The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MiPT Thread - Part 1
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azzazza !?
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miprocin used to be so popular a few years ago. nowadays i barely hear anything about it anymore. too bad my stash of it is gone, and no supplier i know of carries it nowadays. this was one of my favourites. 18-19mg was my average dose: a light +3. strong +3 was 21-23mg for me.
isotopic_parody
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^
expect to see it back around very soon... a very popular vendor is going to be stocking it soon... so I expect a lot more to be around.
Can anyone comment on the similarities and differences with this and 5-meo-mipt? 2c-e?
expect to see it back around very soon... a very popular vendor is going to be stocking it soon... so I expect a lot more to be around.
Can anyone comment on the similarities and differences with this and 5-meo-mipt? 2c-e?
egor
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Not even remotely similar to 2c-e, but they mix well
Have not tried 5-meo-mipt so I cant compare...
Have not tried 5-meo-mipt so I cant compare...
flacky
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4-HO-MIPT by IV?
Mods: Feel free to merge into "The Big and Dandy 4-HO-MIPT Thread" if you think this shouldn't stand on its own
I have very little 4-HO-MIPT left and I'm thinking of IVing it. From reading around here, I've heard from a lot of old and trusted members that tryptamines in general (and 4-HO subbed ones specifically) are generally good for IV use.
Does anyone here have any experience with this and how much the dose should be?
I usually use 26 mg PO.
The only thing that worries me is that I've read reports with 2C-(x) injections where a few milligrams cause a full blown and intense trip. Even if you don't have experience with 4-HO-MIPT specifically by IV, what have you found your tryptamine IV dose to be in relation to your PO dose?
Mods: Feel free to merge into "The Big and Dandy 4-HO-MIPT Thread" if you think this shouldn't stand on its own
I have very little 4-HO-MIPT left and I'm thinking of IVing it. From reading around here, I've heard from a lot of old and trusted members that tryptamines in general (and 4-HO subbed ones specifically) are generally good for IV use.
Does anyone here have any experience with this and how much the dose should be?
I usually use 26 mg PO.
The only thing that worries me is that I've read reports with 2C-(x) injections where a few milligrams cause a full blown and intense trip. Even if you don't have experience with 4-HO-MIPT specifically by IV, what have you found your tryptamine IV dose to be in relation to your PO dose?
ungelesene_bettlek
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with PO you mean oral, I guess?
tathra
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yes, PO means oral.
tryptamines are quite good for IV use in my experiences (and from what i've heard), but the only psychedelics i've IV'd are DPT aad 2CI. ~25mg of dpt iv'd gave a nice, mild trip and an incredible rush, but ~4-5mg of 2ci iv'd was intense and uncomfortable at first, but still didnt get me where i wanted to be once it calmed.
a good starting point might be... ~1/3 your oral dose?
tryptamines are quite good for IV use in my experiences (and from what i've heard), but the only psychedelics i've IV'd are DPT aad 2CI. ~25mg of dpt iv'd gave a nice, mild trip and an incredible rush, but ~4-5mg of 2ci iv'd was intense and uncomfortable at first, but still didnt get me where i wanted to be once it calmed.
a good starting point might be... ~1/3 your oral dose?
Swerlz
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i'd say 1/4 to 1/5 your oral dose. You dont want to go TOOOOOOO far with a single milligram and completely lose it.
flacky
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1 mL water was added to 8-12 mg of 4-HO-MIPT and shaken. It did not dissolve at first, so it was left for about 15 minutes. It showed great progress since then. Just waiting until there is no visible undissolved mass then I'll report back. I'm thinking of starting with 0.5 mL (4-6 mg) and going from there.
flacky
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Took a bit of cotton and added about 0.2 mL water to saturate it then 0.5 mL of the 4-HO-MIPT solution. Drew it up into the needle, sterilized the area, got ready to put it in and decided I wasn't going to do it.
I realized that this isn't a bridge I want to cross right now. Even threw my rigs away. Unfortunately, this means I wasted my last bit of 4-HO-MIPT, but in the end that will probably be worth it.
Plus, I'm pretty sure now that the 4-HO-MIPT didn't completely dissolve because there were tiny almost undetectable particles floating in the solution.
I might do it some time in the future, but the fact that there was still that suspension kind of made me very unsure and is what tipped my decision to the side of not doing it. Of course, the solution in the syringe was completely crystal clear, but I just didn't feel right about it. Plus, it would have sucked if I went through all of that to inject it and have no effects because all the undissolved (what I now assume was) freebase was caught in the cotton.
I realized that this isn't a bridge I want to cross right now. Even threw my rigs away. Unfortunately, this means I wasted my last bit of 4-HO-MIPT, but in the end that will probably be worth it.
Plus, I'm pretty sure now that the 4-HO-MIPT didn't completely dissolve because there were tiny almost undetectable particles floating in the solution.
I might do it some time in the future, but the fact that there was still that suspension kind of made me very unsure and is what tipped my decision to the side of not doing it. Of course, the solution in the syringe was completely crystal clear, but I just didn't feel right about it. Plus, it would have sucked if I went through all of that to inject it and have no effects because all the undissolved (what I now assume was) freebase was caught in the cotton.
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tathra
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dude, mad props. i was under the impression that you had shot before. had i known it was going to be your first time IVing, i would've advised against it.
you didnt have to waste it though, you could've drawn it up into an oral syringe and done it rectally, or just taken it orally.
flacky
Bluelighter
Meh. I kind of regret not doing it. It was mostly the solubility that freaked me. I might do it in the future but for now even though I regret it, I feel like its right for right now.
Sounds like you made a wise decision that could have turned out quite bad otherwise.
If one were so inclined to try such a thing extremely tedious and careful approach is the
only way. Prior experience injecting other things seems almost required and insecurity handling the very last of your material (adding some pressure) is not what you want.
If one were so inclined to try such a thing extremely tedious and careful approach is the
only way. Prior experience injecting other things seems almost required and insecurity handling the very last of your material (adding some pressure) is not what you want.
flacky
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Hm... Well, I do have a new batch coming in soon, so does anyone here have experience IVing this (just for future reference).
Kellermann
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If you have the choice to take 4-HO-MiPT or 4-AcO-MiPT, what do you would take, and why?
Incidentally I have the choice to try 4-HO-MiPT about 2 times with a sample but haven't gotten round to it.
Apart from that if I had to decide between 4-HO-MiPT and 4-AcO-MiPT I would take the 4-HO because I have vaguely heard about the 4-AcO giving people strange side-effects that I really wouldn't want to encounter.
Of course, there is the difference in shelflife where 4-AcO's should keep lots longer than 4-HO's under normal circumstances, so definitely use aluminum foil against light, dessicant against moist, in a sealed mini-mason jar or vial and a (deep)freeze if you decide to get the 4-HO.
4-AcO-DMT is a total winner so I don't have anything particularly against 4-AcO's in general but if we're talking general common 4-HO substituted tryptamines are mostly all celebrated while AcO's remain somewhat more controversial.
Apart from that if I had to decide between 4-HO-MiPT and 4-AcO-MiPT I would take the 4-HO because I have vaguely heard about the 4-AcO giving people strange side-effects that I really wouldn't want to encounter.
Of course, there is the difference in shelflife where 4-AcO's should keep lots longer than 4-HO's under normal circumstances, so definitely use aluminum foil against light, dessicant against moist, in a sealed mini-mason jar or vial and a (deep)freeze if you decide to get the 4-HO.
4-AcO-DMT is a total winner so I don't have anything particularly against 4-AcO's in general but if we're talking general common 4-HO substituted tryptamines are mostly all celebrated while AcO's remain somewhat more controversial.
anondragonfly
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Many people have issues with 4-aco-mipt turning into brown goo. Haven't ever had it myself.
I had 4-ho-mipt though and thought it was great, incredibly recreational.
I had 4-ho-mipt though and thought it was great, incredibly recreational.
Listening
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Haven't tried this stuff yet, but can't wait to do so when it arrives in my mailbox!
I do find it surprising that you call it recreational though, given other peoples' descriptions. What dose? Certainly sounds like it would be tough to socialize with...?
anondragonfly
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Unfortunately both of my trials of this drug were combined with 4-aco-dmt. One time I took 15mg 4-ho-mipt and 7mg 4-aco-dmt and it felt noticeably different from the familiar psilocetin. Distinctly more childlike goofiness, playing around with silly websites and dancing in the bedroom to psytrance.
Kellermann
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i read in some reports, that 4-aco-mipt is stronger than lsd. But they arent any reports about 4--ho -mipt, that say the same. Do u know if they have different effects?
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