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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-I Thread - Take Two

This'll likely be merged with the Big & Dandy 2C-I Thread, but since you're new you have a chance to reply first - and this might be left here a little longer first since this is quite a specific question that might get skipped over there.

What you're experiencing actually sounds like some left over vasoconstriction to me, some stimulants and stimulant psychedelics like the 2Cs cause this for certain people - I had it a bit with 2C-E.

It could also be psychosomatic, you often have slightly heightened senses for a few days to a week after taking psychedelics, so you might just be noticing things that were already there that little bit more :)
 
10 mg nasally of good 2c-i is fine for someone with no stimulant tolerance

sadly i find myself unable to enjoy high doses of 2c-anything without being over stimulated yet again i do 10mg of adderal and 2 hours later i wanna come down
which really disappoints me i like the 2c's and doc a lot more than i ever liked lsd i didnt get such a mental head fuck off 2c-i or doc like i did from L i found with 2c's and dox compounds your able to talk sense in yourself easier because of the stimulant effects 2c's and dox compounds always make me feel like a mild candy flip in low-average does and they can cause a lot of people to wig out and get over dehydrated and the long duration seems to be a factor in that with stimulation


trippin for 12+ hours is murder on your body and brain(atleast til you sleep,eat,drink ,etc)


also what was your ROA? nasal? oral? boof?

capsule?(ive seen weird cases where a capsule can not fully dissolve and leaves ya a present for later when you dont want it haha)

EDIT: extended 2c-i use is known for its hppd(Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder ) i felt an after glow for about 2 months after killing a gram of killer 2c-i in about 4-5 days
 
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just read that last part now

not smoking weed can make ya feel like shit too if your a regular smoker

its not so much like opiate withdrawals

but you dont feel like right and anxiety can run high and sleep is more difficult i normally cant eat til i smoke
 
too 'thevines2' i took it in a bomb. but because the 2cb took about 30-40 minutes to kick in.. i thought the 2ci wasnt working and licked the remains of the folded up card/paper stuff it was in wich had a few micragrams left. id say its probley what made me up longer than a friend im .. unsure. haha i never had more than 10mg. though. i think it will be the last time.. the comedown as a i said. was orite, but it was a day after that i felt weird, im not sure if it was anxiety or what but i never really get aanxiety like that if it was!! i didnt mind it when it leveld' iswel whilst onit, the comeup just made me feel like i wouldd stop breathing n die. :/ aha

This'll likely be merged with the Big & Dandy 2C-I Thread, but since you're new you have a chance to reply first - and this might be left here a little longer first since this is quite a specific question that might get skipped over there.

What you're experiencing actually sounds like some left over vasoconstriction to me, some stimulants and stimulant psychedelics like the 2Cs cause this for certain people - I had it a bit with 2C-E.

It could also be psychosomatic, you often have slightly heightened senses for a few days to a week after taking psychedelics, so you might just be noticing things that were already there that little bit more :)


wow thanks for letting me off, yeah i wasnt sure about where to put it.. kinda still tryin to figure this site out, never signed up for a forum type thing befor.. you see. :'P
and i duno about the high senses.
maybe.
when the trippin stoped though and left my vision just warpy! but feeling not head fucked.
i was still up with my pupils massiv like i was on speed or something, by this time my friends had compleatly sobard' and they had a little less than me! O.o x
 
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i felt an after glow for about 2 months after killing a gram of killer 2c-i in about 4-5 days

Holy shit man THAT IS RIDICULOUS!!! And VERY VERY dangerous! A very strong dose of 2C-I is 25mg. A gram is 1000mg. This is obviously a fib because there is NO WAY a person would be able to consume an entire GRAM over the course of 4/5 days and not end up in the hospital or dead.
 
I don't know about that Dwayne. With the tolerance you build, it's easy to escalate doses pretty quickly. At a festival this summer, I took my first dose of psychedelics on the Friday morning, and after dtripping for all of Friday and Saturday, on Sunday morning a 50mg dose of 2C-C did absolutely nothing, nor did a drop of acid. I can definitely believe that someone could polish of a gram of 2C-I in a few days if they set their mind to it.
 
High dose 2C-I

Tonight I've been reading a bunch of the trip reports for 2C-I on Erowid. Nearly all of them had dosages of 25mg or less, while there were a few about accidental overdoses of 100mg or more. I haven't been able to find anything in, say, the 30-60mg range. Are there any of you out there who have (intentionally ;)) done 30mg or more of 2C-I? I did 36mg once several years ago, and I'd like to visit that space again someday, but the body load was pretty tough (waaaay too much muscle tension).
 
man i know that 25-30 mg 2c-b would be mind blowing as i experienced it last weekend- however 2c-i lasts longer and has a worse body load so i wouldnt think going above that would be smart never the less let me know if/whenu do how it goes!
 
my friend snorted about 140mg thinking it was molly he had a wonderful time he didnt know what the hell was going on for abotu 4 hours, me and my girl friend each took about 30 or 35 mg we had a wonderful time no bad body load very beautiful and clean super clean it was at a rave party so the good vibes made it that much better saw alot of old friends that night very wonderful time
 
my friend snorted about 140mg thinking it was molly he had a wonderful time he didnt know what the hell was going on for abotu 4 hours, me and my girl friend each took about 30 or 35 mg we had a wonderful time no bad body load very beautiful and clean super clean it was at a rave party so the good vibes made it that much better saw alot of old friends that night very wonderful time

That seems ridiculuous
 
Merged this since discussion that goes against HR needn't be emphasized by having its own thread, let's keep it low profile in the B&Ds.

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80 milligrams was fuckin intense. It lasted a bit over 8 hours. I'm gonna step up to 100 milligrams next week.

You're throwing on an extra 20mg of a 2c like its nothing? This seems incredibly irresponsible given their dose-effects curve. I urge you to act with caution, but I guess the fact that you took 80mg of this substance makes me think my words are wasted. Have you no concern for your health? You're in untested waters here, and this kind of rash behavior may very well lead you to great harm someday.
 
Merged this since discussion that goes against HR needn't be emphasized by having its own thread, let's keep it low profile in the B&Ds.

Yeah, I was really hoping for reports in the 30-50mg range or so, not a bunch of bragging about surviving massive overdoses. Thought I made that clear, but I guess not...

I usually do 2C-I in the range of 15-20mg, and it's interesting enough but it feels a little superficial sometimes. A few times I've gone up to 25mg, and gotten a glimmer of a deeper headspace there, but the body load was verging on the uncomfortable. The one time I went higher than 25mg was when I tried it at 36mg, and in the middle of the trip I had a very profound experience of entity contact where there were these aliens standing around me in a semicircle communicating with me telepathically. What's really weird is that several years later, I was flipping through the book "Advanced Magical Arts" by R. J. Stewart, and in the middle of the book I came across a drawing (figure 11 in chapter 5, "Experience of the Underworld") which looked very much like the aliens I saw during that trip. I coulda plotzed. :D

Anyways, I think 2C-I has the potential to be a deeper psychedelic than most people give it credit for, and I was just trying to see if there was anyone else out there who has explored it at higher levels, and what they found there. The body load does get to be a problem at higher doses...36mg had me writhing around on my bed with my teeth chattering like crazy and my eyeballs wiggling so much that I couldn't see anything. Haven't had a lot of time for experiments lately, but maybe somewhere between 25 and 36 will turn out to be my sweet spot...
 
You're throwing on an extra 20mg of a 2c like its nothing? This seems incredibly irresponsible given their dose-effects curve. I urge you to act with caution, but I guess the fact that you took 80mg of this substance makes me think my words are wasted. Have you no concern for your health? You're in untested waters here, and this kind of rash behavior may very well lead you to great harm someday.

I started out with 20 and worked my way up. I've probably taken 2C-I at least 25 times.
 
Hello all,

I ate some 2cI the other day. Dose was about 15-16mg. I figured I would write up a pseudo-report and post it here rather than TR.

Backstory: I had stayed up very late the night before. When I lay down to fall asleep I was extremely drained, but was also hungry. I had no food though, and didn't feel like trying to go out and get some food. So I lay there. And I wanted to smoke some weed, but I was too drained to get up and load the bowl. I never actually slept though. I just lay there tossing and turning all night long. And then it was day time, and the girl got me up and we were on doing things around the house, cleaning and throwing things out. We had to move some things in the truck today, go to the dump and whatever else. I bought a bagel from d&d, but it sucked and I didn't really eat it. After some errands we went out to eat. I didn't eat though. I just drank booze and beer. We stayed there for more than 3 hours... so much for errands. We completed the errands, delivering some furniture to my place. When we got there and set everything up I was buzzing hard from the booze and mentioned, lets eat some 2cI. The girls had things to do, but they said sure. Within minutes I had the doses weighed up and we consumed them.... Probably not the best idea... but it was done and said.

The trip: Now, I hadn't really eaten anything today. My stomach was empty except for coffee milk and booze. ugh... Now the 2cI was beginning to take hold 30-40 minutes later. My stomach was not feeling it though. Neither was my girl. Our other friend (it was her first time with a 2c) had no body discomfort although felt weird during the come-up. I didn't expect much of a trip from the dose... I think mostly cause I was drunk, ad haven't had a strong psychedelic experience in a while... they've all been very light trips. For some reason the 2cI took complete hold 1.5 hours after dosing. I was tripping good. It was very acid like.
The visuals surprised me very much. Our friend was working on some artwork, and so I tried my best to help. I was playing with her supplies and paper. I looked at a blank sheet of white paper, and my mind was blown away by the patterns in the paper. Our friend was having trouble drawing because the lines on the paper were wiggling too much. We were all tripping strongly. It was good, but somewhat unexpected.
We talked a lot about the ups and downs of life. We had a funny moment where we each exclaimed that we had been feeling like shit the past couple days. And we all agreed, but then we tried to set a date to when we started feeling like shit.... and we said shit, maybe its been our whole life. We laughed at how absurd this was. All our conversations were changing scope... being inside the box to outside the box, so to speak - talking about the now to talking about the whole. I felt extremely detached from the world, not in a ketamine way, but in a psychedelic way.
I was blasted, and was in +3 territory. We all loved it. Me and my girl, for some reason, had a lot of stomach discomfort... It wasn't terrible, but we had to keep puking out of our butts. I think this was on account of our diets that day and the previous day.. and the booze. I walked to the store at one point, and being in the store felt so odd. Walking through the park felt odd... but all in a good way... I was seeing life unfold. I was more aware of everything outside my purpose (my purpose being to get food). Normally I would walk and see nothing, but now I looked at the outlines of the trees, and the space between all these things. Memories flooded me of all my prior walks.

Come down: The actual trip lasted 4-6 hours... I wasn't really keeping track of time. We all came down to a certain level and were left with some stimulation. I didn't sleep for another few hours. I waited until sunrise to go get some sandwiches and milk, so that I could eat and get my diet back to healthy, considering the past couple days I was pretty bad to my diet.

Conclusion: 2cI is really awesome. It is very acid-like in my opinion. I liked where my mind went. The visuals were impressive. I feel like they work better when you keep the dose smaller, for some reason. I think I hit too much of a mind-fuck to see the visuals when I get to higher doses. This has been the same with 2ce. With 2ce I'll eat 12mg, and get loads of visuals, but if I eat 25mg I'm given a complete mind-fuck, and I don't really realize the visuals. I have eaten 2cI at higher doses also... 25-30mg or so... and was not as aware of the visuals as I was in this trip. I think it could have also been due to the strangeness of the situation... It's hard to determine.

My advice. 15-18mg of 2cI is awesome.

P.S. this hasn't been proofread, and it took me only 5 or so minutes to write up. Sorry if my writing sucks, and if it is hard to follow. I think that my main conclusion has something to do with being surprised at how 16mg of powder put me out of this world for a little while. It was pretty euphoric.

P.P.S I have not eaten 2cI in close to a year.
 
Tonight I've been reading a bunch of the trip reports for 2C-I on Erowid. Nearly all of them had dosages of 25mg or less, while there were a few about accidental overdoses of 100mg or more. I haven't been able to find anything in, say, the 30-60mg range. Are there any of you out there who have (intentionally ;)) done 30mg or more of 2C-I? I did 36mg once several years ago, and I'd like to visit that space again someday, but the body load was pretty tough (waaaay too much muscle tension).

As well as quite a lot of 10-25mg doses, I've taken 30mg, 35mg, 40mg and 60-65mg. I've also had roughly 70mg of 2C-E, unintentionally.

Experiences are interesting. I had more problems with the body load around the 30mg range than with higher doses - I was a bit too scattered to focus on any physical discomfort. Coordination goes out the window - on 40mg it took me 15 minutes to get up two flights of carpeted stairs (they were flowing downwards like water, most disconcerting) and on 60-65mg I'm pretty sure I spent the peak lying naked on my bed rubbing myself up and down with my hands. At 40mg it also took me about 5 minutes to figure out that the discomfort I was feeling was thirst, and another 5 minutes to figure out that I could fix it by filling my glass with water... which is why I started to try to climb the stairs! Visuals remain completely grounded in reality at 40mg and apart from a couple of hours at the peak, the same at the highest doses I've taken... what I mean is, you can tell what everything around you is, including recognising people. Headspace is generally positive, but gets increasingly disjointed and unfocused as dosage rises - I've never had any particularly profound or mystical experiences with the stuff, nor any intense epiphanies or realisations, but on the flip side I've never had any bad experiences and have only ever had two bouts of unhappiness or paranoia that were easily dealt with. I find it a fun, light-hearted, comparatively social psychedelic at lower doses and an interesting but ultimately unfulfilling one at higher doses - the experiences are all fun, but they don't make it beyond that and you lose a lot of coherence, attentiveness and memory of the experience.

50mg is probably the highest I'd recommend (inferring from the two doses around it) if you're interested in high-dose 2C-I, experienced with the stuff and build up to that level over a few well-spaced trips. I can't imagine it being remotely unsafe and I had no side-effects that were even slightly worrying. Duration seems to increase at higher doses - detectable effects after about 12 hours at the highest two doses, about 10 hours at 40mg, etc. Factor that in to your preparations if you do try it.

My favourite dose is 15mg or so. Low enough to avoid much physical discomfort, and high enough to experience all of what I'd consider its primary positives. I wouldn't take a large dose again and I think there are better substances to experiment with at these intensities.

(That said, the 40mg trip was great fun. It was an accidentally high dose and I was thoroughly miserable for the first 30 minutes of proper effects, then it occurred to me that people take the drug for fun and the idea was so ridiculous that I creased up laughing for god knows how long. After I finally stopped laughing I was in a great mood for the rest of the trip. I went to play snooker that morning with residual visuals and was better than usual).
 
My typical measurements are 21mg followed by 7mg two hours after initial application.. which is when the effects are usually fully roused.

It usually lasts 12 hours.. upwards of 24.. In my experience, 2c-i is clay, and it lets you mold it to nearly anything you want... But the name gives that away.

Do you consistently experience this length of trip with 2C-I? And are you sure it's 2C-I? That seems a very long time for a 2C-I trip to last.
 
Hey,

Can anyone give me some information of low doses of 2cI? Links to trip reports a welcome to. I'm particularly interested in doses of about 8mg oral.

I usually dose 15-25mg oral or 6-10mg snorted with this material. However lately, I have been think about taking 8mg for a while now, and possibly screwing around with the 8-12mg range. Last time I ate 15mg and it was a really wonderful experience.

I have experimented with low doses of 2ce (as well as high doses). My low doses were great between 8 - 12mg. A couple times I ate between 5-6mg. Those experiences were not as great, and were overpowered by the weed I was smoking. Between 8 and 12 was awesome though. I've also snorted between 3-6mg on a few occasions, and those were always nice experiences.

Is the dosing comparative between the 2 chems? I am curious to see if I will achieve similar results / activity as I did experimenting with low doses of 2ce. I gotta experiment with this soon. I'm still a bit busy screwing around with some other stuff at the moment though.

Please share some links and subjective experiences of 2ci around the 8mg range. Thanks!
 
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