The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MiPT Thread - Part 1
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MagickalKat777
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This is my favorite of the 4-Hydroxy/Acetoxy compounds... The trip is absolutely out of this world. And the body load is QUITE light.
We took some pretty crazy doses of this a night after rolling and we got so fucked up it was no joke. Everyone had a blast except my friend Gavain who got scolded for being too loud by my friend Ashley and went and hid in the bath tub for an hour and then suddenly got up and left... My friend Cassie and I were sent to go find him... which we did... eventually. We were so fucked up that we were just skipping down the streets in downtown Denver and laughing about everything.
This drug, to me, feels the closest to mushrooms out of all of them (though I haven't sampled 4-AcO-DMT or 4-HO-MET yet) but it can peak a good 6-8 hours, unlike mushrooms. It also doesn't have that spiritual quality that boomers do but rather an intense blow your mind to smithereens effect. Wish I had more for sure. It also didn't seem to be influenced at all by my daily prescribed benzo usage, unlike other psychedelics.
We took some pretty crazy doses of this a night after rolling and we got so fucked up it was no joke. Everyone had a blast except my friend Gavain who got scolded for being too loud by my friend Ashley and went and hid in the bath tub for an hour and then suddenly got up and left... My friend Cassie and I were sent to go find him... which we did... eventually. We were so fucked up that we were just skipping down the streets in downtown Denver and laughing about everything.
This drug, to me, feels the closest to mushrooms out of all of them (though I haven't sampled 4-AcO-DMT or 4-HO-MET yet) but it can peak a good 6-8 hours, unlike mushrooms. It also doesn't have that spiritual quality that boomers do but rather an intense blow your mind to smithereens effect. Wish I had more for sure. It also didn't seem to be influenced at all by my daily prescribed benzo usage, unlike other psychedelics.
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Can you give some details on how much you dosed and redosed and how often and with what method? Is this really an issue with 4-ho-mipt, or the way that you used it? Just want to make sure...
Oh? How much experience do you have with other psychedelics?
I can't wait to try 4-ho-mipt. I got excited about it and ordered it a long time ago and have been sitting on it for way too long. :D
tiger108
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I have 200 mg of 4-HO-MIPT and no scale. Not going to eyeball it. Need to measure out 20 mg.
What would be the best way to measure it using luquids? It is not very soluble in water plus it becames dark on the second day after dilution. Could I use distilled water with some citric acid (have it in powder form)? How accurate is it going to be?
What would be the best way to measure it using luquids? It is not very soluble in water plus it becames dark on the second day after dilution. Could I use distilled water with some citric acid (have it in powder form)? How accurate is it going to be?
psilocybonaut
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If you know it's exactly 200mg, you could dissolve it in 20ml of a strong alcohol. It would then be 10mg/ml
tiger108
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is it o'k to use vodka or should i use anything stronger and what would be best?
MagickalKat777
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Everclear would be the best.
Everyone who knows about this... should go to the website that has the vote "which should we carry next" and click on 4-ho-mipt!!!
(do not PM me asking for this $ource)
This is my favorite psychedelic next to 'cid.
(do not PM me asking for this $ource)
This is my favorite psychedelic next to 'cid.
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atara
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Seriously. Are you crazy? Take that shit out of your post.
But I agree. Everyone ought to vote miprocin.
Welcome to BL.
I think it'd be possible for sure at a high enough dose; but having explored very high doses myself, and with friends (also including a bad camping trip which is posted in trip report archives probably), it didn't happen to us.
But I have heard music that wasn't really there and amazing visuals. It beats 4-aco-dmt IMO/IME. very amazing stuff; too bad its not around anymore.
Vote people! Vote for 4-ho-mipt on that one website! (DONT ASK)
I think it'd be possible for sure at a high enough dose; but having explored very high doses myself, and with friends (also including a bad camping trip which is posted in trip report archives probably), it didn't happen to us.
But I have heard music that wasn't really there and amazing visuals. It beats 4-aco-dmt IMO/IME. very amazing stuff; too bad its not around anymore.
Vote people! Vote for 4-ho-mipt on that one website! (DONT ASK)
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Compared to 4 aco dmt, how does 4 ho mipt stand?
is 4 ho mipt more euphoric or is it a serious head trip,
one that will force you to sit down and see it through.
is 4 ho mipt more euphoric or is it a serious head trip,
one that will force you to sit down and see it through.
Tunnelfission
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Had a good time with this drug at 15 mg, I find one aspect of it kind of hilarious and brand new to me, I owe it a little report :
15 mg dosed late at night with a friend taking the exact same dose around 11:30 pm after work, we cancelled plans to do the test the night before due to exaustion so ready and rested for tonight we both take our doses and wait for the effects.
First signs come relatively shortly, 20-25 minutes before I noticed my head and face feeling different, just a shift in position of perspective, I felt right into my head and a bit dazed, my friend agrees that effects are on the horizon.
We both start getting dreamy and he stumbles up to turn the light off and put on the trip-tracklist which is mostly dark-ambient stuff which was just PERFECT and non abrasive, I begin stretching as my normal trip progression goes but as I go to the ground I notice myself relaxing deeper than I normally do, deep relaxation, my nervous system relaxed and my breathing became controlled and soothing (im usually with a bit of high blood pressure and restlessness). I notice my friend snoring...
I think of stretching and furthering myself in some way as I normally want to do on trips but this one had me entirely submit, my friend and I are night owls so it's kind of odd that we would pass out dead at 1 am but... I could have faught it but the urge and the vibe in the room between my friend and I was of quietness, neither of us felt social at all, rather reserved and shy and we just slipped into our own worlds, I left after 2 and a half hours of EXTREMELY sedated visuals mostly of friends and girls that I know and miss, my emotions were in tact but they were of longing, I went to a very "mushroomy" place for a moment, reminding me of a place I have gone to in trips but not for a good many months.
some points to mention, I did feel entirely sedate but experienced leg tremors when my legs were set in a certain position and angle, I tried to lay on my back and bend my knees 90 degrees with my feet planted on the floor and they just shook like hell, I could have changed it by entirely shifting my position but during the peak until the comedown I was trying to study this shaking, It didn't feel threatening and isn't putting me off trying this again, and reassuring(kind of) that many others experience this effect.
It's very visual, and it puts me right out! perfect for closed eye visuals as most psychs can get my squirmy so I can relax and just watch them, i'm certainly going to try it again and retool the dose to 20 mg. We did not feel social or even talking to eachother much, but I recall the only thing I could contemplate saying to my friend during the peak was "This feels gooooood" and boy howdy the relaxation really was euphoric!
I didn't notice it getting in my face about anything too...easy and visual, to the previous poster compared to 4-aco-DMT theres a BIG difference, 4-aco-dmt gave me visuals of perspective and wideness whereas 4-aco-mipt gave me more LSD like melded pattern style visuals, 4-aco-dmt is much more eye opening, much more humbling, 4-aco-mipt felt more manageable by far and the character or feel of these two are very different yet I would agree that the sedation is similar, they both want you to sink into it and just take it in.
15 mg dosed late at night with a friend taking the exact same dose around 11:30 pm after work, we cancelled plans to do the test the night before due to exaustion so ready and rested for tonight we both take our doses and wait for the effects.
First signs come relatively shortly, 20-25 minutes before I noticed my head and face feeling different, just a shift in position of perspective, I felt right into my head and a bit dazed, my friend agrees that effects are on the horizon.
We both start getting dreamy and he stumbles up to turn the light off and put on the trip-tracklist which is mostly dark-ambient stuff which was just PERFECT and non abrasive, I begin stretching as my normal trip progression goes but as I go to the ground I notice myself relaxing deeper than I normally do, deep relaxation, my nervous system relaxed and my breathing became controlled and soothing (im usually with a bit of high blood pressure and restlessness). I notice my friend snoring...
I think of stretching and furthering myself in some way as I normally want to do on trips but this one had me entirely submit, my friend and I are night owls so it's kind of odd that we would pass out dead at 1 am but... I could have faught it but the urge and the vibe in the room between my friend and I was of quietness, neither of us felt social at all, rather reserved and shy and we just slipped into our own worlds, I left after 2 and a half hours of EXTREMELY sedated visuals mostly of friends and girls that I know and miss, my emotions were in tact but they were of longing, I went to a very "mushroomy" place for a moment, reminding me of a place I have gone to in trips but not for a good many months.
some points to mention, I did feel entirely sedate but experienced leg tremors when my legs were set in a certain position and angle, I tried to lay on my back and bend my knees 90 degrees with my feet planted on the floor and they just shook like hell, I could have changed it by entirely shifting my position but during the peak until the comedown I was trying to study this shaking, It didn't feel threatening and isn't putting me off trying this again, and reassuring(kind of) that many others experience this effect.
It's very visual, and it puts me right out! perfect for closed eye visuals as most psychs can get my squirmy so I can relax and just watch them, i'm certainly going to try it again and retool the dose to 20 mg. We did not feel social or even talking to eachother much, but I recall the only thing I could contemplate saying to my friend during the peak was "This feels gooooood" and boy howdy the relaxation really was euphoric!
I didn't notice it getting in my face about anything too...easy and visual, to the previous poster compared to 4-aco-DMT theres a BIG difference, 4-aco-dmt gave me visuals of perspective and wideness whereas 4-aco-mipt gave me more LSD like melded pattern style visuals, 4-aco-dmt is much more eye opening, much more humbling, 4-aco-mipt felt more manageable by far and the character or feel of these two are very different yet I would agree that the sedation is similar, they both want you to sink into it and just take it in.
4-ho-mipt or 4-aco-mipt?
To me 4-ho-mipt is very visual 4-aco-mipt I find less visual.
thanks, another person is wrong:
So I finally tried this combo. The amt seems to really boost the visual and mental component of miprocin. Excellent combo.
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^ What was the dose of either?
a couple months ago, I had a 28mg 4-ho-mipt trip which ended up lasting 12-13 hours (had to drink 3-4 beers before I was drunk enough to sleep). In the later hours of the trip, I got a manic tension, mainly because I'm isolated a lot of the time. The trip itself was good, I got a lot of focus and insight on my relationships with people, but at the end, I was so strung up and 'manic' that I had a hard time just relaxing and letting things flow through.
It may just be an aspect of my environment, but I'm terribly isolated a lot of the time, so when I trip, my thoughts tend to drive towards a manic dynamo with anxious tension.
a couple months ago, I had a 28mg 4-ho-mipt trip which ended up lasting 12-13 hours (had to drink 3-4 beers before I was drunk enough to sleep). In the later hours of the trip, I got a manic tension, mainly because I'm isolated a lot of the time. The trip itself was good, I got a lot of focus and insight on my relationships with people, but at the end, I was so strung up and 'manic' that I had a hard time just relaxing and letting things flow through.
It may just be an aspect of my environment, but I'm terribly isolated a lot of the time, so when I trip, my thoughts tend to drive towards a manic dynamo with anxious tension.
aMT: 65mg.
4-ho-mipt: 47mg.
Miprocin was dosed 7+ hours into the amt trip. I would have added it sooner, but circumstance prevented me from doing so. It seems the amt shortened the duration of the miprocin somewhat. Very mentally intense trip. I had planned to add 5-meo-dmt at the peak, but I forgot about it as the trip was so intense. Maybe it was for the best. Strong visuals - the amt seemed to spark them up even more.
I finished things off with a 2mg xanax bar, as the bar kicked in I decided to snort a small amount of 5-meo-dmt, this provided me with some of the strongest drug induced euphoria I have experienced. Even with the alprazolam in my system the 5-meo-dmt made me trip quite hard.
4-ho-mipt: 47mg.
Miprocin was dosed 7+ hours into the amt trip. I would have added it sooner, but circumstance prevented me from doing so. It seems the amt shortened the duration of the miprocin somewhat. Very mentally intense trip. I had planned to add 5-meo-dmt at the peak, but I forgot about it as the trip was so intense. Maybe it was for the best. Strong visuals - the amt seemed to spark them up even more.
I finished things off with a 2mg xanax bar, as the bar kicked in I decided to snort a small amount of 5-meo-dmt, this provided me with some of the strongest drug induced euphoria I have experienced. Even with the alprazolam in my system the 5-meo-dmt made me trip quite hard.
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