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The Big & Dandy 2C-E thread (Reorganized)

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Sinister feel on acid? I don't have enough experience to say that's false, but I know it's never happened to me!

2C-E is very emotionally neutral, when somethings funny, I only think "that was funny" but often times won't even laugh, same with most other emotions.
 
nearjat said:
Does anyone else get VERY few mental effects at doses up to 20mg? Is it likely that more is necessary to have a REAL trip? I've done 10mg, 12mg, 15mg, and 20mg. None of them have altered anything but my senses.
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I get next to no mental effects on high 2c-e doses. Dont about 50mg equiv as my highest but even then it wasn't very mental. Sure I had the psychedelic mind frame and thought patterns, couldn't focus on stuff for too long, mind raced a mile a minute, but no mindfuck or anything like that.

And 2c-e is neutral as neutral can be for me :)
 
I've tried 2c-e once and it was only chilling out at my friends apartment and walking around outside the complex. It was a fairly small dose also. But my question is, Is 2c-e good for concert settings?
 
I think it would be great at a concert due to its very easy on the mind-ness. I would be on high doses and no one could tell, I had to tell them I was tripping. Everyone says I looked perfectly normal. Not to mention the intense music enhancement, I think it would work well at a concert.
 
Amazing for concerts. It's the most musical drug I've used. That doesn't mean it makes music simply sound amazing like with MDMA... It sounds quite similar to the way music sounds sober, but the synaesthesia, which is very precise rather than confusing, will allow you to analyze and feel every single note you hear. I'm a musician, though, so perhaps more pleasurable musical drugs would appeal more to some... Still worth trying.
 
Had my first experience with this drug today. Like an idiot I took an "eyeball" amount but i must say it was a life changing day. The body load was intense and I felt paranoia and large amounts of emotion. I did not know what to do with this all until my friend told me to man up and self analyze myself like he had done on acid. I had very deep conversations with him, my dad and my girlfriend and felt what true love was. This drug is amazing and very deep. I don't plan on using this drug nor any other drugs for a long while now. I feel like I need to get my life situated before I can explore and enjoy. I dunno, im still in shock. I took it 11 hours ago and just have body stings and such. I feel that the body load has a lot to do with self conflicts as I was in bad pain and my friend who took the same dose was not in any pain.
 
.Felix. said:
I feel that the body load has a lot to do with self conflicts as I was in bad pain and my friend who took the same dose was not in any pain.
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That's what they say - that 2c-e trips become easier and brighter the more you straighten things out in your life and with yourself. But, also, you simply can't ignore 2c-e. Whenever I let it go and went with the flow, i.e. listening to music => getting lost in music or thinking => getting DEEP in thinking, the trip was beautiful and with absolutely minimal body load.

Yet when I didn't yield to the trip and played video games and drank a bit of coffee - it was horrible and the body load was so unpleasant.

The point being - set & setting, and not just the general set (how things are with your life in general), but also the immediate set.

Anyway, I don't wanna trivialize your new revelations and insights. Let us know how long you retain them ;).
 
.Felix. said:
Had my first experience with this drug today. Like an idiot I took an "eyeball" amount but i must say it was a life changing day. The body load was intense...I feel that the body load has a lot to do with self conflicts as I was in bad pain and my friend who took the same dose was not in any pain.
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yeah man the body load aint gonna be nice if you fight it - but pain? really?? Was it like cramps? or what?

Can't say I've ever fought it myself, just lie back and take all it throws at you and come out of the experience knowing yourself more.
 
white_magic said:
That's what they say - that 2c-e trips become easier and brighter the more you straighten things out in your life and with yourself. But, also, you simply can't ignore 2c-e. Whenever I let it go and went with the flow, i.e. listening to music => getting lost in music or thinking => getting DEEP in thinking, the trip was beautiful and with absolutely minimal body load.

Yet when I didn't yield to the trip and played video games and drank a bit of coffee - it was horrible and the body load was so unpleasant.

The point being - set & setting, and not just the general set (how things are with your life in general), but also the immediate set.

Anyway, I don't wanna trivialize your new revelations and insights. Let us know how long you retain them ;).
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Yes, It did have very beautiful moments. I stood on a riverbed and watched the sunset in tears. I felt (being Christian) that I finally felt the love Jesus felt when he gave his life. The love was so beautiful and so strong. Nature looked like paradise and I wept at the beauty of life. My best friend also started to cry in front of me, this was a very new thing as he has never ever shown any feelings like this in front of me. 2c-e is so deep.
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yeah man the body load aint gonna be nice if you fight it - but pain? really?? Was it like cramps? or what?

Can't say I've ever fought it myself, just lie back and take all it throws at you and come out of the experience knowing yourself more.
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Pains I felt were something similar to MDMA when I have taken to high a dose such as Sharp stings in my arms and legs, spasms in my stomach (I had barely eaten anything all day, so that could be it) and stiffness. I vomited a few times and became very sweaty. At the end of my trip I felt exhausted and very sore. I still think this has a lot to do with my life and my anxiety caused by small unpleasant events that took place during the trip (running into my mom and her asking if I was okay and my girlfriend telling me she thinks she could be pregnant while I was tripping as well as me being paranoid she was mad at me for tripping that day.... when she wasn't) I now have realized what SET and setting are and that they must be perfect for me in order to have a peaceful and satisfying experience with ANY drug.
 
.Felix. said:
...running into my mom and her asking if I was okay and my girlfriend telling me she thinks she could be pregnant while I was tripping as well as me being paranoid she was mad at me for tripping that day.... when she wasn't) I now have realized what SET and setting are and that they must be perfect for me in order to have a peaceful and satisfying experience with ANY drug.
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Wow man I hope you are okay 8o! These are things that should never happen to someone while he is tripping. The mom encounter was unpredictable but the girlfriend part was so unecessary, did she know you took 2c-e?
That would have terrified me while tripping, especially on something as deep as 2c-e
 
This is rather strange, but has anyone experienced itching during or after a large dose of 2C-E? I took 35 mg RA Thursday and I've had itching episodes several times a day since. Occasionally, a rash will break out, but go away after 15 minutes or so of itchiness. It's much more subtle than an opiate itch, but rather maddening nonetheless.

Regardless of that particular side effect, I feel I've hit a bit of a wall as far as dosage goes... I found 35 mg powerful and mostly pleasurable, but the mental associations I'd form with incoming visual and, mostly aural, stimuli, were so off-the-wall that I'd often forget what I was actually listening to or looking at and lose my focus. Every time I'd begin to experience ego dissolution, I'd be caught off guard by some totally bizarre nostalgic connection, think "what the hell does that have to do with anything?" and repeat the process. Perhaps next time on a dose this high I won't smoke as much weed...
 
fuck felix!! that sounds awful!! that sounds a BIT like what happened to me on my 2nd 2C-E trip - which was eyeballed at about 12-14mg insufflated!! not funny - my friend called me up as I was peaking to tell me he'd been robbed of all his money & drugs at a dirty techno squat rave while he was napping for a lil while, and they waited for him to wake up so they could smack him about a bit! not cool, put me in an awful state...
 
hello everyone. aright so swim obtained half a gram of 2c-e, yet swim has no scale to use. What would be the best method for eyeballing a dose? Swim wants to insufflate for a first time dose, so should he just do a small bump at first? Does a bump equal around 5mg?
 
fyi this is a swim-free board :)

I can't tell you the best method for achieving desired dosage with 2c-e, since I'm not sure what 2c-e is soluble in. When you find that out, an easy way to get the amount you want is to dissolve 500g in a litre of solute; dissolved thoroughly, 2ml=1g and it's easy math from there. The downside is that you then have your whole 500g in solution, which I believe doesn't store very well. Don't quote me on it.

But as far as eyeballing... if you value your health, your life and your sanity, don't do it. It's dumb. If you have enough money for rc's you have enough money for a decent scale. Just buy one. Wait until it comes. Especially with a drug like 2c-e that requires small doses has an enormously non-linear response curve.

Don't eyeball.
 
Papa said:
I can't tell you the best method for achieving desired dosage with 2c-e, since I'm not sure what 2c-e is soluble in. When you find that out, an easy way to get the amount you want is to dissolve 500g in a litre of solute; dissolved thoroughly, 2ml=1g and it's easy math from there. The downside is that you then have your whole 500g in solution, which I believe doesn't store very well. Don't quote me on it.
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One should also, of course, note that - if you have no scale - you don't really know that you have half a gram of 2C-E in the first place; so at least get yourself a scale good enough to weigh 500 mg reasonably precisely before attempting liquid measurement. :)

And incidentally... might it not be worth trying 2C-E via the oral route first before attempting intranasal?
 
^ Right. Yeah, that's a really good point.

I think the moral of the story is - get a scale. You'll not only do yourself a favour, but you'll do all rc enthusiasts a favour by keeping your potential overdose out of the media. Don't mean to be blunt. But don't die. I'm sure you're a great guy. Get a scale.
 
i can't really get a scale at the moment and the one I have I don't trust. I've heard of bad reactions to the drug, thats why I was thinking maybe just snort a small bump? I'm sure that wouldn't make me OD and die.

I didn't want to try and eye ball 10mg or anything, i just want to start low 3-5mg but I don't trust my scale for that measurement. I guess even if someone does know the general size of a 5mg pile, that wouldn't help me out much since potency can vary. I know sniffing RC is dumb, but I want to start as low as possible.
 
No, you won't die. You should know that equal volumes don't mean equal mass, so it's not reliable to eyeball small amounts, even bumps.

If you do have a semi-accurate scale, use liquid measurement.
 
to be quite blunt, i want to snort it for my first time. i know i won't be able to accurately eyeball .05, so i will take a real small amount and go from there i guess
 
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