Sounds like 2C-E alright![]()
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It was absolutely legit. Maybe I might have gravitated there eventually on my own without the trip, but it was pivotal for me. It completely set the course of my life. That very first 2C-E trip of 15 mg trip (not counting an earlier 3 mg "allergy test") was actually 20 years ago, a week before Labor Day at Burning Man. I took it with my life partner around 7:00 pm while walking the open playa. And we just kept walking, seeing everything. It came on as the sun set, which just absolutely gorgeous. And then it was just awesome. It was my first night out-and-about at my first Burn. Right after we got back, I moved into a new apartment, and I don't recall the date but I think it was in the first few weeks in that apartment that I did the 20 mg 2C-E solo. I don't remember how many trip reports I could find, if any, outside of Shulgin's comments including the "Tennessee" chapter in PIHKAL. The chapter of the book is probably what motivated me to do 20 mg. I think I got an experience of similar level to his but of course I was better prepared for what I was in for. It's definitely among the most intense trips of my life, and it was qualitatively unique---nothing like my trips on ayahuasca or high dose cacti. I'm quite reluctant to compare it to LSD too, because LSD has such a distinct signature of its own. And that's the thing about 2C-E is that it doesn't really have the signature of the others, except maybe other 2C drugs, but the psychedelia is very potent and transparent on top of that signature. So like when you're on acid, you know you're on acid, at least until you really lose your mind. Tryptamines have strong energies to them. The 2Cs though to me feel kinda just stimmy and euphoric, maybe like MDA or something, but then your brain starts doing these crazy things.
Anyways, I mentioned already in the social thread that I tripped on 5 mg two days ago, and it definitely caught me off guard with a very brief but extremely intense rush. I've written a lot about it, but haven't decided what to post. On the one hand, this was my first reunion with a long lost teacher friend. On the other, it was rather difficult and even humiliating reunion. Given the extremity of the rush, I'm reluctant to push the dose any higher next time, even though I don't especially look forward to another "purgatory" level trip. I will say it felt ultimately very productive on an emotional level, but it was not fun at all. On the plus side, the after effects have all been excellent. I certainly recall enjoying the after-effects of trips when I was younger, and I used to brag that my drugs of choice had "anti-hangovers" to an extent, but this feels better than I recall. My long/post-COVID symptoms are almost completely in remission, which also happened on the days following my 10 mg 2C-D trip. I'm going to wait until next weekend before my next trial and maybe longer because I'm curious to see how long before my symptoms return. With the 2C-D I lasted about a week, at the end of which I visited family and may have been exposed to the latest SARS2 firmware. So it could be low-dose psychedelic gets me temporary (one week) remission, or it could give me remission until my next triggering exposure. Or all this is just a coincidence. More experiments will hopefully be insightful.
And maybe "purgatory" trips are underrated if the goal is to effect healing. I sense the trend here as of late has been toward using dissociatives with psychedelics or using them heavily on their own. I'm personally more interested in "getting into the body" than getting out it. The idea is to use psychedelics both as diagnostic tools, to increase awareness of the body and its functioning, and to use psychedelics as treatments, perhaps by amplifying the influence of the mind within the various feedback systems. There is also the theory of (often traumatic) memories presenting themselves to the subject somatically, and by re-experiencing those sensations, the subject may recall such emotions, processing and deriving insight from them. This may be key to lasting healing. Something interesting I note about low doses is their transparency. Anyone who's on a high dose of something *knows their on something*, but there's something uniquely psychedelic about being half-turned on. One can easily trick oneself thinking one is normal but one may in fact be tripping without knowing it. It's all food for thought, and of course I fully look forward to a more immersive tripping experience if my courage and health allow.