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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-T-7 Thread

isnt mixing other serotonergic drugs and SSRIs also a really unpleasant way to die? this would obviously include 2C-T-7.
 
Me and a friend tried 2ct7 for the first time together yesterday. 25mg each orally. Interesting expirience. For 6 hours we both felt like coming up, but never actually got there.

A lot of stimulation, energy, talkativeness, significant positive mood push. And body temps defenatelly went up, I felt fairly warm, but never sweaty. Had to wash my face every few hours, as it felt/got greasy.

No visuals at all, if I stared at something with a pattern, without blinking, or focusing, I could make paterns flow/wave very slightly. Other than that, vision did seem enhanced, world looked really clear.

No nausia, or body aches at all really. Tummy did growl at bit at the end, but that is from not eating I think.

I must say we both really liked the substance. What is the safe dosage increase we should move up at? From 25 to 35, would that be safe for next time? I dont mind a very strong trip, I just worry about 2ct7 deaths, still with no reported mechanism of death :|
 
There is a steep dose/response curve. 20mg-25mg does not do much for me either...but 35mg is enough for a full +3. If you stick with oral dosing, and move up slowly...you are being as 'safe' as one can be. Almost all of the negative reports involving T7 were not with oral dosing.
 
has anybody here experienced anything that could possibly be a 2ct7 flashback?

a couple months ago I had a very strange thought induced +4 on insufflated T7 at a dose of around 15mg over a period of a couple hours.

after having extreme anxiety about the strength of my dose and worrying about my health after the last bump I took, I had calmed down enough to have conversation with the people that I was tripping with. our discussion twisted and turned and brought me to a point where I mentioned a salvia experience I had had years ago which I was never able to fully understand.

It had happened before I had any real experience with psychedelics at all and I didn't know at the time what to make of it. I was granted a very brief vision that my human experience and life was only but an arm or a leg of my entire transcendental existence. as I went into detail about this curious memory while on T7, something remarkable happened. I began repeating the experience just through conscious exploration.

I dawned upon an ineffable realization that I was existing in other dimensions simultaneously in ways I wasn't soberly aware of. The realization was very personal - one of being watched, observed, and taught and guided through my human perception of the world by a force beyond it that very well could be my higher dimensional self.

crazy talk, right? during this experience I began leaving behind my moment to moment reality and was ascending to a place where human life and perception was child's play. I felt other presences there, which recognized me and acknowledged my presence. this isn't a trip report so I won't go into crazy detail which is best anyway because I still don't know what to really make of this experience and I don't want to pollute it by hypothesizing a scenario which never actually happened.

anyway, I drifted further and further into this higher and separate reality and I felt absolutely convinced that because of the brevity of the transcendence, I could willfully leave behind my human body by my participation in this other existence. it was so epic that I believed the event could have real world implications such as even erasing my time line as a human being to convenience my arrival at this other plane of consciousness beyond the physical. or possibly death.

my entire body started convulsing with energy, I couldn't stop shaking and I was losing physical awareness of my body and having it replaced with a vibrational energy which almost felt like electricity coursing through my limbs. my heart rate was through the roof and I was scared that I wasn't ready for such an experience. I felt like I could've gone so much further but I couldn't trust that it wouldn't harm me.

when my instincts had told me that I had had enough I realized the only way I could make this experience stop was to distract myself until the T7 had worn off enough that this transcendence wouldn't be involuntary. I managed to find a safe spot in my head to wait the trip out, knowing that my sense of reality had been changed forever. my body calmed down as it's excitement was directly correlated with my mental experience.

back to the point: I was intimidated against doing t7 again for a long period of time because this experience had left it's mark on me in a frighteningly potent way which for the first time in my life, had me face my unacknowledged and untouched fears of death. I only did it again maybe a month later at a purposefully small dose (for me) of about 15-20mg orally. it was an inconsequential trip that I enjoyed but nothing big came of it.

3 days later after that fact, I was in a car driving with a handful of people completely sober except for a 5 hour energy drink which is mostly just B vitamins and no caffeine. we smoked a surprisingly strong blunt and that's when the anomaly began. my entire body started convulsing and I began separating from the momentary fleetingness of time. I began moving to a place where I could look at the transitory nature of reality affectionately because I knew what was beyond it. this is usually a beautiful experience for me but I was disturbed by the feel of the psychedelic effects which were undeniably flavored by t7. This worried me and I was making my best efforts to remain calm through all of it. I had somebody in the car feel my heart beat to gage if it was really as fucked up as it felt, (just as it had on my first epic t7 experience), and they considerately lied to me and told me it felt fine to help me remain calm. later on, they told me it wasn't normal at all - my pulse was extremely hard and fast and all I was doing was sitting in a car.

obviously I won't repeat the combination again and I chalk it up to weed's ability to elevate your heart rate and the energy drinks stimulation which gave me the convulsions - but the t7 flavor is one that I won't forget and I know this wouldn't have happened to me had I not ingested it just a few days before. the similarities between what happened to me in that car and what happened to me a while ago on t7 are undeniable. I know what my head feels like on different kinds of psychedelics and the t7 head space is very recognizable for me.

*shrugs* I guess I just felt like sharing my story. any comments or thoughts are appreciated.
 
Mini-report:
Sunday evening a friend and I tripped on 2C-T-7. It had been tested twice previously by me, once 1-2 mg for idiosyncratic reactions, i definitely was off baseline! then 14 which was a little 2C-B-ish but just under the 'real threshold', minimal sparkles at most.
This sunday I began with 24 mg and a friend at 14, it was his first time. It was his own decision but I tried to be as informative and objective as possible, but he added more over the course of at least 3 hours to come to a total of 34 mg. He said at times it was overwhelming only to the senses, not the mind - if you will. I myself upped to 30 mg with added GHB, cannabis and nitrous. I did not experience any body load whatsoever during the trip, it felt a little buzzy like a family member of an empathogen or PEA. There was a little burpy thing but I managed it easily through meditation, possibly the same kind of energy emanating from the heart chakra (or just 5HT-3 binding in the stomache) MDMA can have: fake chemical nausea, that can be directed. Visual the stuff was rich, balloons produced effects like all my senses melding into a lava lamp type of nebula. We saw impossible things happening in HD documentaries. There were some shivers now and then, temp regulation seemed a little confused. My friend had a nasty pressure on his head and behind his nose, like he said.
He's on Risperdal almost daily and discontinued that day until abortion. After like 9 hours we called it a day. I took Zolpidem and he his Risperdal, after that didnt quite did the trick I gave both of us a tiny bit Xanax which didnt do a thing for him but mellowed me out plenty.
I've had no hangover and took a tested amount of 270 ug LSD on monday which produced very little (what a waste).

All in all I rate it superior to 2C-B and wish to take a higher dose or wait until lower tolerance to see it's fullest potential. A jewel if you appreciate my opinion =)
 
I definitely also find T-7 superior to MDMA. It is more mental, yet doesn't seem to have a "cosmic" direction to it... it's much more emotion/feeling based. It also makes me feel very witty, humorous and talkative. Visually it beats 2C-B as well, and produces a similar sort of inner warmth and euphoria, although T-7 is a bit less forced I would say. I also enjoy the duration and the lack of body load (unless you dose too high... then it can cause quite the bodyload, believe you me).
 
i will be sampling this material some time in the next few weeks - very excited for it. :]

is 25mg a good amount? (it's what's in my capsule.)
 
Feelgoodhit, that could be way too much depending on your tolerance to it. Have you tried other 2CT's? I seem to recall you having tried t21?

You do NOT want to overdose on t7
 
When comparing the level of somatic and mental effects of the trip to its visual effects, 2C-T-7 is the most potently visual psychedelic I've ever used. It's also the most "synthetic." It has a very digital aesthetic where everything seems clean and smooth. Segmented creatures seem to dominate its landscapes, which are cast in an eerie and unnatural light. This description may sound unfavorable, but I think these qualities are great virtues because it means it takes me places other psychedelics don't.

I have what I'm guessing is around 13-15mgs clinging to the bottoms of two separate vials that I'm saving for a rainy day. I think I'll mix it with something, as that much probably won't be enough for my taste. I'm thinking of partnering it with mescaline, 2C-E, or TMA-6. Any opinions on which one of these would make the "least adulterated" 2C-T-7-ish mix?
 
^ i dunno if I'd go mixing 2ct7 with other drugs particularly other phenylethylamines with stimulating qualities. That said this is not exactly my forte, and perhaps someone can give a more specific answer.
 
Considering how rough it is on the body and its more-dangerous-than-most track record you may be right there. I don't want to insufflate it as that's more pain than it's worth. It's been sitting there for years already and I suppose it wouldn't be any great tragedy to just let it degrade away. Just saw the thread and let my mind wonder-babble...
 
Xorkoth said:
15mg rectally, after I had gained a lot of tolerance, produced an intensely pleasurable and animated state for an entire day, with non-stop talking and loads of empathy and insight. Still very little visual change though... it's only ever produced a very strong color saturation effect on me, stronger than even DOC (which makes everything positively glow with brilliance).
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And how badly did that burn? This is the other option I was considering but figured it would burn terribly. Looking at the vials again it looks like I have more like 10mgs. Rectal dissolved in DMSO might be the only way I could make it worthwhile.
 
There's no need to dissolve it in DMSO to make it worthwhile rectally. I can't see where that would make much of a difference actually. Often times I've just shoved the gel cap up there with some lotion and it was good to go. :) As far as pairing it up with something, I think that 2C-T-7 is probably the most mescaline-like of the 2C series that I've tried, and I've always suspected that they would go together magically. I didn't find it synthetic feeling at all; to me it felt like a holy natural state. Maybe that's just me though. :)

feelgoodhit: Individual sensitivity to the 2C-T series seems to vary widely. That said, no matter where your sensitivity lies 25mg is pretty much guaranteed to get you off. I would probably just eat the whole thing, but if you wanted to be safe perhaps try eating 20mg and then, in two hours if you feel it necessary, eat the rest.
 
psood0nym said:
And how badly did that burn? This is the other option I was considering but figured it would burn terribly. Looking at the vials again it looks like I have more like 10mgs. Rectal dissolved in DMSO might be the only way I could make it worthwhile.
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Well, it definitely burns... more than any other 2C-X. The burn faded after 5 or 10 minutes though. I definitely had to deal with it until then though. There is no question that it was worth it, for me.
 
its a longish one, rectal it lasted a good 4-6 hours, orally I imagine it lasts a long time

I wish I had a 30mg dose to take orally

I wish I wish
 
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