Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-B Thread - Stage 2

[Esperighanto]

Oh god, I also made a nasal spray once. That was a terrible idea. Whoever said that it was less painfully nasally as a spray was a liar.

I made mine to microdose with so it's only 1mg/spray. Oddly enough Etizolam's nasally active almost instantaneously upon administration, so I often hit both at the same time lol. Dual wielding nasal sprayers feels like being one of those people with four cigarettes between their fingers smoking them like a harmonica though, it just feels goofy as hell.

2C-B in liquid form is honestly superior for dosing easily, going 20mg/mL has done me better than going dropwise, dropwise is never that accurate. Good for compact movement of huge amounts of 2C-B in discrete ways.

 

[Didgital]

ket isn't a tranquilizer

Ketamine is a dissasociative anesthetic, but that doesn't mean it can't be used as a tranquilizer.

Tranquilizer: a medicinal drug taken to reduce tension or anxiety.

Ketamine has been used as a tranquilizer on animals since forever, and it has been used as a tranquilizer on humans.

Killing of Elijah McClain - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://www.annemergmed.com/article/S0196-0644(16)00003-2/abstract

2cb isn't a stimulant

Right on the first paragraph of the wiki:

"The existing studies primarily classify 2C-B as a stimulant and hallucinogen, and less commonly an entactogen and empathogen.[3]"

2C-B - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I would agree though it is a very nice combo. I felt like I was floating.

 

[GulpingBatteryLiquid]

When I last did Ketamine+2CB I was watching a Spandau Ballet music video on the telly and thought the singers were trying to communicate with me

It's a fun mix

 

[Shinji Ikari]

I re-read my original post and I should have worded it better. Anyway...

"The existing studies primarily classify 2C-B as a stimulant and hallucinogen, and less commonly an entactogen and empathogen.[3]"

2C-B isn't a stimulant, it's never been a stimulant. It may have stimulating properties and some degree of dopamine agonism but so does LSD, so does mescaline, so do most phenethylamine psychedelics. Are we going to start calling those stimulants too now?

I appreciate that a drug can be more than one thing, but labeling 2C-B a stimulant is just misleading and why a Wikipedia editor thought that plucking out a random study from 2015 to redefine a drug which has been clearly defined and it's effects documented for decades is beyond me.

Ketamine has been used as a tranquilizer on animals since forever, and it has been used as a tranquilizer on humans

Well, okay, fine, but please put this in context against the post I responding to. Conventional tranquilisers such as benzodiazapines may have the effect of 'slowing down' the intensity of a psychedelic drug (or indeed a stimulant) but ketamine will have the opposite effect and potentiate the effects. I'm not trying to be a pedant but I thought it was important to point this out for the purposes of harm reduction so that people don't try combining these drugs with the wrong expectations.

Again, I should have worded my original post better. @specialrelativity please accept my apologies if I came accoss as rude or combative.

 

[iom]

Today I stepped up to 18 mg of 2C-B HBr. I don't know the HCl equivalent, especially given varying hydrates and shit, so perhaps it's roughly the same as 14 mg of HCl? I had a beautiful day. Overall the trip felt much smoother on the body than the 12 mg trip I took in early spring. I don't think this is because of the larger dose but because my body is reacting differently than it used to. I believe I'm in better health, too.

It's interesting that it took me several tries to "get to know" 2C-B, but now that I know it better, I like it a lot. This was the biggest dose I've ever taken, and next time I think I will step up to either 22 or 24 mg of HBr. I had plenty of visuals, but they were rather faint and subtle. I definitely got weaker visuals than I did on my 14-15 mg 2C-I trip in early August.

 

[deficiT]

I took a pretty large 2cb dose last weekend (or the weekend before?) and then combined it with FXE. It was pretty fun, but probably don't need to dose that high again lol. I tried 40mg. I think yeah the perfect dose is going to be 20-25mg, like others have noted.

 

[Leprechaun]

Went on a 16km run on 18mg 2C-B.

Was fantastic. Only recommended if you have been training. But a well worthwhile experience.

Running absolutely does limit the effects however.


Next up I’ll be trying it on 5mg DOM.