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The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MiPT Thread - Part 1

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I'm using Fumarate. 4-Aco-DMT is some really special stuff. Miprocin is really different IMO but my initial impression of it is pretty darn good. I don't know if it will top 4-aco-dmt though. I will have to wait to try a higher dose.

I dropped 20mg of 4-aco-DMT my first time and it was an amazing trip. I tend to be slightly more sensitive to tryptamines than most people though. Still, I don't think you will be disappointed starting at that dose with the psilacetin.

My last 15mg trip from miprocin wasn't that visual but the first time i took it at around the same dose it was. It was definitely more mentally intense though. Weird.
 
Delta-9-THC said:
I'm using Fumarate. 4-Aco-DMT is some really special stuff. Miprocin is really different IMO but my initial impression of it is pretty darn good. I don't know if it will top 4-aco-dmt though. I will have to wait to try a higher dose.

I dropped 20mg of 4-aco-DMT my first time and it was an amazing trip. I tend to be slightly more sensitive to tryptamines than most people though. Still, I don't think you will be disappointed starting at that dose with the psilacetin.

My last 15mg trip from miprocin wasn't that visual but the first time i took it at around the same dose it was. It was definitely more mentally intense though. Weird.
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Thanks for the info.

I've put off getting into the 4-subs for too long, so I'm really looking forward to finally jumping in with both feet.

I just hope I haven't set unrealistic expectations for myself in regards to 4-aco. I've read so many glowing reports here about it that I think I've built it up into this almost mythical, godlike chemical. =D
 
It definitely met and exceeded my expectations. It is everything I wish mushrooms were. The amazing visuals (perhaps a bit more DMT like) without the nausea, anxiety, and negative thought loops.

I'm interested to see what you think of the miprocin as well. Definitely seems to have a lot of potential.
 
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It definitely met and exceeded my expectations. It is everything I wish mushrooms were. The amazing visuals (perhaps a bit more DMT like) without the nausea, anxiety, and negative thought loops.

I'm interested to see what you think of the miprocin as well. Definitely seems to have a lot of potential.
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Well my road trip to see my tripping buddies is tomorrow. Hopefully Monday I can get some trip reports in.

EDIT: Sorry for that post repetitively using the word trip. :D
 
So I've lurked in this thread (and others) for quite a while but never felt the need to post until now.
Last night I tried 17mg 4-ho-mipt fumerate as a starting point, and had a wonderful time for about 3 and a half hours before, after smoking a fair amount of weed, I felt like my heart was jumping out of chest and I was being sqeezed very intently, along with the bizzare sensation of something large and hard and round (like the mug I was drinking out of) coming out of my mouth and almost like the salvia gravity change I felt like I was sort of being pulled.
Any ideas what happened? It was so overwhelming and unpleasant, and happened quite a few times though nowhere near as intense at the first time. My tactile sensations also changed completely after the first one happened, from everything feeling lovely and smooth or interesting, everything felt very blunt and too hard.
It was so scary and completely unlike any other sensation I've experienced on a psy. I have no idea whether it was actually related to the drug, part of me thinks I might have just been hungry.
 
We'll for what it's worth I have experienced some weird tactile sensations on this drug.

I remember making a bowl of hot soup and while I was washing the saucepan I got my hand wet with cold water and it felt like I had burnt my fingers. It took me a while to figure out I hadn't.

I also remember eating ravenously and after swallowing quickly I suddenly felt like I had gotten a piece of food stuck in my lung or throat or something. This actually freaked me out a good bit but i was totally fine.

The fact that you smoked weed right before this anxiety began suggests that it probably wasn't just the miprocin though.
 
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That makes me feel a bit better. I know that the weed must have had an effect. The strange thing is that after this happened it felt like the trip was over, but I was still having synaesthesia and strange thought patterns.
I've kind of been worrying a bit... but I'm probably being paranoid?
 
Well I don't find miprocin to last that long. Each time the main part of the trip has only lasted about 3-4 hours. I've been able to go to sleep about 6 hours in.

You're still worrying about it now? Definitely sounds like anxiety unless your having any lasting physical side effects.
 
I tend to worry about things, there's been no lasting effects so I think it was psychosomatic or unrelated to the trip. Before it happened I was having a fantastic time so I would like to try it again, perhaps at a lower dose so I can be more aware of physical discomforts.

Delta-9-THC: I received your pm but can't reply until I've made a few new posts, but I wanted to thank you :) I'd read that thread before which actually calmed me whilst I was tripping, I figured the 4-ho-mipt was not happy with the food I'd eaten earlier lol
 
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OK cool man. Best of luck on your future travels. Let us know how it goes if you decide to try it again.
 
i loathed 4-ho-mipt. it was an electric jittery ball of central nervous system shocks and strange octagonal hallucinations... with no sign up letting up for at least 6 hours....

Buuurrrahhh, i will never forget the trembles that were associated with that drug.
 
Psychonautical said:
i loathed 4-ho-mipt. it was an electric jittery ball of central nervous system shocks and strange octagonal hallucinations... with no sign up letting up for at least 6 hours....

Buuurrrahhh, i will never forget the trembles that were associated with that drug.
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What dosage did you notice these unsavory side effects?
 
Delta-9-THC it sounds like we had some what similar experiences. These weren't normal weed munchies but eating seemed to go right through me and I felt totally empty. I actually stopped eating after realizing it, scarfing down food that fast with no end isn't wise.

4-HO-MiPT to me is like an offshoot of mushrooms mixed with LSD/Stimulant of some sort. The mind racing was extremely intense, what I would think about came alive in my mind and I was there but still aware of my surroundings with my eyes open.

I'd be careful of too high a dose of this stuff, some people seem really sensitive to tremors/shakes/sweating on this. Mine were minor yet 4-HO-DiPT does absolutely nothing to me (Supposed to cause more tremors).

If you get a headache after using any of these, you need to drink lots of water. I believe it dehydrates you just like shrooms can.

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What dosage did you notice these unsavory side effects?
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30mg+ for me, I'd recommend everyone do a small test dose of this stuff first to be safe.
 
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4-HO-MiPT to me is like an offshoot of mushrooms mixed with LSD/Stimulant of some sort. The mind racing was extremely intense, what I would think about came alive in my mind and I was there but still aware of my surroundings with my eyes open.
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This is almost exactly my experience. Good way of describing it. Everything I thought about became extremely vivid and tangible. I thought it was fairly intense but certainly enjoyable.

I also find it to be like a mix between LSD and Mushrooms with a slightly more stimulating and euphoric edge to it. It had me dancing around with a huge grin on my face.

I only had tremors on my first time with it and haven't had it since then for some reason.
 
I'm going to try this substance either this or next month; or maybe the month after that. This spring atleast; and I'm quite looking forward to it. I've never experimented with RC's before and never had the urge to try a newer compound until I came across this one. I'm only experienced with LSD (very experienced though) and actual mushrooms, but tryptamines are something I typically like a lot so I'm pretty sure this one will be interesting.

Especially the reports of 4-ho-mipt being a lot like mushrooms but with not as much of a dark edge, maybe a little euphoric and stimulantish like LSD and with less of the typical shroom bodyload... it sounds rather perfect. If its good, it might replace mushrooms for me. Also the idea of taking a powder instead of eating fungus is very pleasing.

Our doses are pre-messured at 20 mg, I'm a 50kg/110lbs female but I prefer a higher yet managable dose; and I read 20 is strong but doable; so that sounds just about right. If anyone thinks its a really bad idea to take a higher dose as a first experience I'd like to hear; because I thought it would be a good idea. I'm good with other tryptamines (psilocyn and LSD as far as it counts as a tryptamine) so I can't think of a reason this would be too different.

Any tips for the experience? I'll go in it expecting something like mushrooms as thats the most closely related substance I'm experienced with; and wether it will be very pleasant or very uncomfortable; I'm looking forward a lot to trying a new psychedelic.
 
^ A tip that I would like to offer is pick your music very carefully...

Of course music is important with all psychedelics, but it is a key component of a 4-ho-mipt experience; I have found that the trip will not fully manifest without appropriate music.

Also I have found that 4-ho-mipt makes me very, very sensitive to dark feelings in music - so much so that music which I am quite comfortable listening to on a different psychedelic will be disturbingly dark on 4-ho-mipt. So keep it 100% positive :)

And be prepared for intensity!!!

4-ho-mipt was my very first "RC", and to this day it is probably my favorite :) <3
 
I've only tried this substance once but what Propyl Power said about the music makes alot of sense, I remember that once I started having anxiety it was at a particularly intense part of a song (the peak of vicious delicious by infected mushroom, I thought my heart had exploded lol). Its been a few days since I did trip but only 17mg gave me pretty bad muscle tremors, however I had been eating during the day and not exactly healthily so I'm attributing it to that.
 
I've been experimenting with this one at regular intervals (about once every week with some breaks) over the past 2 months. Here are my impressions so far.

For the most part it has been a very interesting chemical although somewhat unpredictable. My first trip at 15-16mg had lots of side effects like muscle tremors/tension, headaches, and gas pains which really put me off and kept me from fully enjoying the trip.

Since then I have tried lower doses and and built up to 20mg recently.

My first trip had some very intense CEVs but since then I have not been able to replicate it even at higher doses. My subsequent trips have been much more mental. OEVs are always pretty prominent and again fairly different than mushrooms. It really causes me to contemplate and analyze a lot of my behavior and the way I relate to the world. It is fairly relentless in this regard but not too confusing unlike mushrooms can be. I really enjoy the headspace although it is intense for sure. Overall it is a bit gentler than mushrooms or 4-aco-dmt.

Since my first trip it seems like my body has almost gotten used to the chemical. At first I found it to have a bit of a body load but my most recent trip and highest dose yet at around 20mg had pretty much zero side effects and was incredibly euphoric.

I find this chemical to be completely distinct from LSD or Mushrooms and I do not see the similarity to mush that others have noted (except in duration which is around 6-7 hours). It has its own distinct body high and mental character and the visuals are quite unique as well although I haven't been able to get too many CEVs since my first trip for whatever reason. They are somewhat similar in palette to LSD. Quite unlike mushrooms.

I seem to have alot less control over the visuals as well. Usually with LSD or mushrooms I can meditate on the visuals and cause them to change and become more intense. This seems harder to do on miprocin.

One thing that has been consistent from trip to trip is the immense appetite stimulating properties this chemical seems to have. It literally turns my stomach into a bottomless pit and find it difficult to stop eating which is very weird because most psychedelics have the opposite effect. Usually eating seems very alien and unappealing but with this chem it is quite the opposite. It gives me the munchies worse than cannabis!

Anyway I will continue to experiment further. I'm thinking 25mg next time. I want to have a similar visual experience to my first trip. I wonder why it is so unpredictable in that way. . The body high is very euphoric and actually somewhat reminiscent of what I get on the come down of DMT. It sends shivers of pleasure down my spine and rippling throughout my body. Definitely a good psychedelic overall and a worthy addition to the collection.
 
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One thing that has been consistent from trip to trip is the immense appetite stimulating properties this chemical seems to have. It literally turns my stomach into a bottomless pit and find it difficult to stop eating which is very weird because most psychedelics have the opposite effect. Usually eating seems very alien and unappealing but with this chem it is quite the opposite. It gives me the munchies worse than cannabis!
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Really? how strange! Everything else you wrote more or less resonates with my experiences, except for this - in fact, for me it's quite the opposite!

On miprocin, eating seems very distasteful to me, an activity that only mere, flesh-bound mortals would stoop to. And if I am compelled to nourish myself, only raw fruits, nuts, and vegetables are aesthetically and spiritually acceptable.

Although miprocin pushes our appetites in different directions, the overall appetite-response seems to be equally extreme for both of us. Weird! 8( :)
 
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