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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-E Thread - ver. 3.0

On 20mg 2C-E, I could not walk around. We were in a park, on top of some high cliffs overlooking Boulder Colorado the entire day. Guys trust me on this, 20mg was INTENSE. Easily as intense as 500ug LSD. When I say you guys have crappy 2C-E or whatever...I'm really saying you don't have the same batch I have. Anyone who wants to fly me to them for a weekend, I will bring some of this 2C-E and I'll happily show you how intense 20mg is!
 
Is it really that hard to believe you might be more sensitive to its effects than others? The 10mg I snorted came nowhere close to ~250ug LSD, visually speaking (and half that dose was more interesting to me). I'm seriously jealous that you get an intense trip from 20mg, but the fact that others don't doesn't mean their 2C-E is worse. For all we know your batch might be contaminated with something else that makes you trip balls ;)
 
Well in my case, I know some substances I am more sensitive to than others, and some less so...but in the case of 2C-E I have never taken it alone, always with another and I've shared it/given away to quite a number of people and their experiences mirrror mine. Also going by Shulgin who invented the stuff (and published EXTENSIVE notes in his "LAB NOTES")........yeah it's pretty hard to believe people would need 30-40mg....or than you could snort 10mg and not trip your ass off. The good doc gave 2C-E to many others (see his LAB NOTES) and there is a reason he said 12-24mg or whatever the dose was.

I am not basing what I am saying just on my own experience, but the experience I have seen in others with me and the experience of the man who invented it.

And no, my batch was tested and is the real deal and is so sexy pure you should all be jealous. I really do think if you are snorting 10mg and not tripping your ass off then your 2C-E is not very pure or you have some insane tolerance.
 
2C-E is now schedule 1 in the USA, and therefore the laws of supply and demand have driven the price up. i would be surprised if a lot of the 2C-E out there today ISN'T cut. there is more incentive to cut now that the stuff is both rarer and more valuable.
 
The vendor I got it from (who has a good reputation on a certain online platform) sold it as pure, but who can you trust these days, eh? We'll see what happens on my next trip which will probably happen wednesday, one week after my first one to ensure any tolerance is gone. If a higher dose does indeed give intense visuals as it should, I might ask him some questions about the purity.
But I have to admit, DMT isn't as insane for me as others claim it to be either (again, visually speaking), while my friends go on holidays to exotic resorts on the same batches. And I'm pretty sure I inhale more than they do, so perhaps my brain is just screwed up :)
 
I too get confused when I see people say they take 25-35 mgs of 2CE. Years ago I was given a sample from someone very knowledgable (probably from pre 2004). It was 19 mgs. Let's just say I should have taken 15mgs at most. It was an ass kicker. Speechless. I guess it could be some people are more or less sensitive to it, or it could be pre 2004 the quality was better. Hard to say.
 
JackARoe said:
I too get confused when I see people say they take 25-35 mgs of 2CE. Years ago I was given a sample from someone very knowledgable (probably from pre 2004). It was 19 mgs. Let's just say I should have taken 15mgs at most. It was an ass kicker. Speechless. I guess it could be some people are more or less sensitive to it, or it could be pre 2004 the quality was better. Hard to say.
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Well I've had a jacked up 2C tolerance since before I ever tried 2C-E so that might be the reason. Pretty sure it isn't purity because the stuff I have has a crazy reflective flour type appearance and will even barely melt when it touches your skin... doesn't look impure in the least.
 
morninggloryseed said:
2C-E hcl doesn't melt though in your skin.
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Well obviously. I'm talking about the way the chemical spreads ON your skin. It doesn't melt either, it just has an odd texture that's really hard to describe.

Edit: Just pretend I said "Appears to melt" in my other post. and you know, you don't have to be hellbent on proving to me that my 2C-E isn't pure. I still get the bodyload others experience from those doses, just less of the desired effects compared to other people. I remember the first few times (not all just a couple out of the first 10 or so trips) I did it I got a horrible body load like my insides were all bloated and I just had to lay there.
 
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morninggloryseed said:
Guys Im not hell bent on proving anything other than my 2C-E is purer! ;) My penis is so big.
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Haha, well I'm not angry or anything! It just makes me sad because I know if I had a trip that was as powerful as what you describe from 2C-E it would feel pretty harsh on the body. I just can't get too strong of a trip off of it before the side-effects become pronounced. But truthfully, you know I've never weighed my 2C-E doses. I've just guessed based on the weight of the bag compared to the amount I had (A dangerous practice especially with different batches, I agree). But you know, thinking about it the 2C-E seems like it went farther than it should have based on the doses I was taking, so maybe my doses were smaller. All I know is I can't trip hard enough off of it without uncomfortable side-effects. I've since gotten a scale but I've never bothered to use it for 2C-E.
 
Ya, I sorta agree with MGS. Maybe you got some other 2c. 5mg of 2ce snorted would have me flying in a nicely visual place. I would imagine 10mg to be super strong up the nose. 12mg oral is a nice dose for me. 15mg is where it starts to get strong. I ate 22mg with a few friends at a festival, and we were toast. I recommended against the dose, but the girls thought they could handle it, and we did handle it, but damn was it strong. Definite mind melter. 15mg is strong though, too. So is 12. I've had a minor, but decent trip on 8mg oral.

2ce is a potent drug. You shouldn't need 20mg to get you going unless you've been partying for days or you somehow managed to get some cut-up ice, or perhaps some different 2c altogether.

Although maybe I'm just sensitive to this shit. 12mg, that puts me in a great place. 15mg, that kinds pretty dreamlike. 22mg, and I'm completely mind-fucked, astonished that my body is still able to get around.

Ya, go try MGS's stash. haha
 
DevelopingDasein said:
Ya, I sorta agree with MGS. Maybe you got some other 2c. 5mg of 2ce snorted would have me flying in a nicely visual place. I would imagine 10mg to be super strong up the nose. 12mg oral is a nice dose for me. 15mg is where it starts to get strong. I ate 22mg with a few friends at a festival, and we were toast. I recommended against the dose, but the girls thought they could handle it, and we did handle it, but damn was it strong. Definite mind melter. 15mg is strong though, too. So is 12. I've had a minor, but decent trip on 8mg oral.

2ce is a potent drug. You shouldn't need 20mg to get you going unless you've been partying for days or you somehow managed to get some cut-up ice, or perhaps some different 2c altogether.

Although maybe I'm just sensitive to this shit. 12mg, that puts me in a great place. 15mg, that kinds pretty dreamlike. 22mg, and I'm completely mind-fucked, astonished that my body is still able to get around.

Ya, go try MGS's stash. haha
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Read bro. I get too many negative side effects from it compared to positive ones, it's not a purity thing.

Even if it were impure, it would have to be impure with something that causes only negative 2C-X style side effects, which sounds downright retarded. Oh and all my other 2C-X chems would also have to have the same impurity in proportion to their strength and duration of effects (impossible)

So just stop. Even if my 2C-E is 50% pure it doesn't make what I'm saying any different.
 
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If anyone's the victim of impure drugs, it's me. But we'll find that out soon enough, I've decided to plug 15mg next time. A 50% increase on a steep curve, I know, but its certain that either the 99,7% purity (as advertised) is complete BS or I have a superhuman natural tolerance to the stuff ;)
 
@ morninggloryseed:

That's what I have always said (as intense as 500ug LSD)
... Bet you still enjoyed yourself.. Got mine years ago and it still rocks...
 
Enjoyed every minute of it. LSD at that level always had the potential for panic (and I haven't used high dose LSD in years, so maybe that has changed) but 2C-E never was panic ridden and that 20mg was among two or three of the most important trips of my life using orally active psychedelics (others were on T7 and LSD).
 
I usually get that panic feeling when coming on to LSD... After all these years, you would think that would not happen any longer... I guess the sudden sift out of reality is always quit a shock to ones mind... Now DMT is ever more so... Unless your already peeking form LSD etc... then there is no panic and it just makes the trip much more interesting.......

I'm hoping that AL-Lad (If I Find It) will also bring me to the +4 and beyond like OS did to me in the 70's

Still rock'in!
 
Toltec, my whole EVERYTHING was defragmented and reformatted on March 3rd by ibogaine. Since then, everything is different...the way I trip, the way I love, even the way I play music and the way I eat. No idea if LSD will be different for you but it never was a favorite of mine till recently.
 
morninggloryseed said:
On 20mg 2C-E, I could not walk around. We were in a park, on top of some high cliffs overlooking Boulder Colorado the entire day. Guys trust me on this, 20mg was INTENSE. Easily as intense as 500ug LSD. When I say you guys have crappy 2C-E or whatever...I'm really saying you don't have the same batch I have. Anyone who wants to fly me to them for a weekend, I will bring some of this 2C-E and I'll happily show you how intense 20mg is!
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I totally remember you writing a TR about this way back in the day.

2C-E is super intense, not sure if I could handle it now. I used to take doses in the 15 mg range and go to concert and raves and I doubt I could do that today. I took 20 a few times and it was really deep

Anyways I always liked I and I love B... I never did make the effort to acquire E for my stash. To be honest though, I might try to seek out a small amount just to have.
 
Ahhh thanks for remembering! That makes me feel good, makes me feel like singing.

Wait, do you know where cause I never wrote a trip report on the 20mg 2C-E trip that I remember! If I did somewhere and forgot and you can find it, I'll mail you something really nice.
 
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