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The Big & Dandy 2C-P Thread

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does anyone here redose 2cp? I like to combine 2cp with acid and I was thinking of taking a hit or two of acid with 6mg of 2cp and then halfway into the trip, taking another 6mg to extend the effects. I will be at a festival+long after-party situation so I want something that lasts a really long time, but I don't like DOx compounds.

I am very experienced with psychedelics so I am not worried about bugging out. Just would like to hear if anyone has opinions/experiences redosing 2cp.

I won't be drinking alcohol or taking pills or anything like that.

Another option is to take the acid with the 2cp and then when I feel myself coming down, take a decent amount of 2cb.
 
If your doing that, might be better to sniff the redose to speed up the onset.
 
I would strongly urge you not to redose with 2c-p. At 10mg's I had it come back to at least half speed at hour 8...I thought I was coming down fast and then it hit back up again. Not as strong as the peak hours of course but it was enough to where I wouldn't want to be trying to leave a busy concert.
 
yeah, I am not sure about it.

I've taken 2cp 5 times I think, two of those with acid.

Maybe a better plan is to take the acid with 2cb and then take 2cp later in the evening/morning. I think redosing the acid would be a mistake, that always makes me feel pretty bad.
 
I'm going to try 2c-P for the first time tomorrow. I haven't decided whether to take 8mg's or 10mg's, i'll decide tomorrow. I'm thinking about taking it around 10 or 11am and walking to a woods/forest park by my house, and chill there until 4 or so when my friend gets out of work. I'll be by myself, maybe i'll bring my fishing gear, should be interesting.
 
If you want to fish, take 8mg, if you want to have it more trip orientated take 10mg.
 
If you're going to take it in not totally controlled environment(like your house), then definitely take lowish dose.
Like SpecialK_, suggested 8 mg, but maybe even less - 6-7 mg.
 
allium said:
If you're going to take it in not totally controlled environment(like your house), then definitely take lowish dose.
Like SpecialK_, suggested 8 mg, but maybe even less - 6-7 mg.
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I am a fan of a strong trip, but probably will decide on closer to 8mg. I know those woods very very well. There are nature trails, but they are mostly traveled on the weekend, when there's no work and kids don't have school. It might be an uncontrolled environment, but i'm at peace there, its very beautiful. Especially this time of year. I highly doubt I will see anyone once i'm off the main trail. Now if I find some ticks on me, that will tweak me out.8o:!

Having my fishing pole and tackle box, gives me a good reason to sit on the banks of a creek for a long period of time, without looking suspicious. If I do decide to fish, it's almost certain i'll see a handful of people passing me by, because it's right off the main trail.
 
Once the main 2cp effects start to tail off, a few low dose hits of nn-DMT is an amazing combination. The CEVs are out of this world.
 
I had a very strange experience with this the other day. In the past I'd taken 6mg orally with no effect whatsoever and then on a later occasion I took 8mg orally with 20mg of 2C-E and got very beautiful and colourful visuals from the 2C-E (similar to those at ~25mg 2C-E) and a wonderful pseudo-spiritual shared consciousness experience with the peculiar visual affect of having trouble delineating the boundaries of separate objects that I later realised was from the 2C-P. The other day I decided that I would try 11mg 2C-P (again, orally) and see how that turned out. When I came up, I experienced the same sort of pseudo-spiritual experience as before and enjoyed it quite a bit for about 3 hours. After that, I spent about ten hours in absolute peril for my life accompanied by dyskinetic seizures, tachycardia (enough to make me take 40mg of propanolol), fever, extreme openness to suggestion, confusion, dissociation, and loss of tactile sensation as the universe convinced me that it wanted to assimilate me and that it had the power to do so. Profoundly vivid hallucinations punctuated this delirium in very bizarre and personal ways (e.g. watching television programmes that were not actually playing on the television with subtitles analysing the programmes as allegories for each of my current personal problems, and, on another occasion during the trip, a change in visual distortions matching exactly those of the delirium accompanying pnuemonia and a 40.5 fever which I had experienced whilst hospitalised as a toddler and had completely forgotten about). So this went on and on and I decided that I was an utter idiot. After a total of sixteen hours, I resigned to my fate and went to bed convinced I would die as soon as I fell asleep. The next day I woke up convinced I had died and had been reborn in a concurrent universe wherein my apparent overdose did not kill me à la many-worlds denial of waveform collapse and quantum suicide, and I didn't get over that for about 12 hours. I'm still not entirely sure one way or the other.

Anyway, this experience seems incongruous with people suggesting recreational doses up to 16mg or more. Does this seem like just an allergic reaction (though it didn't seem to happen at lower levels of exposure) or could it be that what I have is not 2C-P? I don't have access to NMR spectra or anything, but M/M/S comes out plausible.

Maybe 2C-P just has very peculiar pharmacodynamics?
 
Very strange indeed. I've taken up to 14mg and not experienced anything like you described. Had you gotten much sleep before dosing? I've had some really weird trips with symptoms similar to what you describe from dosing after having been up for a very long time. Real break-with-reality type stuff. Or this could just be another case of YMMV...

Also, what kind of scale do you use?
 
Actually, that might be it. I didn't have much sleep in the few days prior and I had already been up for about 17 hours when I took it.

It was measured with a Tanita 1210N diamond scale, so it maybe could've been up to 13mg.
 
What do you guys think of someone using this stuff as their first psych?

Thinking of starting off real small... 1mg, then titrating up

Its some scary sounding shit... and a sitter isn't possible

Alprazolam will be available to abort though.

Bad idea?
 
mi5 said:
Once the main 2cp effects start to tail off, a few low dose hits of nn-DMT is an amazing combination. The CEVs are out of this world.
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This sounds like a mad combination, I think a breakthrough on this mix would be one of the most intense psychedelic combinations out there.
 
I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but I have found 2C-P to be a remarkably easy psychedelic to get on with - its quite like mushrooms, but less organic feeling. There is little of a mind-fuck aspect to it, but is inordinately visual.

I have, however only taken relatively small amounts of it at a time though. I can't wait to take a higher dose, but alas, need to get my work out of the way first (deadline on the 19th)

It probably pays to keep doses very low to start with to see how you get on with the chemical. That said i highly recommend it - its a very pleasant chemical indeed.
 
Why would you get flamed? I agree, I took 10mg when I'd only ever taken doses of acid less than 150ug twice (that was all my psychedelic experience at the time) and despite it causing me to trip absolute balls, I had a fantastic time. The headspace is lovely and clear despite the profound visuals. I would say if I had acid visuals in such intensity at that stage I would've lost it.
 
if used responsibly it can certainly be a gentle & rewarding experience. Also, the lengthy come-up eases you into tripping over such a long time that its not a rough transition, as it sometimes is with tryptamines or other fast-onset psychedelics. Got a few friends that absolutely love 2c-p. I like it quite a bit myself
 
It just seems that some think it is mystically powerful, like its something to be feared, whereas I've always found it to be fairly gentle physically, though some of the visuals can be pretty overwhelming!

I wonder whether this would mix well with something like aMT, given the similar durations.
 
never tried aMT, i'd like to sometime though. If you were to combine the two, i wouldn't use your normal dose of 2c-p, as aMT is an MAOI and may well potentiate the 2c-p. Always best to slowly titrate up with combos, this one especially.
 
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