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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-B Thread - Stage 2

Axed said:
That sounds incredible! The visuals were very detailed... I wish I had taken time to explore the CEVs.

However, I later realized that my scale was off by 10mg at the time. So I only took 15mg of 2C-B instead of 25, which makes a lot more sense.
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took about 30mg with a good amount of mxe a week or so ago. Turned the mhole from dark and drab to super colorful. Well, it was way more than that, but thats a basic.
 
epic11 said:
How often can one take 2c-b as far as harm reduction is concerned?
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I replaced MDMA with 2c-b a years ago for going to clubs and took quite a bit over the course of a couple of years. I didn't suffer any of the effects typical to, say, stimulant abuse - i.e impaired memory, concentration etc.

I did suffer mental effects though; for example increased synchronicity, so that's something to watch out for. HPPD is also something to watch out for.
 
2c-b don't seem to be as tolerance forming as other psychedelics but its know for forming HPPD when abused.
Probably no more than once every 2-4 weeks. But even that could probably wear you out after awhile
 
I took 2c-b about 5 hours into an LSD trip while hiking in Big Sur a couple years ago. Some of the most beautiful scenery and feelings I've ever experienced. Still managed to somehow get into fight with GF during the trip, but I think that's mostly because she was a crazy bitch? Damn harvard girls. Always told her she was going to make a GREAT attorney hehe.

Anyway, I've been hearing for years about using 2c-b on MDMA comedown. I have not taken MDMA in several years, and am hesitant to try it again. If I were to, it would have to be epic and in a great set & setting. I am curious, has anyone here ACTUALLY TRIED using 2c-b at the tail end of an MDMA trip? It just sounds incredibly counterintuitive. I cannot imagine putting a psychedelic drug in my body after gurning hard for 3 hours.
 
cryptix420 said:
I took 2c-b about 5 hours into an LSD trip while hiking in Big Sur a couple years ago. Some of the most beautiful scenery and feelings I've ever experienced. Still managed to somehow get into fight with GF during the trip, but I think that's mostly because she was a crazy bitch? Damn harvard girls. Always told her she was going to make a GREAT attorney hehe.

Anyway, I've been hearing for years about using 2c-b on MDMA comedown. I have not taken MDMA in several years, and am hesitant to try it again. If I were to, it would have to be epic and in a great set & setting. I am curious, has anyone here ACTUALLY TRIED using 2c-b at the tail end of an MDMA trip? It just sounds incredibly counterintuitive. I cannot imagine putting a psychedelic drug in my body after gurning hard for 3 hours.
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2c-b at the tail end of MDMA is a fantastic combo. I much prefer it to LSD+2c-b although my doses were probably too high for that one. There's a wonderful synergy with MDMA. The 2c-b seems to enhance the psychedelic properties of the MDMA and gave me some of the best CEVs I've ever had, very organic and watercolor-like. At one point I was seeing pyramids and brief flashes of entities.
 
I've recently experimented with this stuff having two different batches of HBr salt.
The first one was very white and it got me highest I've ever been with only 20mg. 10mg at a party with the same batch was very different from the first experience. It was more rolly than psychedelic. Kind of like LSD and MDMA combo.
The second batch had a brown/dark amber tint to it and I believe it's cut with something. Both batches tested positive with Marquis but trying the second one with 20mg only gave me a mild psychedelic experience (which was actually nice but not what I expected).
So all three times I tried the substance I had three completely different experiences. If I didn't know it was 2-CB I probably would have though it was different substances all along.
 
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I've never seen 2C-B that was dark brown/amber colored... sounds quite degraded or quite impure. I have had 2C-B HCl, which is white, and HBr, which is sort of gray colored. HCl is more potent by weight by a good bit so that batch was better for sure.
 
Xorkoth said:
I've never seen 2C-B that was dark brown/amber colored... sounds quite degraded or quite impure. I have had 2C-B HCl, which is white, and HBr, which is sort of gray colored. HCl is more potent by weight by a good bit so that batch was better for sure.
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Yes I do believe it was slightly degraded or maybe even cut with something. It's mostly white though with just a hint of brown. I was doing some research and it seems that brown tint can occur due to bromine not being washed out properly. Kind of like brown MDMA which wasn't entirely purified in the last steps of synthesis. I believe bromine crystals can contain various impurities which means that brown stuff is just not very clean. I'm not a chemist though.

I have never tried HCl yet but I heard it's less water soluble than HBr which would make volumetric liquid measurement more difficult. And HCl is supported to be worse to insufflate. HBr was already pretty terrible. Railing 5mg left me feeling feverish and as if I had my nose broken but it only lasted a few minutes. Can't even imagine doing it with HCl...
 
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I hadn't realized that 2C-B HCl is less soluble, but certainly it could be dissolved to 1mg/mL concentration anyway. I always just weighed doses dry though since 2C-B is not very potent.
 
^ yes unless you need to weigh out multiple doses at once then it gets tricky to have even doses. Not everyone has precision 0.0001g lab scales hehe
 
I don't either, I have a .001g cheap scale, cost me $25. For something like 2C-B it's plenty accurate, if someone's dose is +/- 2mg it doesn't really have much impact.
 
Is a gem20 good enough for this? I wish to take a huge tbreak and maybe do 2c-b+1p-lsd for my birthday
 
^ ^ I guess I got unlucky with that scale - mine was a piece of junk that never worked properly. If you check the online reviews for the Gemini-20 it's hit and miss. You're either lucky and get one that works or unlucky and don't. I use a Gempro 250 and it works like a charm, very stable readings and has a solid feel to it. Costs a lot more though.
 
I've owned 2 Gemini-20s and they've both been fine. I mean they can vary by +/- 2mg, but I only use it directly for substances where that doesn't matter. For something like DOC I weigh out a larger mass and then use liquid measurement. It also helps to not tare the scale after putting the tray on it... for some reason when it reads 0mg it's less accurate. If I don't tare the scale it reads like 2645mg, and I just put the substance on there with that weight already on and do some math. Seems to register weights much better when there is already weight being read.
 
I am on my 3rd gemini 20 (first two didn't break, were discarded for other reasons), all have worked fine. Like xorkoth says, weigh up your drug with the scale allready reading the tray it comes with. I actually use two dimes and a quarter as a base. Always use the same dimes and quarter, helps to make sure I don't need to calibrate or new batteries. Weight is usually off +/- 4mg or so. Doing this method, I would say the scale is extremely reliable and fine to use unless you are doing 5mg or less.

Also, is the general consensus that any type of brown 2c-b is going to be significantly decreased in potency?
 
^ the brown tint batch I had was not decreased in potency significantly but I'd say it felt somewhat 20-25% weaker than the pure white stuff. To be honest, it could've just been cut with something and not really degraded. Once I get more of the same batch, I will send a sample over to wedinos to find out what's happening in there.
 
It could just be HBr, as the HCl I've seen has always been white and the HBr has not been white, but light gray, I could see how brown could be a tint to it too. And the HBr is about that much weaker by weight.
 
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