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The Big & Dandy 4-AcO-DMT Thread - Act Three

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4-AcO-DMT is powerful tryptamine. It's duration is short, it's potential is epic. So, I'd suggest 35 mg in safe set n setting, imho this substance isn't for music events
 
it really depends on what you're trying to do. For a self directed psychedelic psychotherapy session 25-40mg depending on individual variance is pretty epic with eyes closed or shaded & some music going. At a concert i'd tend to do less unless i'm planning on having a peak spiritual-type experience at a show. That can be fun but it is a touch more risky as its an uncontrolled environment. I'd definitely start with a 10-15mg dose just to see how you react personally. After a ~1mg allergy test of course. Happy Trails ;)
 
^ i second amd's advice as 15mg really shook me up. i find myself a lot more sensitive than most. i'd take any substance out for a spin in a safe and quiet setting before venturing out in social environs.
 
I love doing 4-aco-dmt outside in nature, as to me, this is where the visuals really come out. When I go inside, I feel like I'm not getting as much out of the chem as I could.

I find 25mg a perfect dose, but I agree in that you should start lower-- perhaps try it before you go to the show? Also I agree with what bunnyhentman said in that the comeup can be overwhelming. So if you are going to trip at the event, I would recommend taking it before you go, and letting yourself come up somewhere safe. Most of the time I like to be sitting or lying down for the come up, because it's intense, and I often get very nauseous at that time.
 
i agree with a difficult comeup. i experienced a great deal of shaking (tense muscles) and chills that seemed to last a great length of time. i also had to lie down and keep perfectly still as the nausea was prominent.

once you've come up the physical effects subside and are nearly non-existant but i couldn't imagine riding that wave up in a social setting.
 
^Yes. Shaking and chills, definitely. Makes me feel like I'm getting sick. On a kind of funny, semi-related note, I get sick so rarely that the most recent time I came down with a cold, the best way I could explain how I was feeling was by comparing it to coming up on 4-aco.
 
I would certainly start with a lower dose like 15 mg first, that's what I did. Then later I did 20 mg and then 30 then 35.
 
Anecdotally, a friend of mine was coming up on 4-aco-dmt at an underground party when it got busted by some really sketchy cops (..in Detroit). The overwhelmingness of the chemical ascent coinciding with the cops really shook her up, and she has 2 decades of experience tripping in public. I would strongly recommend becoming very familiar with it in private before test driving in public. If she didn't know it was going to taper off she might have gotten dangerously spun.

Like a few people said, 4-aco-dmt has a short timeframe. It works for a 2 hour concert, but lacks the stamina for an 8 hour rave.
 
I just wanna let this thread know I had the best ++++ of my entire life on 4-aco and it was on the beach. I think this is a wonderful chemical. I have had great trips every time I used it.
 
SONN said:
I just wanna let this thread know I had the best ++++ of my entire life on 4-aco and it was on the beach. I think this is a wonderful chemical. I have had great trips every time I used it.
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its awesome isnt it? my fav psychedelic at the moment without any doubt :)
 
Merged.

Would have stuck this in the Dosage/Methods of Administration thread but it was more about set/setting than anything so it fit better here :)
 
bunnyhentman said:
Anecdotally, a friend of mine was coming up on 4-aco-dmt at an underground party when it got busted by some really sketchy cops (..in Detroit). The overwhelmingness of the chemical ascent coinciding with the cops really shook her up, and she has 2 decades of experience tripping in public. I would strongly recommend becoming very familiar with it in private before test driving in public. If she didn't know it was going to taper off she might have gotten dangerously spun.

Like a few people said, 4-aco-dmt has a short timeframe. It works for a 2 hour concert, but lacks the stamina for an 8 hour rave.
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its not really a party psychedelic. i would not want all the introspection this beautiful compound gives me to distract from the music in a party, it would be info overload, and would be socially awkward. i think for partying its 4-ho-met, 4-aco-mipt/5-meo-mipt/dipt, etc..
 
Took 50mg oral + 50mg insufflated 5 minutes after the oral dose. The 4-aco was from a reliable source with positive testing by others... yet somehow I just can't get too much out of it. Music sounded awesome, I had some trippy instances during the peak where I thought I was taking to someone but I was really talking to them in my head, and just about zero visuals. I'd rather take mushrooms any day, unfortunately.
 
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I love doing 4-aco-dmt outside in nature, as to me, this is where the visuals really come out. When I go inside, I feel like I'm not getting as much out of the chem as I could.

I find 25mg a perfect dose, but I agree in that you should start lower-- perhaps try it before you go to the show? Also I agree with what bunnyhentman said in that the comeup can be overwhelming. So if you are going to trip at the event, I would recommend taking it before you go, and letting yourself come up somewhere safe. Most of the time I like to be sitting or lying down for the come up, because it's intense, and I often get very nauseous at that time.
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I agree with you 4-aco-dmt is beautiful when you take it outside. It's one of the things I wouldn't even consider doing indoors or spending a chill day at the house. Make an adventure out of it :) but definitely some where safe and not so public. It can be hard to focus at times when things get intense.
 
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Took 50mg oral + 50mg insufflated 5 minutes after the oral dose. The 4-aco was from a reliable source with positive testing by others... yet somehow I just can't get too much out of it. Music sounded awesome, I had some trippy instances during the peak where I thought I was taking to someone but I was really talking to them in my head, and just about zero visuals. I'd rather take mushrooms any day, unfortunately.
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Do you have an otherwise super high tryptamine tolerance? Do mushrooms make you trip?

A dose that high of legit 4-aco-DMT (fumerate, HCl or free base) doesn't make sense to me.

Your 100mg sounds like what about 6mg fumerate would do to me.
 
Mushrooms and other tryptamines (5-meo-mipt, etc) make me trip balls. I hadn't tripped in over a week when I took this, and it was legitimate 4-aco-dmt. I just don't get the same effect from it that other people do, unfortunately. :/ I really love what it does but it takes quite a bit.
 
Honestly you should try it with syrian rue before you decide you don't like it. There's a trip report on bluelight that says his euphoria was better than meth hahahaha. I think the euphoria I experienced on the beach was of a similar magnitude during my ++++. I literally cried tears of joy for almost thirty minutes afterwards and I decided to get up and ride a wave on my boogie board lol. Also I read that the first time you do meth the amount of stimulation you experience over your whole body is supposedly equivalent to 19 orgasms at once.

4 ACO DMT!>Meth=19 orgasms at once.

I find that fascinating.
 
I vomited from IMing 5mg of 4-AcO-DMT but did not vomit from snorting around 20mg.

Am going to try this with 4-HO-MET next time I get some as that was awesome minus the horrible vomiting.
 
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