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The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MET Thread - Part 2

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How does 4-ho-met compare to 4-ho-mipt and 4-ho-det? I love both of them especially 4-ho-det which is truly a special gem. I find 25mgs of 4-ho-det to produce a nice heavy immersive trip. How is 4-ho-det's dose range compared to 4-ho-met. I recently got a 30mg free sample of 4-ho-met and I am considering doing it all at once.
 
Next time i try this i will prob do 30mg aswel, started at 16mg which was way too light for me snyway,but i just wanted to start out small first to get a feeling for it. Iv done 4aco-dmt aswel, that was great when you found your dose) ggggggggggggggggg

didnt like the hits of 5meo dmt i did, iv got enough to give it one last go but reminds of this weird horrible drug i smoked before, think it was 5-meo dalt?

excuse me im trolliedl
 
IME:
I don't recommend sniffing 5-MeO-DMT unless you like puking.
Definitely don't mix psychs with liquor.
Dosages vary depending on bodyweight and stomach contents, but don't be afraid to eat a bit before.
20mg 4-HO-MiPT + 10mg 5-MeO-MiPT is the sweet spot for me (170lbs) but mixing isn't really considered safe either.
Redosing doesn't really intensify, but prolonged the experience.
Dosing 2 days in a row produced less of a social/party feeling.

I usually get visuals so I don't know why you didn't.
 
Alright thanks for the information. me and 2 others are planning on doing it again tonight (we did it last night too)


Last night I Started with an oral dose of 16mg then topped up 4mg (snorted), then an hour later 10mg (snorted) and finally about an hour and half later 12mg (snorted) the re-dosing as you said, just prolonged the experience, which was pleasant but way too weak in terms of visual effects (in my opinion)

One of my friends is less used to psychedelics (yesterday was they're first experience with a psychedelic) and that person started with an oral dose of 8mg (oral) topped by 7mg about an hour later and 10mg about an hour and half later (all three were oral doses). This friend did not experience any visuals but just a psychedelic state of mind, happy mood and introspective thinking.

So my 2 questions are, how much would you recommend for me (I am a seasoned psychedelic and other drug user) I was thinking to go for about 30-40mg snorted or oral (would this be OK? I want to experience more visuals, slightly intense is OK! as i feel on good grounds with this chemical now.

And finally how much would you recommend for my friend who will want to take the drug orally (this person will also want to have the pleasure of viewing some beautiful visuals=D)

Any help would be MUCH Appreciated! :)

Have a great Saturday evening everyone, look forward to hearing from some of you!

Best Regards

P.S. I weigh around 76KG and my friend is around 55KG, if that helps at all :)

Peace!

Corecontax
 
Personally I've always had nice visuals in the 15mg oral range, but responses to psychedelics vary as do definitions of 'nice visuals'.

Anyway I'd just like to say this is one of my favourite psys, great visuals, little body load, low chance of bad trip.
 
Yeah I agree 15mg of 4-HO-MET should be sufficient for nice visuals. Was for me!
No anti-depressants killing my high either.

You can turn into a train wreck if you think snorting that much is a good idea.

Tolerance can make the experience less enjoyable, I've tried same exact doses
2 days in a row (a few times) and the first day was a blast but on the 2nd day it
seemed played out. I'd suggest waiting a week, it's totally worth it.
 
we've kinda planned to do it 2 night, seeing as 16mg didn't get me were i wanted to be last night (orally) + im doing it again tonight i was thinking to snort a large amount, but if this is a bit risky seeing as im not in as good of a state of mind as i was yesterday, + needing more (because of other troubles not the drug) im now really unsure of the amount to take. Im now thinking of doing 25-27mg Orally, do you think this will be sufficient?
 
Are you still on other medications?

I wouldn't combo it with anything if you are going to go that far. 15-30 is said to be a strong dose.
 
t+0 Still on my daily subutex dose just took 20-25mg snorted.

t+0:26 still not feeling anyfing really, added 8mg

t+0:30 my freind who has sniffed 18-19mg is tripping balls, rather jealous...

t+0:39 Why arnt we tripping yegt!!!
 
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phenethylo J said:
How does 4-ho-met compare to 4-ho-mipt and 4-ho-det? I love both of them especially 4-ho-det which is truly a special gem. I find 25mgs of 4-ho-det to produce a nice heavy immersive trip. How is 4-ho-det's dose range compared to 4-ho-met. I recently got a 30mg free sample of 4-ho-met and I am considering doing it all at once.
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4-ho-met (for me) was just visual with a weak psychadelic headspace. Very little body load. Don't expect mind-fuckery on it. 4-ho-mipt still had better visuals for me, but I've tried an array of doses and only experienced 4-ho-met 3 times. The 4-ho-mipt body load is moderate with both positives and negatives but is definitely manageable. Very cuddly.
At 35mg, 4-ho-met produced visuals and it felt as if I had dipped my feet in psychadelic thinking. I'm a hardhead for tryptamines though so ymmv.
 
t+1:20 iv had about 37mg insufflated but im having very little visuals, another one of us had 16-17mg oral + 7mg insufflated 1 1 and a half hours later which resulted in vomiting about 20minutes later (this person had NO visuals or psychedelic mind state present) and the other person has sniffed 18-19mg and is tripping fucking balls. Well great night that is init.
 
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CoReCoNTAX said:
im stilll ere......considering doing 30mg oral
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If the experience before wasn't very strong then tolerance might not be a factor. However if it is you might have to raise the dose even more for desired effects. Things like this are hard to predict so you have to rely on the safety on the compound.
 
CoReCoNTAX said:
we've kinda planned to do it 2 night, seeing as 16mg didn't get me were i wanted to be last night (orally) + im doing it again tonight?
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This is why your not feeling anything, you can't do it two nights in a row unless you drastically increase the dose. Even then it's still a rough road to get very strong/serious effects. I really wish I still had some, truly beautiful substance and I'm one of the lucky ones who rarely needs more than 15mgs for a very strong trip.
 
just finished the damn bag with x2 20mg oral doses, which we wont see again lol woops
 
Hi,

Sorry I may be in the wrong thread but I was having a quick question here.

Will I be ok to assume that I'll be able to store my 4-Ho-MET fumarate for let's say 2 - 5 years (with no noticeable degradation OFC) if it's stored in amber glass vials in the dark (cold place) ?

Someone have stored 4-Ho-MET or tryptamine in general for a long period of time ?

Thank you very much for your incoming inputs.
 
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