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The Big & Dandy 2C-E Thread (Second Edition)

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In my experience, nausea seems to be worst with insufflated doses. I find that the best way to avoid nausea on any 2c-x is to dissolve the dose in a bottle of water and sip it slowly. It makes for a very gentle and forgiving come-up.
 
Rectal administation 100% completely eliminates all nausea and bodyload for me with 2C-E. It dramatically reduces bodyload and nausea for pretty much everything, but the difference between rectal and oral/nasal administration with 2C-E is the most dramatic.
 
have anyone on here been spiritually vivisected by the stuff.

I mean fundamentally, i have been through alot as a person.

I was adopted, told i was adopted alot,
just alot of childhood bullshit which works it's way out itself it seems.
sometimes when i'm tripping, i don't want to relive the darkness that happened.

Psilocin, MDMA, LSD, those never really brought any attention to it.
2c-e was one that definitely was spiritually intense to my ego and made me cry and wonder why a few times.
But it always gave me answers.


First i'd say 7-8 times i did it were magnificent, just glorious displays of heavenly wonder
a strong euphoria and this sense of synchroncity as if all of the events of my life were building to this point, this very point and i would feel like i was god, and i could shoot color out of my finger tips.

I had one bad trip, which was directly correlated to my girlfriend having an anxiety attack. in correlation to being unable to get ahold of her mother.

this was about a year and a half ago and i have been nervous about doing it ever sense.
Basically because i know her so well, multiply that by the fact i was so very high, her anxiety rubbed off into the psychic field if you will and i experienced what she was experiencing.
Only Psychedelically. My roommate who was tripping with me also experienced the same phenomena.

He got very anxious and the rainbow colors melted into dark coils and they would bend and
twist and we couldn't sit still and we just felt very uneasy....

After talking her down//her getting ahold of her mom, there was some residual anxiety in us, and it kind of astounded us that it happened.


I never once before had a bad experience on 2c-e before that day.
But it was horrifying. More horrifying than when i transcended LIFE on DPT.

i snorted a VERY LARGE amount of DPT. Somewhere between 150-175 foolishly my first time, expecting more of dmtesque experience. i had a very strong out of this earth psychedelic experience where i was swept up into the sky by rainbow horsemen who chained me up there, my perspective with my "souleyes" open was of that of me being up in the sky looking down at myself on the ground.
my perspective with my eyes open on the ground was that of infinite color and waves of just unlimited visual.

my perspective with my eyes in the sky closed was that of myself living out multiple lives all synchronistically in different points in history. Kind of like

I was a Pirate and all of the people that i know, and knew, were different people aboard my vessel.

I was an Indian in a Tribe looking after my family who was sick and dying and feeling hopeless.

there was something like 8-12 20 minutes movies that played out for 3 hours and the 4 hour was just intense spiritual and physical correlations with my backyard.

a Cicada flew by my head and i felt like it was the strongest most intelligent being on the planet.

Now, i only SMOKE DPT :P lol. For as intense and as amazing as it was there is a part of me that is like NOW YOU KNOW, Don't Do that again.

anyways. I want to take 2c-e again. I don't want to be scared though. I want to have FUN
I think i'm going to combine it with a pinch of AMT just to see if it gives me a more positive upswing.

I just feel like by typing all of this i'm kind of getting intentions to spirits known,
and if anyone could wish me a namaste for this journey i'm about to partake that would be wonderful.


also anyone have experience with the following.

2c-e Bad Trips.
and
how to relax the mind, when something, out of your control is going to happen anyways.
 
i had one unpleasant experience on 2ce, which was remedied by a change of scenery. i turned down the dark music i was listening to and went to a different room. if that hadn't worked, i may have stepped outside.
 
Xorkoth said:
Rectal administation 100% completely eliminates all nausea and bodyload for me with 2C-E. It dramatically reduces bodyload and nausea for pretty much everything, but the difference between rectal and oral/nasal administration with 2C-E is the most dramatic.
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^ I'd have to agree. While I haven't plugged 2C-E as I'm comfortable with snorting it and don't get nausea, some of my friends who *do* get nausea have said that plugging it got rid of it for them - so definitely give it a try if nausea is putting you off this chemical.

As for the guy asking about bad trips. I've had one bad experience with 2C-E, I watched Donnie Darko while tripping (had never seen it before) - up til the end it was great if a little creepy, but then at the end I suddenly thought the movie was real - got really freaked out, upset, etc.. After laying in bed for 30-60 mins and just thinking about my life I cheered up and the trip ended great though, so it didn't put me off tripping again 3 days later.

My tip is to just change your scenery as porkstock suggested. Put on some nice happy music, turn on the lights if you're in the dark, talk to a friend if you're alone - go be by yourself if you're with friends. etc..

Measured doses with a centigram scale and then splitting .1 grams, not ideal but accurate enough imo.
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Well either you've got bunk product or it's the eyeballing that's the cause. I remember thinking I was snorting like 40mg the first times I snorted it, when really it was more like 5-10mg - that's a BIG difference, but one that's easy to make when eyeballing. That's why it's always best to stay on the low side if you must eyeball - it would have been far worse if I'd aimed for 5-10mg and ended up with 40mg.
 
Psychonautical said:
sometimes when i'm tripping, i don't want to relive the darkness that happened.
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I love this. Its so therapeutic to for me. I believe its why I love LSD and 2c-e so very much(their seemingly infinite introspective qualities). As for the bad trips find out to best way for yourself stop anxiety from forming and or continuing. For some people its having others around with soothing voices/breaking thought loops/distraction/etc. Also i',m sure the whole of PD wishes you a namaste for your trip, friend.:)
 
Psychonautical said:
sometimes when i'm tripping, i don't want to relive the darkness that happened
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Help?!?! said:
I love this. Its so therapeutic to for me. I believe its why I love LSD and 2c-e so very much(their seemingly infinite introspective qualities). As for the bad trips find out to best way for yourself stop anxiety from forming and or continuing. For some people its having others around with soothing voices/breaking thought loops/distraction/etc. Also i',m sure the whole of PD wishes you a namaste for your trip, friend.:)
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Yea, but also question yourself as to why the anxiety is so bad. As Help?! said, some of the greatest potential of these drugs is to let you experience truth about yourself. You can't undo the trip with the girl who introduced this anxiety. The anxiety is a truth about you, even if it was triggered by another person. Learn from it by striving to accept it and by being curious about it.

BTW, I'm not saying that it's abnormal to be scared of reliving such darkness. It's totally normal of course. But you can also choose to accept that fear and do the best that you can, affected by the fear, but not influenced by it. Soon you will learn from it, and one day it may transform from fear into something wonderful.
 
2c-e engenders an amazing creative and spiritually edged energy in me. It also always lifts my mood. I am blessed to not experience any nausea from 2c-e, and the body load to me seems like body glow...the only thing I get is a little bit of face ache sometimes from smiling too much all night :)

My usual roa lately is insufflation, starting off with around 8-10 mg, usually bumping that a few more times throughout the night/morning. It can get incredibly visual sometimes, but if I am concentrating on say making some music or a collage or something, then the visuals get a bit suppressed, but if I lay in bed and stare around the room, I will gat that sort of cascading phosphene outline of whatever I happened to look at. Lots of infinite feedback like visuals too.

Interesting about 2c-e also is that the last time I did it, I had been experiencing some bad lower back pain. I had been hobbling around like Frankenstein monster for a few days before taking 2c-e, but to my amazement, the 2c-e released all of the tension in my lower back, leaving me with an almost pain free back the next morning. Pretty amazing relief actually. The next time I have a back issue like that, which unfortunately is often enough, I will try it again and see if it still relieves the pain...

one of my top tier chems for sure...
 
I will gat that sort of cascading phosphene outline of whatever I happened to look at.
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Props to you for describing it like that, I've been trying to find a way to accurately describe those kind of visuals for a long time now with little/no luck.

I get them a lot with 2C-E in the dark (as long as there is *some* light obviously).
 
I have a feeling MDPV would send you down a dark hole, heh. Super increased heart rate, the anxious/paranoid feelings that PV tends to give people coupled with the intense visuals and length of the 2C-E

i'd be scared, but i've never tried 2c-E - have you?
 
^^ DON'T!

It made my body feel like shit and I got all paranoid and just sat there feeling my heart, and I don't flip that often.
 
I know a person who is doing the same thing before drinking larger amounts of alcohol. Adding 5-7mg of 2CE to it.
Another thing: When being totally drunken, snorting a small line of 2C-X (E,I,B) can be very entertaining.

The last few months I ended up doing phens every weekend. Not in large doses... sometimes just 8-10mg of 2CB before meditating or listening to music. There is little cross tolerance between 2CE and 2CB/2CI as far as my eperience goes.

I have observerd great differences between different batches of 2CE in the last two years. In january 2009, I got some 2CE wich was rather easy and calm on my mind. I could to it up to 30mg and did not experience any major difficulties. Well, when my stash went out, I ordered new 2CE from a different source and this one is mind blowing as hell. Between these two batches i started to meditate a lot (2-3 hours a day) and got some kind of idea of how to practice introperspection without using any drugs. But... I believe that the 'old' batch either was not 2CE at all or it was cut. I still got 300mg left of this. Last weekend I snorted a small line, like 5mg. Usually 2CE makes me very unstable and full of anxiety and energy, but after this line I felt very comfortable and stable, but the body feeling and the optical distortion did indeed remind me of 2CE. Is there any way to find out what substance this is?
 
Ugh, I hate mixing alcohol with psychedelics.

mugabe said:
Have some 2C-E coming soon, and was planning on mixing it with some MDPV, has anyone else tried this combination or have any thoughts about it?
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I can't imagine it being nice in any way. I would stay away from the MDPV while you're on 2C-E.
 
This is the truth for me fundamentally.
i'm adopted. i was told virtually everyday by unloving parents.
i was adopted. didn't really know my place in the world for a very long time i was extremely heinously depressed.
Once upon meeting my real mother, and realizing that she has only 13 years of age difference... meaning that she gave birth to me , at 13 years old.. was kind of distressing all in its own right. I'm 24 she's 37

Basically 2c-e takes me out of this sort of disassociation i have with family. I know who i am, trust me, but when i think of home or of ... just like you know that place. Where you'd like to go into your mind to relax... i don't really have one of those.

4-aco-dmt, at an 80mg dose made me relive this amazing experience i had when my parents rented an R.V. and we drove across Canada that shit was amazing i like experienced the whole thing with close eyes and i had never been happier. It was like watching a movie about your life in the 3rd person.

2c-e just leaves me with this scary hollow feeling that nothing can fill.

like i said, i have had 1 bad trip which was brought on by an outside influence.
i've dealt with all of these things before. like i said i've taken 2c-e 10+ times.

LSD, never really made me care, about what my parents did or how my life, is i mean LSD was always just laughter and visuals.

Mushrooms were always intimate bonding experiences between a couple of friends.

2c-e just has this way, of nullifying that which i think i have filled the void up with.
I know that, there really isn't too much else...

I'd assume on here not everyone has had stable family lives, but i was told from 5 years old on, that i wasn't theirs and not a goddamn thing i ever did was good enough.

I guess you could say, 2c-e takes me up high enough to feel like god, but if i start to think too much about my life, too much just about things that i have happened....

I mean i watched my dog, my First dog, get Run over by a COMBINE, yes a Corn Thresher, while it was Threshing corn. Most people have their family dog their whole life.

These are this discernable lines. But if you think that is just a sip from the cup. lol i'm tellin you theres some pretty brackish water in these swamps.

But, every time no matter what i had to deal with through any of my 2c-e trips the moments of heavenly godliness and one with the universe were astounding, i've felt things from that substance that cannot be explained using traditional language. I feel as if 2c-e visions are what the DMT Elves dream about.

I won't touch 2c-p :p
 
i cant say ive ever done anything like 120 mg like some of the shit ive seen on the net but but i can boast a 70 mg trip. 30 mg of which was insufflated. so maybe it was comparable in intensity to a 100+ trip. either way, totally insane
 
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