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The Big & Dandy 5-IT / 5-API Thread

I doubt this.

5-API is nothing like a dirty stimulant with urge to redose. It's the complete opposite, no desire to redose, no compulsive behaviour, no comedown - an afterglow, instead.
 
Vitamin B 17 ? isn't that the hydrogen-cyanide producing agent which is supposed to destroy the mitochondria in cancer cells a little bit faster than in healthy cells ?

to my knowledge cancer cells turned off their mitochondria anyway (see 'warburg hypothesis'), so it won't hurt them much.

i wonder that it helped you.

It's a natural substance which locks in cyanide with another molecule which only looks for cancer cells (The cancer cells are the only cells which have this certain enzyme, so this makes B17 harmless, as it cannot harm your healthy cells. It only releases the cyanide at the cancer cell) It will nourish your healthy cells, while destroying cancer cells. It certainly did work for me. Why would I lie about it? lol I dont make any money from telling lies. But they do. They make billions from people getting cancer, and that is why they will lie to you and train our doctors with false studies done to make them believe this vitamin is dangerous. Wow, it just boggles my mind. It's a simple vitamin, you can get it right out of a fruit or a seed. It is not dangerous in the slightest. I used to eat the shit all day long and never even got sick. Remember, they make billions every year, so of course THEY have a reason to lie. What reason would I have for making all this up? You have to dig deeper. There are going to be some false information on the web about this substance. Keep digging, find the proof, or better yet try it yourself and you'll see it works. I remember downloading a good documentary on the substance. They had really explained and proved scientifically how the substance works. And there was no false info in that. You can connect the dots once you've seen the entire picture.

As for the 5-IT (Back on topic) You guys have made me jealous. I want some of this. Can anyone say if it's comparable to 4-FA or not? I notice the 4-FA makes me roll or gives me energy for 12 hours, but I have to redose it and sometimes add other substances with it. But it's always a clean experience. Worst side effect I ever got from 4-FA was a short headache. It's amazing stuff, as I did kinda abuse it a little and still got no bad side effects from it. But what about 5-IT? Do you prefer it over 4-fa? And has anyone combined 5-IT with m1, 4-fa, or anything of that nature? If so, how was the experience?

Glad to hear this substance isn't trippy. I cannot stand trippy substances. That is what turned me off from 6-apb after trying it, it was too trippy. I would never even think of trying AMT unless it was like a very small dose or something to combine with mdma. I can handle trippy shit if I'm already rolling when I Take it. The MDMA gives the serotonin needed to prevent a negative trip.
 
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@ King of Beans: I don't wanna go further into off-topic debates, but i know what you're talking about and i think the same as you. I'm supplementing bitter apricot seeds. I bet you read G. Edward Griffins "A World without Cancer", right? If not, do so...and so should everyone living on this planet.
 
@ King of Beans: I don't wanna go further into off-topic debates, but i know what you're talking about and i think the same as you. I'm supplementing bitter apricot seeds. I bet you read G. Edward Griffins "A World without Cancer", right? If not, do so...and so should everyone living on this planet.

I actually haven't read the book. I have known about it for ages, but just haven't read it yet. But I have studied and read many different testimonials, articles and references regarding the substance. And I've seen some scientific documentaries on it. Most importantly, I've used it myself and I knew for sure once my cancer was cured that it was the real deal. lol just thought about how funny would it be if someone just skimmed through this thread and thought it was the 5-IT which cured cancer.

I haven't tried 5-IT yet but is has been said by many that it is NOT psychedelic..

oh and what a bummer...just went to order some IT and the freakin website just stopped shipping to the US. *please not even 1 vendor detail, thank you kindly* . So I suppose I cannot get this 5-IT at all now? Still checking but most other sites are out of stock of this chemical. That goes to show this is one of the best or most rare RC's out there right now. Almost all reports on it sound excellent, and I found out about it from someone saying it was the best thing out right now.

If anyone can let me know if this can still be ordered from the US?
 
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I must say, it sounds much less nasty or bad as I thought when it first started to make appearances and elicit reactions.
 
Not at all trippy and no creative thinking, there was some mild paranoia on the comedown for about one hour, but it was good paranoia. The first two hours it feels like you've just taken a tryptamine drug. You feel stiff and yawn a lot. Then after that you're on a phenylethlamine. I mudt poing out I was getting some pain around my liver and kidney area afterwards.
 
Someone else experienced liver/kidney-area pain? I hope not ;) Wanted to give it a try tomorrow, plugging as the way to go. Zazen, you tried it yet?!? Dosage suggestions on plugging then?

1st thought about doing some 4-FA tomorrow but i'm intrigued by 5-IT, so, it's just a dosage recommendation that's missing :?
 
Come on guys, i need some info.

I thought about 50mg plugged, must be somewhere near bioavailability of 100mgs oral?!? Perhaps later on 20mg railed, if needed.
 
Someone else experienced liver/kidney-area pain?

yea I have, but didn't think it was because of that, but the days after my "binge" doing close to a gram, I got some pain, but just though it was because of all the alcohol I drink everyday and have done for over 1 year. But don't having the pain anymore and still drink as much (5-8 beers) everyday. So guess it was because of the 5-it :)
 
given my recent doctor visit and the fact that my urine specimen sample "contains enzymes sometimes indicative of kidney disease", i don't think i'll be touching this one until a few more experience reports come in.

anyone else noted any significant, or even minor kidney/liver disturbances during and/or following a 5-IT experience? sure hope not - i was really beginning to take up an interest in this compound.
 
Did another 125mg bomb last saturday while going out. It's less fun when your friends are on MDMA though: your experience becomes the opposite of theirs, time-wise. Within less then an hour they were rolling balls, while I was still on the beginning of the come-up. At the end of the night the roles reversed, I was rolling balls while they were on the come-down. But apart from that I had another great evening. I think this is my new favorite: long-lasting and clear headspace. And I still like the long come-up. I can also recommend smoking some weed with this. Especially on the peek it increases the euphoria immensely. At least for me it did.

As for redosing: I did bring an extra 40mg with me, but totally forgot about it. This should illustrate how low my need for redosing this substance is. But judging from previous posts in this tread this differs heavily per person. You can have a great roll for about 7 hours before the effects diminish. And even then you can stretch it with some weed. So if you time administration of this substance correctly you can go out and roll all night without having to redose.

I will be going to a (small) outdoor festival on July 21th and am planning to take some 5-IT again, maybe 150mg this time. The location of this festival is about 10mins walking distance from my house, so I made a deal with my girlfriend to go home directly after, smoke a joint at my place and screw each others brains out =D Really looking forward to this...
 
Sounds nice, good deal made ;)

You also got some pains in Kidney/Liver-Area? Dunno, i'm a bit pissed because i really wanted to give it a go, but since there're some recent posts about kidney pain and so on i think i'll wait a bit and look what others say.
 
@kaaskoek

your experience has certainly increased the appeal of 5-IT in my eyes. i would assume by the way you described "rolling balls" that this compound has @ least some semblance to MDxx. are you able to draw several or few similarities? and most importantly, can this chem. legitimately provide some of the magic that we know to be MDxx? i am certain they have their fair share of differences, but i wonder if, in a sea of unreliable RC's, this compound could float, or serve as a genuine substitute. doubtful, though i'll remain optimistic.
 
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So how would you rate the intensity of a dosage of 120mg? I know, you can't really compare this drug to any other, but
just use the abstract concept of "intensity". Is it more like, let's say 150-200mg methylone, or 250mg+? Just want to plan the right dosage to start with.
bump to this question also interested....

also, what about the liver/kidney pains?

howa re the tolerances to other psychedelics affected? what about 4-fa tolerance?
 
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To start off id like to note that this is my first post to this forum (lurked for a while) and that if this is out of place then i appoligise in advance.

Last week i and some friends took 5-it for the 1st time after reading through this thread.

The results where great.. euphoria + stimulation is a deffinate from this one.
About 3 hours into out trip we where pulled up by the local police department (oh joy)
Story short they searched me and found a bag of brown powder (5-it) i explained to them exactly what it was and that it was perfectly legal.
ofcourse Police being police they didnt believe me atall.. they confiscated it for testing along with one of my legal high blends. (black mamba).

I later heard from a friend that they same police approached them and when questioned about the previous incedent the police told them that they had tested the substances and that it had come back illegal.

My question - are the police bullshitting me or is it possible for 5-it to return as a false positive? :/
from the wiki page it states that 5-it is perfectly legal here in the uk so one is not sure what to think upon hearing this..

Any respoce would be appreciated.. (again if this is in the wrong place or what-not then sorry)

Laww93. :)
 
perhpas you shouldnt really be using substances in situations where police can interfere? (like driving....) also, when police confiscate a presumed drug off a person, do they just let that person go?
 
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