Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-E Thread - ver. 3.0

[phactor]

Ahhh thanks for remembering! That makes me feel good, makes me feel like singing.

Wait, do you know where cause I never wrote a trip report on the 20mg 2C-E trip that I remember! If I did somewhere and forgot and you can find it, I'll mail you something really nice.

I just did a quick check and I could not find it, I did find an old trip on erowid you wrote though which I remember reading. You must have written about that 20 mg trip or something. I distinctly remember you writing about being in Boulder, the mountains and having a possibly somewhat difficult trip up there. I also remember thinking to myself, no way I could do that. But I am just a midwest flatlander (I do love the mountains and Boulder is awesome).

I sent you a PM though. For some reason you are the second old schooler that I messaged today/"ran into".

Edit: Here is a reference to you writing about being in the mountains, but I remember it being more substantial so it must be from another thread or TR. Murple is also on that thread... tathra too!

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-114627.html

alright youngins... old fart time is over now :D

edit way way later:

Think my mish mash of a brain might have also mixed it up with this experience and turned it into 1

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=25426

 

[Morninggloryseed]

Maybe the "Lighetnign on the Mountain Top" report, 16mg of so 4-AcO-DET? That one was somewhat difficult.

See, most of my reports from back then were in the mountains outside Boulder, that was where I liked to be. Thank you for reading them! I appreciate it.

PS great find, I remember the arguments Murple and I used to get into. THis thread was a good example...maybe the argument part would get taken to his private forum but we loved to debate.

 

[Toltec]

I remember reading a bout your 50mg 2c-c TR and a bicycle ride up a mountain, maybe that is what he meant.. But that could be a false memory of mine..
As for 2c-e try 16mg that's like 250ug LSD. As always, that is only how I perceive it to be...

 

[Morninggloryseed]

I do have a report on that story. Great day it was, can't wait to be back tripping in Boulder...this time with better company too!

 

[infantannihilator]

Well, I think my 16mg dose was uneventful due to a combination of less than perfectly pure substance and a bit of cross-tolerance from the nbome a week earlier.. I ended up doing 20mgs of 2c-i on friday which was quite impromptu and had a pretty nice time.. I'm likely going to lay off for the next two weeks and then try 2c-e with a clean palette so to speak. We'll see how mangled 20mgs gets me then.

I'm considering doing it during the day and heading down to one of my favourite parks, there are a lot of people there in the 'main sections' but back in the woodsy trail parts which I prefer there are a lot less people and there are a few benches scattered around I could 'post up on' should I need to sit for a while.. I should also have some rather nice dutch treat and jelly hash in my possession by then too which will certainly sweeten the deal - I figure with the lack of emotion brought to the 2c-e a few tokes of some top quality uplifting euphoric bud, plus the surroundings which serve to make me happy quite consistently, should maintain spirits quite well, and if anything boost a trip to another level

Takes me about 2 hours to get there by bus, figure about an hour into the ride I'll drink my solution and will be off..

 

[bloodshed344]

Well, I think my 16mg dose was uneventful due to a combination of less than perfectly pure substance and a bit of cross-tolerance from the nbome a week earlier.. I ended up doing 20mgs of 2c-i on friday which was quite impromptu and had a pretty nice time.. I'm likely going to lay off for the next two weeks and then try 2c-e with a clean palette so to speak. We'll see how mangled 20mgs gets me then.

I'm considering doing it during the day and heading down to one of my favourite parks, there are a lot of people there in the 'main sections' but back in the woodsy trail parts which I prefer there are a lot less people and there are a few benches scattered around I could 'post up on' should I need to sit for a while.. I should also have some rather nice dutch treat and jelly hash in my possession by then too which will certainly sweeten the deal - I figure with the lack of emotion brought to the 2c-e a few tokes of some top quality uplifting euphoric bud, plus the surroundings which serve to make me happy quite consistently, should maintain spirits quite well, and if anything boost a trip to another level

Takes me about 2 hours to get there by bus, figure about an hour into the ride I'll drink my solution and will be off..

Is there any indicators your substance is impure? What is the texture and appearance of your 2C-E?

 

[porkstock]

...Also going by Shulgin who invented the stuff (and published EXTENSIVE notes in his "LAB NOTES")........yeah it's pretty hard to believe people would need 30-40mg....or than you could snort 10mg and not trip your ass off. The good doc gave 2C-E to many others (see his LAB NOTES) and there is a reason he said 12-24mg or whatever the dose was.

I am not basing what I am saying just on my own experience, but the experience I have seen in others with me and the experience of the man who invented it.

And no, my batch was tested and is the real deal and is so sexy pure you should all be jealous. I really do think if you are snorting 10mg and not tripping your ass off then your 2C-E is not very pure or you have some insane tolerance.

i'm with you on 30+ mg 2ce being crazy. too crazy for me. i've only tried up to 20 mg, and that is quite intense. my 2ce is circa 2008. but i know of other people online who have eaten, 30, 40, even 50-60 mg of the same 2ce. some of them probably do it with a tolerance, maybe some of them store it improperly, or maybe our 2ce is just shit compared to yours and i'm super sensitive. i dunno.

what's your dose for 2cb if you take it? for me it's 35-40 mg, higher than Shulgin's recommendation.
i've always thought that my 2cb could be impure though. it's not unreasonable to think that Shulgin may have had more pure chemicals than we have access to!

 

[Morninggloryseed]

For me, 32mg 2C-B is usually right, I've gone up to 36mg and I also love 24mg. I am sure I would love 50mg too, don't know why I never tried that. Hmmmm.

 

[Chikkenstorm]

Yesterday I plugged some 2C-E. Was shooting for 15mg, but ended up with 18mg. No biggie, I thought, as I really wanted to get some decent visuals this time. This was my first time plugging anything and I was under the impression that I should be blasted off somewhere between 15 and 30 minutes. After lying around for half an hour, I didn't feel much except some discomfort caused by some air that got shot up. I thought something had gone wrong and at T+0:45 I was only experiencing slight visuals, nothing more than I did on my first trip (snorting 10mg)
I got quite frustrated and decided I had to make something out of this, even if I had to snort again. So snort I did, but my scale was giving me a hard time and it could have been anything between 5 and 10mg. The burn and bodyload of course kicked in right away, but as I lied down, I noticed the visuals started to get more intense every minute. The exact course of the come-up is a bit blurry, but I ended up with the hardest, most intense trip I've ever had. Everything was morphing and changing colour, shape and contrast. Just as I wanted, but perhaps a bit too much and I might even have lost my sanity for a moment.

So for the sake of HR: plugging seems to be a great ROA, but it might take a while before you fully notice the effects. Not sure exactly why I thought it'd only take 30 minutes, but it takes longer. Keep that in mind, I know I will

 

[infantannihilator]

Could also be that your anoos wasn't exactly very clean

To get the most out of plugging you have to perform an enema or else what you shoot can get stuck up in your waste fibers to put it lightly.

How was the burn that way by the way? I found out I'll never snort a 2c again, and the thought of plugging for a faster come on crossed my mind, but then I imagined a burning deep in my rectum and puckered up like I would were I to find myself in the prison showers.

 

[Chikkenstorm]

Could be, although I took some coffee to help with that a while before doing the enema. I used roughly 2ml of warm water to dissolve the 18mg, which was no problem at all. The burning was pretty much non-existent (just some discomfort, easily explained by the fact that I just shot 2ml of fluid and some air as a bonus up there), that's another reason I thought I did something wrong. Couldn't really notice much of a body load either, although of course I felt some anxiousness/uneasiness but that was probably just placebo. Can't compare it to oral administration, but it is a million times better than snorting

 

[phactor]

Yesterday I plugged some 2C-E. Was shooting for 15mg, but ended up with 18mg. No biggie, I thought, as I really wanted to get some decent visuals this time. This was my first time plugging anything and I was under the impression that I should be blasted off somewhere between 15 and 30 minutes. After lying around for half an hour, I didn't feel much except some discomfort caused by some air that got shot up. I thought something had gone wrong and at T+0:45 I was only experiencing slight visuals, nothing more than I did on my first trip (snorting 10mg)
I got quite frustrated and decided I had to make something out of this, even if I had to snort again. So snort I did, but my scale was giving me a hard time and it could have been anything between 5 and 10mg. The burn and bodyload of course kicked in right away, but as I lied down, I noticed the visuals started to get more intense every minute. The exact course of the come-up is a bit blurry, but I ended up with the hardest, most intense trip I've ever had. Everything was morphing and changing colour, shape and contrast. Just as I wanted, but perhaps a bit too much and I might even have lost my sanity for a moment.

So for the sake of HR: plugging seems to be a great ROA, but it might take a while before you fully notice the effects. Not sure exactly why I thought it'd only take 30 minutes, but it takes longer. Keep that in mind, I know I will

In the future, for harm reduction/safety sake, you should try to remember to pre-weigh any potential boosters before taking the substance. Only problem with that is it might make it more tempting to take in a rash decision.

 

[Wubb]

2c-e 10mg


I use to heavily ab/use 2c-e, god knows how much but I was tripping once or twice a week for little over a year or two, then It got really boring and I moved on to other psychedelics, I stopped tripping for awhile from about august 2013 apart from a few trails with LSZ but i never went above 150ug, 75ug seems perfect for me.

Tuesday I dropped 12mg of 2c-e at work with 30 minutes left till I finished for the day, I went home cleaned the house, washed the dishes and put a load in the washing machine, I wasn’t feeling anything till I had a small spliff and bammm it hit.

I went upstairs to my room put some music on and sat there bopping my head till I completed my assent into 2c-e land, I can finally say I’ve got the magic of this wonderful substance back and I’m not taking it for granted I’m not gunna trip for a while (I thank the Church thread for that)

Music was amazing, porn even more amazing and food appreciation was through the roof everything tasted even better then I remembered, I chatted to my mum and brother for a while (they don’t mind me tripping I’m 24 so old enough and stupid enough to make my own decisions) It was pure bliss everything was breathing my walls took a sand like texture to them I loved every second of it, it made me question my MPA habit and why I’ve been using so much and i made the decision to stop sniffing drugs for once and for all.

I went to bed about 1am woke up for work the next day with the most beautiful after glow I couldn’t stop smiling all day and haven’t touched MPA since (i was snorting 100mg-ish a day). I thought I’d share with you all what a awesome experience I had, im not one for trip reports I just wanted to say the magic does come back.

 

[SWIM Had A Dream]

Preparing for my first 2ce experience....the thing is that I have been dosing 750 mics LSD weekly for the past two months....I have definitely noticed some of the magic has left from tolerance tho I still have a blast!...I'm planning on 20 mg oral 2ce for my first try...I like to be blown away by PDs .... It is getting close to that special day of the week ... Should I give another week sobriety buffer as to appreciate 2ces subtleties? Does L tolerance linger into 2celand after a week of clarity? What about 2 weeks?

 

[5HToInfinity]

Preparing for my first 2ce experience....the thing is that I have been dosing 750 mics LSD weekly for the past two months....I have definitely noticed some of the magic has left from tolerance tho I still have a blast!...I'm planning on 20 mg oral 2ce for my first try...I like to be blown away by PDs .... It is getting close to that special day of the week ... Should I give another week sobriety buffer as to appreciate 2ces subtleties? Does L tolerance linger into 2celand after a week of clarity? What about 2 weeks?

I think you'd have to wait at least a month to get decent effects considering your high doses for so long.

 

[Achten]

I have never dosed so high for so long, and I would personally wait a month like 5HToI said.

But that being said, 2CE is pretty fierce. Never noticed tolerance with it, not even dosing back2back. 25mg gets me squirming in bed for a good 4hours.

 

[pharmakos]

750 mics LSD weekly for the past two months....

wow thats a lot

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

I have never dosed so high for so long, and I would personally wait a month like 5HToI said.

But that being said, 2CE is pretty fierce. Never noticed tolerance with it, not even dosing back2back. 25mg gets me squirming in bed for a good 4hours.

I noticed a tolerance buildup after the second redose, but you're right I have been able to dose 25mg a night for two nights and noticed no tolerance.
And fierce is actually an excellent term to describe 2c-e, you have to be careful or it can send you to some pretty fucked up places haha

 

[perpetualdawn]

Is it just me or is this stuff incredibly strong?

I did my first test dose, measured out 4mg on my +/-3mg accuracy scale. Cut it into a line, cut it in half, made that into a line, cut it in half again to render aprox 1mg. I almost dosed that, but decided to play it safe since I just wanted to test the waters for safety, and cut it in half again. So in theory I dosed about 500ug, but factoring in a wide error margin, maybe 1mg max. Erowid lists threshold at 2-5mg, but this was definitely well past threshold for me. For about an hour, I was glad I didn't have to be in public or talk to anyone.

Has anyone else here taken this tiny of a dose and felt strong threshold effects? I'm trying to figure out if I'm extra sensitive to this stuff or what. It's hard to imagine doing 10mg of this, let alone the 20mg or more that you read about, especially with the exponential dosage curve. I liked it and look forward to more, but I'd like to not make any mistakes in how much more.

 

[Achten]

Is it just me or is this stuff incredibly strong?

I did my first test dose, measured out 4mg on my +/-3mg accuracy scale. Cut it into a line, cut it in half, made that into a line, cut it in half again to render aprox 1mg. I almost dosed that, but decided to play it safe since I just wanted to test the waters for safety, and cut it in half again. So in theory I dosed about 500ug, but factoring in a wide error margin, maybe 1mg max. Erowid lists threshold at 2-5mg, but this was definitely well past threshold for me. For about an hour, I was glad I didn't have to be in public or talk to anyone.

Has anyone else here taken this tiny of a dose and felt strong threshold effects? I'm trying to figure out if I'm extra sensitive to this stuff or what. It's hard to imagine doing 10mg of this, let alone the 20mg or more that you read about, especially with the exponential dosage curve. I liked it and look forward to more, but I'd like to not make any mistakes in how much more.

It is true about the dose/response curve.
BUt 2CE is (next to fierce), also a weird chemical .

First the obvious things:
Does your scale run on batteries ? Might be low and then the amount displayed could be way off.
You could be more than averagely sensitive.
I always weigh my stuff at least twice. I weigh the dose (more than not I weigh double I need, and cut it in half (with a sharp knife, not a credit card or sth.) These compounds have weird density sometimes, IMO.
After I have my wanted dose, I weigh the paper I put it in seperately. Then I take the paper and put in the dose, and weigh the two together again. Rarely is this amount equal to "paper + dose". I don't know what scale you are using but mine costs 130€ and runs on AC, but there is still a definite error.

My first dose was 15mg, if I remember correctly. (after a miniscule allergy test). Good trip, pretty intense although not too much.
Highest I've gone is 25mg. Was wonderful. I was in the moment for 4hours. Being in the moment included squirming in bed, as I said. I started watching a documentary (Wonders of the Universe) but I couldn't make sense of it after 45minutes. Went lying on bed with Supperclub music.
I don't remember the allergy testing being active like you describe , but:
I have tried 3mg of 2CE at a social gathering at a friends house and it was way more active than I thought.
So active that I went by bike, ant not by car .

I also took 8mg with a friend once (my other trips were all solo), and he likened it to 15-20mg of a 4HO-x compound.
We went for a bike ride and suddenly all I could see were phosphenes and light flickers. Cool but weird ! Luckily we were accompanied by a sober person

Thread carefully but I find it a real "teacher compound". As Shulgin wrote:

Several people have said, about 2C-E, "I don't think I like it, since it isn't that much fun. But I intend to explore it again." There is something here that will reward the experimenter. Someday, the full character of 2C-E will be understood, but for the moment, let it rest as being a difficult and worth-while material.