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The Big & Dandy 2C-E Thread (Second Edition)

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But, every time no matter what i had to deal with through any of my 2c-e trips the moments of heavenly godliness and one with the universe were astounding, i've felt things from that substance that cannot be explained using traditional language. I feel as if 2c-e visions are what the DMT Elves dream about.
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amen to that !!!!!!!!!!=D
 
anyones thoughts on 1-3 mg orally for a threshold experience?

is it euphoric, visual...nauseating...


2 hours in now...and, after smoking, i feel as though i have taken 1 hit of some mediocre quality acid...

had some tingles going, time has been warping a bit, a general brightening of color...all of this followed a somewhat anxious comeup, surprising considering the dose...

The nausea is present....but not really posing any problem...

just jamming out to some miles davis...hell ya i downloaded his 9 gb discography
 
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I done 2C-E about 50mg i think , I know is alittle to much, but only found out after I took it, did it Last Sunday, and I had the best experience ever, this stuff is better than LSD and DOC, which I tried before.

Visuals amazing, tracers, colors, and everything comes to life, I was watching a Porn, and I felt like I was inside of the Porn Movie, being the director and talking to the Porn stars.

Also when I was putting different tunes, I Put Ferry Corsten, somehow took me to year 2345 in japan, and I was having vision of the Culture there, throught the tune that vibed around me.

also everything I looked at, had a completely different meaning, more profound, and did meant everything to me, also have alot of visions of the future, and epiphanies, about where we come from and Men VS Women, and how the Planet and everything else Co-exist in a Random state of Chaos to find Order.

It really is an amazing substance, with no comedown whatsoever, and this weekend I will be going to Newport to try it with some girls for their first time, they only have experience with shrooms, so this will definetly be so cool.

this time I will make sure I video myself on this, cause at one time, I was a student of Bruce Lee, and was using the exact techniques that bruce lee used to imobilize the adversary, plus I was feeling like Rocky and did several pushups, like 100 maybe.

and ate lots of bananas and orange and mango tropicana juice.

the visuals were pretty intense
 
^^^

Make sure to give them, at least, a much lower dose. Many, probably most people would have way too much bodyload and stimulation at that dose, not to mention tripping really hard for a really long time.
 
On the subject of first time doses for people not too familiar with psychs. What would be a good dose for someone to enjoy the trip and have a good time but that it would be very easy on the mind. A guess would be about 10mg, any better ideas?
 
2C-E and "very easy on the mind" don't really go hand in hand. 10mg would probably be quite tame but might not really give them much of a feel for tripping, either. 15mg would be enough for many people (although not me) to have a decently powerful trip, but it could also get a bit challenging mentally. A first timer starting with 2C-E should be prepared for a powerful/difficult experience.
 
Thinking of taking 40-60mg either orally or, yes, I'm crazy, nasally tonight. I have a bit of a tolerance so take off 10-15mg and you'll get the "no tolerance" dosage I'll be taking.

I'm going to be at a concert where Chemical Brothers will be playing, I haven't arranged transport or anything so will have to try get a taxi to a friend's house after the concert.

Reckon it'll be difficult sorting everything out when the concert ends and I'm still tripping? Haha.
 
^ I think that intranasal 2C's are painful for a reason. Stuff's gotta be damaging to your poor sinuses...


2C-E to me seems neither inherently positive nor negative. It leaves my thought process seemingly totally intact, but simply enhances my awareness of the process itself. Of course this increased awareness can lead to euphoric states as a result of the joy of self-discovery, but it doesn't have the positive push that a lot of other psyches do.

Also, 2C-E puts on a very strange and interesting sort of internal "show" that I haven't seen the likes of anywhere else. It's a sort of play of emotions and images that comes across as an odd form of art. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
 
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TheAppleCore said:
2C-E to me seems neither inherently positive nor negative. It leaves my thought process seemingly totally intact, but simply enhances my awareness of the process itself. Of course this increased awareness can lead to euphoric states as a result of the joy of self-discovery, but it doesn't have the positive push that a lot of other psyches do.
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So many people keep saying this and it surprises me, because of all the drugs I've done, 2C-E has the MOST euphoric push to it for me.

However, I nearly always snort my 2C-E, and when taking it orally I found what you found - it seemed neutral, no real euphoria unless I forced it. I wonder if the ROA is behind this..

^ I think that intranasal 2C's are painful for a reason. Stuff's gotta be damaging to your poor sinuses...
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Most probably, it is most definitely worth it though. I find nasal is 2-3x the intensity of a similar oral dose, lasts 60-75% as long, and is extremely euphoric, overwhelmingly visual, and overall much deeper than an oral experience.
 
Never tried plugging it, but I'm guessing it'd be an equivalent experience minus the roasting-your-face-off aspect. I'd suggest giving that a go.
 
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Never tried plugging it, but I'm guessing it'd be an equivalent experience minus the roasting-your-face-off aspect. I'd suggest giving that a go.
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I don't mind the burn from snorting it, I think it's exaggerated, I've snorted up to 30mg with no real trouble. Yeah it hurts for a bit but I actually kind of like it, because when the pain fades after 5-15 minutes I'm suddenly swept up in the most beautiful amazing euphoria, and it feels so great. Much better than if I didn't feel the pain initially.

The only thing that I find difficult with nasal 2C-E is the end of the experience, as I often end up spending the entire period between 3 and 5am trying to unblock my nose 8o - but it could be a psychosomatic effect as usually I just open my window and a minute later my nose is unblocked.

-- Anyway, so has anyone experienced a very large dose out at a concert or a similar event - how hard was it to communicate etc? I've only tripped on 2C-E alone except for once with a friend, I'd like to be able to communicate freely with people as I'm going to this event alone and it'd suck not to meet anyone there.

On the subject of first time doses for people not too familiar with psychs. What would be a good dose for someone to enjoy the trip and have a good time but that it would be very easy on the mind. A guess would be about 10mg, any better ideas?
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I think it depends on the person really. I actually gave my friend 15mg nasally - this was his first ever trip, and aside from the initial burn he loved it and is now experimenting with various other psychedelics.
 
A lot of people find 10-12mg perfectly adequate for their tastes. Especially in a concert type environment. I personally like to take a bit more. I have had a bit of conversational awkwardness, but nothing too bad, just a feeling of "i'd rather not be talking"
 
mugabe said:
On the subject of first time doses for people not too familiar with psychs. What would be a good dose for someone to enjoy the trip and have a good time but that it would be very easy on the mind. A guess would be about 10mg, any better ideas?
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Honestly, I'd recommend somewhere in the 15-20 range, as this really isnt overpowering by any means, and will give you a proper idea of what the 2C-E trip is all about. IMO, a 10mg oral trip will be enjoyable, but not very indicative of the true power of the compound. The dosage curve for 2C-E is very steep, 2 mg, in this range, can make a very big difference. so go with 18 or 20 mg and enjoy the ride, as this is where serious open eye visuals and other such psychedelia seem to start for me. ;)
 
TheAppleCore said:
Also, 2C-E puts on a very strange and interesting sort of internal "show" that I haven't seen the likes of anywhere else. It's a sort of play of emotions and images that comes across as an odd form of art. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
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in short, yes!
 
I love the stuff! I recomend mixing with glucose if anyones is planning to put it up their hooter. 1:10 ratio of 2c-e - glucose. Will take the dunt out but will block your nose a little. 5-10mg is plentyful :)
 
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-- Anyway, so has anyone experienced a very large dose out at a concert or a similar event - how hard was it to communicate etc? I've only tripped on 2C-E alone except for once with a friend, I'd like to be able to communicate freely with people as I'm going to this event alone and it'd suck not to meet anyone there.
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I do not have experience with a "very large dose" at a concert but i have mixed an avg dose with molly at a concert. The molly was completely overpowered by the 2ce but worked to potentiate it. I found myself analyzing the crowd most of the time, seeing everybodies intentions and roles. Since the concert was just a big drunk-fest i didnt have a very good view on it. I had a hard time talking with people as all i wanted to do was shut my eyes and listen to the music.

For a concert i would recommend a smaller dosage (12-14 mg) or if you are mixing it with ecstasy ~6 mg does really well at adding visuals to your roll without overpowering it. 6 mg 2ce with molly at a concert was one of the best nights of my life tbh.
 
Measuring 10mg 2CE

So my boyfriend recently got 30 doses of 2CE. The thing is, it's all in one bag. The girl didn't separate it for us and we have to split it up amongst a lot of people.

I was curious if there was any way to measure out 10 mg. I don't have a very good scale. I know someone who does, but I wanted to see if there was any other way to measure it out.

Are there such things as 10mg capsules? Any advice?

Thanks
 
Is the bag a KNOWN amount? Or do you just know it's "30 doses"?

There is no way to measure out 10mg without a good scale, unless you use liquid measurement, which you would only want to use with a known amount.
 
If you know HOW MUCH you have in mg, I believe you can water-dose it. Put a known amount in a known amount of water, calculate the ratio. Voila.

If you don't have much experience with psychedelics, or 2ce, use the friends scale. Really, it won't take that long.

Personally, I always just kind of wing it, ahaha... I figure if it's between 20-30 I'm set.

Speaking of which, I personally think 10mg is a little low... mayhaps 15?
 
The girl separated it by eye using a cut up straw. She started with 100 doses total and then scooped 30 bits in the other bag. I wasn't there at the time, but my boyfriend was. I just have no idea what I'm supposed to do with it.
 
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