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The Big & Dandy 2C-E thread (Reorganized)

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50 mgs orally was pretty damn intense for me

I even threw up a bit but after I hurled I was fine , I smoked some herb and chilled out

I let the visuals and body high overtake me as I gazed out into the clouds

The whole ground was moving a bout and I felt a strong connection to the earth <3

Towards the end of the night when the sun came down I built a fire and watched the flames dance until the sun came up. Ive always drank a bit of booze to ease the tension at times too. I find drink or two on the come down helps you to get to sleep earlier.

After trips like that Ive decided to move on for awhile to something else. I'd really like to work on my ketamine trips. Thats something I can see entertaining me for months =D
 
^^Please realize that Cosmic Charlie has significant tolerance (either natural or induced) to 2C-E. Many people find even 20mg oral to be overwhelmingly intense. KoreyS, the substance you describe in your post does not sound like 2C-E. I think what you have is either very impure or a different chemical completely. Proceed with caution.
 
My 2nd time doing 2ce I accidentally dosed wrong and ended up taking 20mg. Strangely enough it wasn't as intense as I would have thought even though erowid and other sites listed 20mg as a heavy dose.
 
hey

After I snorted 0.7 g of Mephedrone during the day I'm thinking about doing my first 2c-e trip this very evening. Any thoughts?

Yeah, I DO know how powerful 2c-e can be so I'm thinking about a rather low dose like 10mg (I'm quite a big guy so I guess this is pretty low). If something like a totally unexpected hard trip should occur I have bromazepam to back me up.
 
Transcendence said:
^^Please realize that Cosmic Charlie has significant tolerance (either natural or induced) to 2C-E.
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Yeah my first few trips were around 15 mgs and I was very happy with that. But as time moved on I kept upping and upping the dose until I ceased using it. Very fun drug but It's not the type of thing you can keep doing regularly for ever. I'm sure that in a few years I'll wanna explore it once again but as of now I'm taking a break.

The last few times I took it I got some pretty bad side effects

I figure I'll quit while I'm ahead :)
 
I did 20mg and it might have been a little bit pushy but not overwhelming. My mental set was one of tension and I didn't like the trip at all but it might be a good dose for some. If I do it again I'll probably take somewhere around 20 again, maybe 1 or 2mg less.

I just know 12mg plugged is too much and comes too fast. Learnt that one the hard way. :\
 
I took 12mgs plugged last night. Very good time. It was not overly intense. I was expecting much more in the way of visuals, but unless I completely "dropped-out" in complete blackness there wasn't much. I have the feeling that if I smoked they would have really kicked in. Still, at the peak I got tremendous body euphoria, which I was not expecting from 2C-E. It was a more pure and natural feeling (almost tryptamine like) than the euphoria from 2C-I though. 2C-I felt great, but at the same time it felt like the body buzz was the result of something "wrong" with my body. Kind of hard to explain. Anyway, this is really the most emotionally neutral psychedelic I've tried. I usually get swept up in my emotions (for good or for bad) when on psychs, but I felt almost no effect on my mood from 2C-E. This truly is a classy drug. %)

A few hours in I kind of got a little irresponsible and got stuck in the "This is great but I need to trip HARDER" mindset. I ate ~60 mg 2C-C and that added a nice edge to the experience for a couple hours. Then I railed 10mg 2C-T-7 (stupid I know but I was feeling like a rock star after tripping balls and watching concert dvds 8) ) Didn't really do too much, though that's probably a good thing.

All in all it was a pretty good trifecta experience. I might have to write a trip report on it sometime.
 
Hm I took 11-12mg oral this morning. Felt a lot like 18-20mg of 2c-i. Minor visuals, some slight body buzz and strange thoughts. I didn't find it overly insightful though, I'll have to try 15mg next time.
 
Prea said:
Hm I took 11-12mg oral this morning. Felt a lot like 18-20mg of 2c-i. Minor visuals, some slight body buzz and strange thoughts. I didn't find it overly insightful though, I'll have to try 15mg next time.
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I've experienced this as well, Prea. At lower doses 2C-E, at least for me, feels like a very generic phenethylamine high with a negligible mental shift. Worry not, though. Take 16-18 mg and things start getting a lot less mentally cozy than they are with 2C-I. 2C-E WeirdSpace FTW. :D
 
What is the highest dose of 2C-E that you guys found useful, or at least somewhat enjoyable? My highest dose to date (taking into account ROA) has been 12 mg rectally. It was a very positive experience, but not overly intense. Next time I dose it'll probably be orally. I'm not saying that I'm going to jump right into a 30 mg dose or something right away. I'm just curious.

Also, how badly does the nausea ramp up with higher doses (over 20 mg)? I found 2C-E to produce virtually no nausea at doses lower than 20 mg, unlike 2C-I and 2C-T-7.

I seem to be a little more hard-headed with PEAs than the average individual. The tendency of 2C-E to produce a much more neutral headspace than other 2C-x's makes me more willing to experiment at the upper dosages (while still maintaining a reasonable level of responsibility). I could see myself losing control of 2C-I and especially 2C-T-7 at higher doses because they both severely affect my capacity for judgment and logic. Of course I'm sure that 2C-E does as well to some extent, but not nearly the same degree (except perhaps at very high doses).
 
Transcendence said:
What is the highest dose of 2C-E that you guys found useful, or at least somewhat enjoyable? My highest dose to date (taking into account ROA) has been 12 mg rectally. It was a very positive experience, but not overly intense. Next time I dose it'll probably be orally. I'm not saying that I'm going to jump right into a 30 mg dose or something right away. I'm just curious.

Also, how badly does the nausea ramp up with higher doses (over 20 mg)? I found 2C-E to produce virtually no nausea at doses lower than 20 mg, unlike 2C-I and 2C-T-7.

I seem to be a little more hard-headed with PEAs than the average individual. The tendency of 2C-E to produce a much more neutral headspace than other 2C-x's makes me more willing to experiment at the upper dosages (while still maintaining a reasonable level of responsibility). I could see myself losing control of 2C-I and especially 2C-T-7 at higher doses because they both severely affect my capacity for judgment and logic. Of course I'm sure that 2C-E does as well to some extent, but not nearly the same degree (except perhaps at very high doses).
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Although it was entirely externally provoked, a very bad trip on 25mg of 2C-E (oral) produced some failures in judgment and logic lol. I became entirely convinced that the neighborhood was up in flames, complete with hallucinations of fire engines and road block, and aural hallucinations of sirens and screaming. All because I smelled a campfire in that horrible head space that MOTHERFUCKER forced onto me.

:D
 
Transcendence said:
What is the highest dose of 2C-E that you guys found useful, or at least somewhat enjoyable? My highest dose to date (taking into account ROA) has been 12 mg rectally. It was a very positive experience, but not overly intense. Next time I dose it'll probably be orally. I'm not saying that I'm going to jump right into a 30 mg dose or something right away. I'm just curious.

Also, how badly does the nausea ramp up with higher doses (over 20 mg)? I found 2C-E to produce virtually no nausea at doses lower than 20 mg, unlike 2C-I and 2C-T-7.

I seem to be a little more hard-headed with PEAs than the average individual. The tendency of 2C-E to produce a much more neutral headspace than other 2C-x's makes me more willing to experiment at the upper dosages (while still maintaining a reasonable level of responsibility). I could see myself losing control of 2C-I and especially 2C-T-7 at higher doses because they both severely affect my capacity for judgment and logic. Of course I'm sure that 2C-E does as well to some extent, but not nearly the same degree (except perhaps at very high doses).
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12mg rectally ripped me apart. It's not the strength of a trip that makes me get anxious; it's the speed at which it hits. Taking an oral 2C takes 2 hours of a smooth come up, but rectally is 20 minutes of thrashing straight to full strength.

12mg rectal took me by surprise but 20mg oral was alright and I could have gone higher. I didn't experience any real nausea. I should mention that 12mg rectal dose made me hurl my guts out quite strongly. Oral dosing allows it to come up smoother but the plugged dose kicked in so fast i got the butterflies and hurled. Oral dosing might actually be easier on your stomach than rectal.

20mg would be a good starting point, go up from there :)
 
Hey guys,

Never done psychedelics before, only weed. Recently got 125mg of 2c-e and 9 hits of (what's supposed to be) very clean, powerful LSD, somewhere between 100-180ug per hit.

I'm trying psychedelics mostly because I've got "social anxiety disorder"... basically just extremely insecure and self conscious all the time. I have had some "breakthroughs" due to some crazy events in the past year where I "snapped out" of it and had a total personality change but I keep falling back into my old patterns so I wanna try something more radical.

Would you guys recommend I try my LSD or 2c-e first? I know it's not an exact science, but hey, any advice from experienced trippers would be great.

How much should I take of 2c-e for a first time? Note: I WANT an earth shattering, perspective shifting experience VERY badly.

Oh yeah, and how do I measure out a quantity of 2c-e? Is this good enough method?:

http://www.oldwillknottscales.com/proscale-gemological10.aspx

Oh and also, I've been on SSRIs for the past couple months (Prozac), it didn't do shit, but I wanna make sure it doesn't interfere with the power of my trip. How long should I give it to get out of my system (stopped taking it 2 days ago)
 
Hi, Nox. Welcome to BL and PD :)

Personally I would go with LSD over 2C-E if you are new to psyches as 2C-E can be heavy going - especially in terms of bodyload. It's also well worth starting low with 2C-E for the same reasons. A "good" dose varies a lot between individuals - some find 10mg to be overwhelming and some find double that to be underwhelming. Most find 15-20mg to be the sweetspot but you really need to find your own through a bit of judicious titration :)

Those scales are similar to the ones I use for weighing 2C-doses but are probably not really accurate enough for 2C-E as it's so much more pernickity to dose than most other 2Cs. You may want to look into Liquid Measurement to dose more precisely. Check out The Big and Dandy Scale Thread for recommendations of good scales and maybe The Big and Dandy Psychotropic Medications and Supplements Interaction Thread for SSRI interaction info. Most find it blocks/reduces the effect of many psyches though. I'd give it a week at least to clear your system if I were you but I get horrible withdrawals from SSRIs so tend to exercise extreme caution with them :|
 
Doesn't 2c-e have less of a chance of making me "go crazy" than LSD though? And I've heard that while it's less visual/euphoric it's more likely to induce ++++ trips and therapeutic/problem solving.

BTW I'll be tripping alone in my house (don't have any friends nearby that are into it, and I think I'd pick up bad vibes off them cause they'd probably judge me for it---they just don't know any better)
 
There's little to no chance of any psyche making you "go crazy" so I wouldn't worry about that side of thing, Nox :)

LSD often has a pretty euphoric push to it whereas 2C-E is notoriousl more "neutral". This makes the latter useful for "problem solving" trips but also makes is much easier to head into "bad" trip territory, in my opinion. As to the visuals, not really relevant for the kinda use you have planned but both can be extremely visual or not at all. Depends a lot on...

The Big and Dandy Set & Setting Thread and The Big and Dandy First-Time-Tripper-Thread - more for your Further Reading list :D
 
My first psych drug was 2c-e... I made very stupid beginner mistakes and am very lucky the universe didn't punish me for them. I orally consumed 15mg of 2c-e and about an hour later still didn't feel anything and assumed I had under-dosed (First mistake). I dosed another 10mg and in about 45 minutes didn't feel anything... so I again made the mistake of trying to elevate the experience. I snorted 5mg... and it burned like nothing I had ever snorted before.... but ten minutes later... and I just felt a little... different. So I snorted another 8mg... and was ready to give up.

I left my dark bedroom to go to the restroom and call it a night when my light turned on and I was thrown into an almost alternate reality... the mirror showed me how alien I perceived my body to be... and just how foreign this all was. I proceeded to lay down and left my body for about 6 hours of some hellishly intense psychotherapy.

My real mistake was not realizing it can take 2 hours to come up on 2c-e... and continuing to redose. I also had done countless hours of research on the compound... but I didn't feel like I was experiencing what I had read about. A simple change of environment was all I needed.

Now-a-days, I dose with ~15mg... sometimes 18mg for intense trips. I get everything I need from it (including a heavy trip) but I get the chance to direct the trip in some ways... and experience it... instead of being launched from it.

Which to try first? It depends on your personality really... they are both heavily logic based trips... but acid has more of a creative feel to me... it also breaks a lot of logic statements and can go pretty far out there... sometimes bordering on an edge of insanity feel.

I would suggest what you are looking for is a 15-18mg 2c-e trip or a ~300ug LSD trip. (After judicious titration).

Sorry for the verbosity... but I felt like sharing my first psychedelic experience... and warning you to not take more thinking you aren't tripping...as it can easily be a horrible mistake.
 
Is it *that* risky to hop right in to a 15-18 mg 2ce trip or multiple hit LSD trip?

Reason I ask is that my parents are gonna be gone for a week setting my sis up in college (I'm 21 and in college but staying with them for the summer because they're normally overseas and I never see them) and this is THE best possible opportunity I have to be in a safe environment (my house) with no distractions whatsoever.

Next time I'll trip I'll probably have to take a bus or something to some remote area, hike for a couple hours and then trip.

Plus honestly I just CAN'T wait. I want more than just a little morphing trip.
 
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