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The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MET Thread - Part 2

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2c-goinsane said:
visuals are more synthetic looking than mushrooms imo/e.
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Interesting. How can visuals be more "synthetic looking"? I think actually that's just your mind making it up due to the fact that you know that metocin was made in a laboratory. Add in a bit of psychedelia and imagination and you can come up with "synthetic visuals".
 
SONN said:
last time I took 25mg and the comedown was a little rough. Now I have a 32mg sample, any ideas on what I could possibly take to make the comedown smoother? besides a benzo preferably.
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What made the comedown rough? Can you describe it?
 
Just wondering how long does it take for the tolerance to go away? I notice that this chemical has a cross tolerance with other tryptamines and i can't trip for a few days after I take this on any tryptamine. Anyone know when does the tolerance go away?
 
Tweak Thizz said:
Just wondering how long does it take for the tolerance to go away? I notice that this chemical has a cross tolerance with other tryptamines and i can't trip for a few days after I take this on any tryptamine. Anyone know when does the tolerance go away?
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I noticed this too. Usually, it's about 4-5 days for me it seems.
 
Xzbtya said:
What made the comedown rough? Can you describe it?
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surely a part of it was set and setting but basically it was intense paranoia and thought loops and overstimulation.

I felt rather psychotic tbh, and peoples faces had really intense distortions where it often looked like people had black eyes yet other than that I wasn't really tripping I was just having a really odd adrenaline rush.

However, I'm convinced it had a lot to do with my mental state at the time and the things that happened during the trip.
 
psychodead said:
ive had a lot of experience with 4-ho-mipt and 4-aco-dmt. what does 4-ho-met have that they dont?
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4HOMET has less mindfuck and is easier on the ego. Also, more "playful" if that makes sense ?
In order of magnitude concerning, OE visuals:

4HOMET > 4HOMIPT > 4ACODMT

In order of magnitude concerning, ego:

4ACODMT > 4HOMIPT > 4HOMET

4ACO is close to mushrooms, I believe 4HOMET is the cleanest, most non-threatening substance that resembles mushrooms, without playing with your ego.
I always tell friends 4HOMIPT is inbetween mushrooms and 4HOMET, in terms of mindfuck.

Also, for me, with 4HOMET everything gets saturated with color like you've never seen before.
4HOMIPT is colorful too but is more morphing/warping/shaping than 4HOMET.

edit: This is with regular doses, of course. To complete the story, I experienced ego-death with 50mg of 4HOMET.
 
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I think 4-aco-dmt is way more visual than 4-ho-mipt at comparable levels, but 4-ho-mipt is waaaaay more auditory than 4-aco-dmt for me (which is why 4-ho-mipt is my favorite psychedelic, top notch music enhancement!). I agree wit 4h-aco-dmt < 4-ho-mipt < 4-ho-met as far as effects on the ego goes.
 
IamMe90 said:
I think 4-aco-dmt is way more visual than 4-ho-mipt at comparable levels, but 4-ho-mipt is waaaaay more auditory than 4-aco-dmt for me (which is why 4-ho-mipt is my favorite psychedelic, top notch music enhancement!). I agree wit 4h-aco-dmt < 4-ho-mipt < 4-ho-met as far as effects on the ego goes.
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I've only had the luck to come into contact with 4-AcO-MiPT in my travels(as far as the 4-subbed DiPT/MiPT go)and was wondering if you ever tasted it? If so thoughts between them? I found it excessively intriguing, maybe even more so than 4-HO-MET.
 
I took one hell of a trip on 4-HO-MiPT and I re-dosed two times. Wasn't my smartest move ever, but it was too intense to do anything else so I sat there for 9 hours straight. I remember seeing everything outside move up and down like I was in an elevator and it sure as hell felt like it too. Also, I saw two trees fucking.
 
Help?!?! said:
I've only had the luck to come into contact with 4-AcO-MiPT in my travels(as far as the 4-subbed DiPT/MiPT go)and was wondering if you ever tasted it? If so thoughts between them? I found it excessively intriguing, maybe even more so than 4-HO-MET.
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I tried 4-aco-mipt and 4-ho-met. 4-ACO-Mipt was less psychedelic per dosage in general. 20mg of 4am were less intense then 4hm. I can agree that also 4am has audio hallucinations. I heard raggea music out of nowhere. ;) But visually it is less effective than 4hm, i actually never had visual like on 4hm on ANY psychedelic. I can agree that 4hm is soft on the ego. The feeling for me was like you are sitting in a space shuttle ready for launch but nothing is happening. But JWH-250 is the kerosene (or w/e u need 4 a shuttle) and will take you farer than anything else. 4homet+jwh250>any psychedelic on its own. To achieve those efffects from the combo you would have to dose way higher but at that doses you wouldn't really have much control and wouldn't remember as much.
Life changer combo.

And btw I went to the doc because of other stomach problems too and I have helicobacter stuff, dunno how that interfers with the trip. I stopped using 4hm because of the bad comedown.
 
Help?!?! said:
I've only had the luck to come into contact with 4-AcO-MiPT in my travels(as far as the 4-subbed DiPT/MiPT go)and was wondering if you ever tasted it? If so thoughts between them? I found it excessively intriguing, maybe even more so than 4-HO-MET.
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I've never had 4-aco-mipt (I'd love to though! All tryptamines are on my wish list) but from what Treats said it sounds quite similar to 4-ho-mipt: little in the way of visuals and crazy auditory hallucinations. What was 4-aco-mipt like for you? 4-ho-mipt also had a very wonderful body high that was reminiscent of some nice molly, and also very giggly, but of course none of the negative effects. Also remarkably light on the body, 20mg oral + 30mg insufflated didn't make me even slightly queasy.
 
IamMe90 said:
I've never had 4-aco-mipt (I'd love to though! All tryptamines are on my wish list) but from what Treats said it sounds quite similar to 4-ho-mipt: little in the way of visuals and crazy auditory hallucinations. What was 4-aco-mipt like for you? 4-ho-mipt also had a very wonderful body high that was reminiscent of some nice molly, and also very giggly, but of course none of the negative effects. Also remarkably light on the body, 20mg oral + 30mg insufflated didn't make me even slightly queasy.
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I can compare 4-aco-mipt to 4-ho-met in the way that I would say that ~30mg of 4-aco-mipt equals ~20mg of 4-ho-met. The auditory hallucinations came from the combination with JWH-122. I think the bodyload/effect ratio is higher than on 4-ho-met. I mean to achieve a mental effect I have to dose a little higher but I also get more bodyload by that. It's not bad or killing me or something but you know the comeup on tryptamines, unpleasant from t+20m to t+1h but Okay after that. I am always giggly on 4 subbed trypts.

Taking 4-aco-mipt was like going to vacation for me.
I don't remember that I got a bad bodyload on the comedown like on 4-ho-met so it's easier on the body on the comedown.
 
Hey,
I'm planning to trip on 4-ho-met but I'm currently using Venlafaxine(SNRI) and my question is this: Is it safe to combine these two? Given that they affect levels of serotonin in brain I have doubts if it's safe. Did anyone have experiences with mixing these two?
 
So instead of taking 33mg as I always do, it would make more sense to increase a dose to 50mg? Or will it just blunt the effects no matter how much I would take? I heard that SNRI's and SSRI's makes your trip a lot less visual but visual effects are relevant to me too so skipping a dose of Venlafaxine(for instance for 2 days) would be a good solution to make my trip the most effective?

Thanks in advance.
 
I used to take that "medication", and I tripped my bollocks off several times on 4-HO-MET. You won't really need to increase your dose that much, if at all. And the visuals were outstanding every time. Full immersion.
 
Never Knows Best said:
^It should blunt the effects of the psych (how much so varies between individuals), but it's not physically dangerous.
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Wouldn't mixing Venlafaxine with any phenethylamine or tryptamine like 4-HO-MET put you at risk of serotonin syndrome? 8(
 
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