range.
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@ penpal,your quite right i clearly do not have a clue what i`m talking about,if you read through my post carefully you would have understood that i was trying to find out.Usually if a drug is very good then people use it a lot and it becomes popular,from what i have observed this doen`t seem to be the case with 5-meo-dalt.
As i stated my view,not my conclusion,that i presumed the drug must be shit as many of the reports are hit and miss.Quite clearly i also emphasised that i have not used the drug and haven`t done so because of the lack of use and overwhelming positive feedback.
Yes this does seem to be a novel compound and maybe worth trying,but i would like to see more reports that would make me want to try it rather than be writting this.
I just like to do my homework before spending my time and money on experimenting with drugs,so that i can minimise my chances of being dissapointed.
As i stated my view,not my conclusion,that i presumed the drug must be shit as many of the reports are hit and miss.Quite clearly i also emphasised that i have not used the drug and haven`t done so because of the lack of use and overwhelming positive feedback.
Yes this does seem to be a novel compound and maybe worth trying,but i would like to see more reports that would make me want to try it rather than be writting this.
I just like to do my homework before spending my time and money on experimenting with drugs,so that i can minimise my chances of being dissapointed.
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Ehhhh, but I think I can handle my 2ct2, is there any real dangers of combining the two like chemical reactions that can be deadly? If not I don't mind taking a baby hit of the blend whilst coming up.
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honeslty man just chill, and let things flow, but most likely by the time you read this the trip will be over.
Anyway, how was it? Do you think there is some synergy with dmaa, or was it just higher dose what caused that?
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well with 5-meo-dalt I dont think its much to worry about because even when it does happen , it has a much shorter duration than lots of other psychs.
I think everything should be prepared correctly at the beginning including safe place and proper dose (s&s). Which may be hard if taken too often. Anyway, that is what I do to minimize negative impact and then I leave myself to whatever comes (often death) and don't fight it even if it is really bad. I found fighting it is very often not the right way and accepting what's comming can lead to much better places. Simply, no freaking out.
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Hi guys!
I have tried 5-MeO-DALT for the first time yesterday. 35-40 mg orally. The experience was ok but short lasting, everything was over after around 1:10 hours. Also the taste refused to go away for hours, maybe I'll try a capsule next time.
My head felt a lot like on LSA, but I was always very conscious. No "weird" thoughts, no excitement from music or things like this. There were some visuals though, like everything in sight began to move a bit and changed the perspective when I looked at something.
I think the trip lacked some of the elements I mentioned above to be better (or fuller), maybe higher doses or combinations will do the trick. However, I felt pretty good and things like chatting online were fun and no problem.
I should do some more experiments with it. Drinking a beer after said 1:10 hours was no problem and got me drunk a bit like usual.
Hi guys!I have tried 5-MeO-DALT for the first time yesterday. 35-40 mg orally. The experience was ok but short lasting, everything was over after around 1:10 hours. Also the taste refused to go away for hours, maybe I'll try a capsule next time.
My head felt a lot like on LSA, but I was always very conscious. No "weird" thoughts, no excitement from music or things like this. There were some visuals though, like everything in sight began to move a bit and changed the perspective when I looked at something.
I think the trip lacked some of the elements I mentioned above to be better (or fuller), maybe higher doses or combinations will do the trick. However, I felt pretty good and things like chatting online were fun and no problem.
I should do some more experiments with it. Drinking a beer after said 1:10 hours was no problem and got me drunk a bit like usual.
I wouldn't call it an ego death, it might be something else. I mean real death caused by the drug sending you out of this world forever. This may come with higher doses of stronger psychedelics and may seem to be very real. I think this is one of the worst things anyone can meet with drugs, but it may be very inspiring when hadled properly.
I meant another "death". Not that real one, when you really die and don't get back. I meant the death that you experience on the psychedelic chemical. It might be even much more real in terms of experience than the real death.
LD50 for a lot of substances is really very high, but there are other dangers, such as combining sustances or some kind of allergy. Or uncontrolled puking, jumping out of the window and a lot of others.
LD50 for a lot of substances is really very high, but there are other dangers, such as combining sustances or some kind of allergy. Or uncontrolled puking, jumping out of the window and a lot of others.
I was reacting to the "freaking out" problem. I didn't mean the state often experienced on mushrooms when you lose your ego and become "we" or even "it". That is ego loss but not ego death I think. Then there is another state (often K) when I am losing everything I have till I have nothing (can be very unpleasant) and then, when lost everything, often continues to some higher level of mind or some very rich realities. It may happen a lot of times within one experience. I would call that "ego death". But still this is not a "death". By term death I mean experiencing dying with full realization of what consequences this have, including my mother, wife and children suffering, wasted life and thousands of other things that don't let me die. There is no any "break through" to some better state, there is just the death and me. And that is the most difficult state of mind regarding "freaking out" IME.
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It mixed well with 2c-e.
On the peak of a 50mg oral 5-MeO-DALT trip I decided to snort 20mgs of the Ethyl. The nature of the trip changed almost immediately after ingesting the 2c-e. My surroundings began to swirl together as the burn set in. For 10 mins or so I sat restless in my chair as my minds thought process was beginning to accelerate. As I rose from my chair i felt a euphoric rush as the pain in my nasal cavity subsided. I decided to make my way towards the couch and laydown. Walking was pretty difficult at this point as the 2c-e fully kicked in. When I made it to my comfy cushions eventually it felt so amazing. The rooms walls were changing colors and i was pretty astounded by the intensity of the experience. When I closed my eyes i began to go into a trance like state, that i was in for a few hours. During that time I remember some bits and pieces where I was projecting my consciousness through the universe in a beam of light, lol. What a wacky trip.
Party party!
I finally got to try this in a party environment, a full-on trance party at Hilltop, Vagator, Goa with Hallucinogen/Shpongle, Hux flux and other psytrance veterans performing. A group of us took 30mg each in capsules around 7.00 pm and hit the dance area. Two of us were experienced at this dose, one semi-experienced (his second time) and the fourth friend had never tried it before, but as he is a bit of a hard head I didn't think it would hit him too hard. In fact after about 30 minutes he had to find somewhere to sit down, then lie down and he was floored for the next 20 minutes claiming to see shooting stars and everything wiggling around him. The guy who had tried it before had done so in a quiet home environment late at night and he said that this was totally different. My partner and I didn't experience experience a hard come up but rather a gentle switch in reality, heightened by our friend's description of what he was seeing. After he had recovered enough to stand up again we spent our time between the dance area and the chill out zones. It wasn't particularly energizing and I actually preferred watching the action to being part of it. Some more friends arrived and assumed that we were on mdma due to the goofy smiles and time spent staring at the fluorescent paint on the palm trees. We all experience time distortion where we were convinced that it was much later than it actually was and the experience seemed to last longer than it had previously which I put down to its shared nature and the party environment. When I turned in six hours after taking it i was still getting CEV, but of an unusual kind. Not the cartoons I normally see but realistic images from the previous day which were distorting and morphing in front of me - I much prefer the cartoons!
Apart from the possibility of a hard come up this is a great party drug, but since most people at Goan trance parties are off their faces on something or other even that can be handled. The friend who was trying it for the first time compared it to the low dose liquid acid prevalent in Goa.
I finally got to try this in a party environment, a full-on trance party at Hilltop, Vagator, Goa with Hallucinogen/Shpongle, Hux flux and other psytrance veterans performing. A group of us took 30mg each in capsules around 7.00 pm and hit the dance area. Two of us were experienced at this dose, one semi-experienced (his second time) and the fourth friend had never tried it before, but as he is a bit of a hard head I didn't think it would hit him too hard. In fact after about 30 minutes he had to find somewhere to sit down, then lie down and he was floored for the next 20 minutes claiming to see shooting stars and everything wiggling around him. The guy who had tried it before had done so in a quiet home environment late at night and he said that this was totally different. My partner and I didn't experience experience a hard come up but rather a gentle switch in reality, heightened by our friend's description of what he was seeing. After he had recovered enough to stand up again we spent our time between the dance area and the chill out zones. It wasn't particularly energizing and I actually preferred watching the action to being part of it. Some more friends arrived and assumed that we were on mdma due to the goofy smiles and time spent staring at the fluorescent paint on the palm trees. We all experience time distortion where we were convinced that it was much later than it actually was and the experience seemed to last longer than it had previously which I put down to its shared nature and the party environment. When I turned in six hours after taking it i was still getting CEV, but of an unusual kind. Not the cartoons I normally see but realistic images from the previous day which were distorting and morphing in front of me - I much prefer the cartoons!
Apart from the possibility of a hard come up this is a great party drug, but since most people at Goan trance parties are off their faces on something or other even that can be handled. The friend who was trying it for the first time compared it to the low dose liquid acid prevalent in Goa.
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well I had a great post and it said to reload and log in again and I lost it.
5MeO-DALT is NOT in TIHKAL, it is in Shulgin's new book which is AFAIK so far unpublished. There is a Youtube clip of him talking about 5MeO-DALT though and plenty of excerpts reproduced which describe the synth and effects.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijXkk4OLDpk
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