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The Big & Dandy 2C-E Thread (Second Edition)

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does anyone have experience in the 1-4 mg range oral?

Ive taken 25 mg with only slight visuals and a crappy body load, but had friends take 20 mg of the same batch and blew their minds...

i was wondering if low doses of this stuff would brighten a day perhaps...and avoid the nausea...

im looking for an alternative to low dose LSD basically, and am considering between this and 4-aco-dmt
 
DevinTheDude said:
2c-e is usually taken orally correct? or can it be smoked?
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It can be smoked as far as I'm aware, but I'm not sure what the dosage for smoking it is, or whether it's safe or not, so don't try it until you get some more information.

Oral, nasal and plugging are all good ROAs for 2C-E. I personally like nasal best but if you get nausea or have too big a problem with the burn (if you think anything else you've snorted burns, 2C-E will knock you on your ass) - then plugging would be a good way of getting more from a single dose.
 
Snorting does last allot shorter. Orall last longer; Ive tripped for around 9-10 hours on orral administration before.

Do not smoke it in its powder form. I would think its possible to turn it into a freebase since I read about 2c-t2 being turned into a freebase; but I heard it doesn't work very well.
 
stonerish said:
does anyone have experience in the 1-4 mg range oral?

Ive taken 25 mg with only slight visuals and a crappy body load, but had friends take 20 mg of the same batch and blew their minds...

i was wondering if low doses of this stuff would brighten a day perhaps...and avoid the nausea...

im looking for an alternative to low dose LSD basically, and am considering between this and 4-aco-dmt
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I prefer 4-aco-dmt to 2C-E by FAR for low 'brighten your day' type doses. 4-aco-dmt works astonishingly well for this, whereas low dose 2CE just feels like a weird mild stimulant to me. If you get limited effects that aren't that good from a high dose, I doubt you'll find such low doses very interesting. Not to get too off topic but low dose 4-aco reminds me a looooot more of low dose LSD than low dose 2C-E does. Very slight visual distortions / brightened colors, a mood lift, an altered perspective without being too out of your head.... I tend to go through 4-aco pretty fast, not because I trip balls on it all that regularly, but because I end up taking a ton of low doses.

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Would the effects from snorting last a shorter amount of time though, as opposed to oral ingestion
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Yes. Half as long maybe? I've snorted it once, and you would have to offer me a friggin' fortune to do it again. It's up there on my list of most unpleasant experiences ever - not the whole trip, but the first hour of burning pain and massively magnified bodyload and side effects made it absolutely not at all worth it. Snorting 2C-E is very much a love-it-or-hate-it thing; some people rave about it and don't find the burn that bad, while the rest of us think it feels kind of like slashing open your nostrils and pouring salt in the wound.
 
I havent snorted the 2cs cause of all the unpleasent things I heard. Just breaking a 2c-b capsule in my mouth was enough to burn my sinusis like there was sulfuric acid in my mouth.
 
How's the legal status these days? I know it got scheduled most and many places a while ago. Is there any place were it's unscheduled?
 
It's illegal in the UK, Denmark and Sweden. Maybe a couple other countries by now. I'm not aware of anywhere else it's illegal. It's still legal in the US, Canada and most of Europe, at least.
 
I know it's been said before, but I just wanted to echo the fact that snorting this shit is ridiculous. I thought people were just being soft... FUCK no. The pain is downright vicious.
 
Iv snorted it and ya it sure burns but i dont believe its that bad. i kinda actually enjoy the pain a little. Iv snorted small, 1-4 mg doses and as much as ~10mg at a time. If your interested in trying to snort it just start out real small to test your pain tolerance.
 
i wonder how many people around here have deviated septoms LOL.

Shit.. . brain isn't working... the hole in the septum...w hats that called again?
 
I'm planning to fill some 2c-x powder into capsules (around 20mg maximum) and was wondering what size capsule would be best for this. Also can this all be carried out by hand?
 
SmokeNDose said:
Iv snorted it and ya it sure burns but i dont believe its that bad. i kinda actually enjoy the pain a little. Iv snorted small, 1-4 mg doses and as much as ~10mg at a time. If your interested in trying to snort it just start out real small to test your pain tolerance.
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i also snorted it a week ago, ~10mg divided into 4 bumps. there was a little pain while snorting but really not too bad. in fact, the taste was worse than the pain for me. btw is it normal to get bodyload and nausea from snorting? i heard that rectally administrated 2C-X give less to no bodyload/nausea and thought, that nasally would be pretty much the same. but me and my fellow trippers had that (not too intense, and it wen away after about 1-2hours and a little spliff smoked while laying down in the warm afternoon sun =D
 
SpecialK_ said:
I'm planning to fill some 2c-x powder into capsules (around 20mg maximum) and was wondering what size capsule would be best for this. Also can this all be carried out by hand?
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I use 0's but you could use even smaller ones, tho it would be a pain in the ass to fill. To fill the caps, i cut a hole in a gatorade lid just big enough to support a cap upright then i scrape the powder off my measuring tray into it using a piece of thick paper cut into a mini spatula (chemistry spatula not cooking). Its a slow process for making caps and thats one of the reasons why so many people use liquid measurements with RC's.

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Bagseed said:
i also snorted it a week ago, ~10mg divided into 4 bumps. there was a little pain while snorting but really not too bad. in fact, the taste was worse than the pain for me. btw is it normal to get bodyload and nausea from snorting? i heard that rectally administrated 2C-X give less to no bodyload/nausea and thought, that nasally would be pretty much the same. but me and my fellow trippers had that (not too intense, and it wen away after about 1-2hours and a little spliff smoked while laying down in the warm afternoon sun =D
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I rarely get a bodyload and have never had nausea from 2c-e so im not much help on this subject. I usually smoke some weed after dosing tho.
 
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SmokeNDose said:
I use 0's but you could use even smaller ones, tho it would be a pain in the ass to fill. To fill the caps, i cut a hole in a gatorade lid just big enough to support a cap upright then i scrape the powder off my measuring tray into it using a piece of thick paper cut into a mini spatula (chemistry spatula not cooking). Its a slow process for making caps and thats one of the reasons why so many people use liquid measurements with RC's.

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Thanks a lot! I plan to use capsules as I find it easier to carry around etc rather than liquid, I also find it easier to consume than my previous experiences of viles and oral syringes. Have you any idea how many mg of 2c-e a 0 capsule could hold?
 
It's easiest just to use a small straw cut diagonally on one end so it has a bit of a scoop on the end. Weigh the gel. I usually use single O gels which way between 88 and 102 mg (average 95 mg) so I weigh the gel a couple times to ensure I have consistent readings. If the gel consistently weighs 98 mg and I want a 17 mg dose of 2C-E I simply add 17 (the desired amount of 2C-E in mg) to 98, (the weight of the gel in mg) and use the straw to scoop a few small scoops of 2C-E until the gel consistently reads 115 (98 mg wight of the gel plus 17 mg weight of the 2C-E equals 115 mg).

A straw that is smaller in diameter than the single O gel is ideal, so the straw actually fits into the gel and decreases the chance of spillage. The material should be dosed on a clean dark surface so if there is minimal spillage, the spillage can be easily detected and retrieved.
 
An O capsule could hold over 250 mg of 2C-E probably. A regular dose only fills the bottom of the gel, but using smaller gel capsules becomes very tricky to handle, so I agree in recommending using a single O capsule. You could probably use a size smaller, but the smaller they get the harder they are to handle and you risk dropping gels in the middle of dosing them and losing powder.

I recommend weighing the gel and adding the amount of 2C-E you want to the weight of the gel rather than only weighing the powder as scales are usually more accurate when weighing larger amounts. I use a GemPro-250 and have had really good success with it so far. I don't know how reliable the really cheap e-bay scales are, but if you are using a cheaper scale I would definitely weigh the gel capsule and the material together, as they are even less accurate with weighing small amounts.
 
IDK why people snort this stuff..

it eats away at your nose man...its not good for it...

just eat it or plug it...

i shiver just thinking back to the time i snorted it....
 
stonerish said:
IDK why people snort this stuff..

it eats away at your nose man...its not good for it...

just eat it or plug it...

i shiver just thinking back to the time i snorted it....
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Faster onset, stronger effects, shorter duration - appealing to some people, for me more so than plugging especially.
 
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