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The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MiPT Thread - Part 1

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I've never had any strong effects from 15 mg 4-aco-dipt.

MR77 said:
A friend and I did 15mgs each from something labeled as 4-HO-MiPT and it was a bit odd. Trip lasted for roughly 5 hours and the peak was a definite 3+. I got this odd feeling that the world was behaving according to some sort of odd algebraic function and I wasn't a point on the curve. As though I was establishing dissonance with my environment. Part of me thought it was 4-HO-DiPT as I had a sample of that as well and the two had a small chance of being switched but that wouldn't fit the length of the experience.

Then again, I did weigh out a 15mg dose for a friend from the same batch and watched as he got to "one of the most intense trips of his life" (he's tripped about 50+ times) and came back to sobriety in under 3 hours, which follows the 4-HO-DiPT effects curve. Anyone else see discrepancies like this in effect duration?

Some other people that took the sample had odd experiences as well. All doses taken were 15mgs and reports varied from the ones above to "feeling cracked out for about 8 hours" to having "an odd 2 hour plateau that was merely weird and then a light stimulation" and one person reporting near inactivity. All these reports are from highly experienced people, same dose, same sample. This drug is fucking weird.
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Friday night I dipped into my 4-HO-MiPT headstash for the first time in a year and a half. I really barely have any left, unfortunately, and had been waiting for an opportunity to try it again with a lover who I knew would really appreciate it. Luckily such a lover has found her way into my life. Our experience was nothing short of cosmic...it was wonderful to reacquaint myself with this tryptamine after 18 months apart. It is so very, very lush. All 5 of my physical senses were completely charged up and firing on all cylinders. The erotic was, as they say, excellent. 25 mg oral initially, with a 12 mg insufflated bump for each of us later, and another 12 mg a little later. Egyptian hieroglyphic cascades giving way to hindu iconography and unknown languages streaming in rainbows all around us as we held our bodies together passionately. While kissing, was sure I was in the jungle, and that some great luscious, juicy plant had unfolded to reveal a goddess within, the goddess now taking me in her arms and allowing me to kiss her and her succulent fruity flesh. A top notch experience in every sense. Absolutely cosmic. Lost myself in my lover's eyes for how long? 15 minutes? Probably more like an hour, honestly. Lock and key. Couldn't look away. Timelessness. Beautiful.

This is probably my favorite tryptamine.
 
It's a shame that for me 4-ho-mipt comes with an almost crippling bodyload (tremor, cramps, nausea). It's the deepest and most fascinating among the 4-subbed trypts I've tasted (including 4-aco-dmt) imo. Is there a way to dampen the side effects, like the diphenhydramine cure people devised to deal with 2c-e come ups?

The acetoxy derivative on the other hand causes next to none bodyload but isn't nearly as powerful unfortunately. 4-aco-mipt is an easygoing recreational psychedelic, which I actually prefer to the much more popular 4-ho-met these days. Taking a closer look at the acetoxy version was an obvious step to take, it's worhwhile and fun but can't substitute for the hydroxy substitution. Regardless of the dose taken, I feel that it'll never evoke such profound experiences as its close cousin did.

Don't tell me to get some DPT, lol. Been there done that. Fuck the drip. :)
 
I had an experience with 23 mg insufflated a couple of days ago. It was the first time I actually found the trip boring. It was intense enough with very strong visuals but it lacked in depth. Also I seem to be more and more sensitive to psychedelics that are very stimulating. 4-HO-MiPT is very stimulating and I constantly feel like I have to do something, but I don't know what. Even when I took a walk outside I felt too stimulated, I guess this is more like party stuff for me in the future. Not that I party much though. Also it raises my heart rate and blood pressure quite much, like 4-HO-MET does. The bodyload is indeed quite heavy which is not present at all with e.g. 4-Aco-DMT.

Edit: 4-HO-MiPT has an erotic edge to it too, just like 5-MeO-MiPT (which I dislike intensely). I don't like that on psychedelics, I have nothing against feeling horny otherwise but it's not what I'm seeking for when tripping.
 
i'm no chemist, so i cannot give you a certain answer, but in the 4-aco-dmt thread, it is a popular opinion that the fumarat is less potent in weight than the hcl, but more stable.
 
Can someone comment on the difference in potency between insufflated and oral routes of administration?

I decided I'd introduce myself to 4-HO-MiPT via insufflation, because I can more easily titrate the dosage to the exact desired level of trippiness, whereas with oral it's more of an all-or-nothing thing. So a couple days ago I was experimenting with insufflated 4-HO-MiPT fumarate, and over the course of two, maybe three hours, I sniffed a good 40 mg. I found this to be disappointingly lightweight -- I topped out at a ++.

A) Is insufflation usually this weak, or is this just a function of the fact that I took forever to reach 40 mg? In other words, would I have tripped a lot harder had I just done a single, 40 mg line?

B) How does insufflation roughly compare to oral, in terms of potency?
 
well, with most psychedelics there is going to be some relatively quick-onset tolerance, seems to be the case with tryptamines moreso than phenethylamines. Another thing to consider would be whether you had a salt, such as HCl or fumarate or the freebase. The latter isn't soluble in water so isn't very effective via insufflation. Any effect there will likely be from some of the material making it down your throat & into your stomach. I've generally had good results with miprocin in the 15-30mg range, but YMMV of course.
 
TheAppleCore said:
A) Is insufflation usually this weak, or is this just a function of the fact that I took forever to reach 40 mg? In other words, would I have tripped a lot harder had I just done a single, 40 mg line?
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Just like I had my strange anomaly with 50 mg only kicking in when insufflated (I didn't insufflate 50 mg though, I took 30 mg orally which produced only a slight bodyload), your case is interesting. For me 4-HO-MiPT works poorly orally, but when insufflated 20+ mg doses are already reasonably intense. I have it as fumarate. This is the only 4-sub, maybe apart from 4-AcO/HO-DPT where there is such a big difference in the ROA for me.
 
ive got 100mg of this so im pretty excited to try it once my 0.001 scales arrive=D. anyway, i was wondering, does this have the same kind of short term tolerance as with mushrooms? i know with mushrooms you have to wait about a week before they will work again.
 
Lazyscience said:
so what would be a good starting dose for 4-HO-MiPT fumarate?
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Well it depends on what you want to achieve. 18-20 mg is a quite good dose for the first time.

It depends on your ROA too. Insufflation is MUCH stronger for me, my last trip was 23 mg insufflated and it was quite intense. But I assume you're taking it orally.
 
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Lazyscience, better start with 8mg and increase by 2mg from week to week to find your sweetpoint.
 
First experience with this stuff, got the fumerate. Took approx 15mg, capsuled with water. Came on within the hour, come up was intense but smooth, packs a punch, delivers a message then melts off peacefully. Beauty of a molecule. :D
 
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