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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-B-Fly Thread

I took 16 mg of 2CB-fly yesterday too. It was really nice, although the whole experience was rather mild.

It was actually much less euphoric than I had expected, as I think 2CB is one of the most euphoric psychedelics I've ever tried, and I had expected the fly version to be on par with 2CB in this aspect, but it wasn't imo. I really didn't find it that empathogenic either, but that might have been due to the setting, because I was at a rave and a bit drunk when I took it.

I can totally relate to what you guys are saying though, I think it's a question rather of how one defines euphoria and empathogenesis (is that even a word? Lol) I totally agree though, that it is very clearheaded and non-druggy.

To me, it was just very pleasent, happy and carefree :) A completely non-threatening intoxication. I think it felt really safe.
Clearly psychedelic, but not very visual. And I think It did feel like a phenethylamine, imo. No side effects at all, and the come up was very smooth. In some ways it reminded me of BOD, but this just felt better and was more fun.

Next time I'll up the dose a bit too, and I'd buy a gram or two as well if I could, that's for sure. :)
 
Nice... any plans to take it at a higher dose? I took it at 18mg years back and loved the experience very much. I think I'd go for 20mg if I get to try it again.
 
Around the 23-27mg mark was my preferred dose in the mid-2000s when 2C-B-FLY was common. 35mg was my highest dose, had 10 hour duration, strong visuals and could be quite physically unpleasant at times.

Can't wait to try this compound again. I will have to search for it now that it seems to be making a return.
 
@Xorkoth. Yes, I think I'll be taking 20 mg next time, and maybe try sublingual. I was also considering doing a combo with something like 30-40 ug of LSD, not more though than that though, because it might drown the fly :)
 
Xorkoth said:
Nice... any plans to take it at a higher dose? I took it at 18mg years back and loved the experience very much. I think I'd go for 20mg if I get to try it again.
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It seems 12-15 mg for empatogenic trip.

I also think 20 mg oraly will be preferable for most to feel psychedelic trip.

We tryed 25mg ,but it was redosing after first try and it was without any noticible side effects too.


Very good news that we dont felt any vasoconstriction (cold arms and legs)
and lungs hyperventilation (too many oxygen can cause unpleasant feelings,as from mdma for example,which also can associated with serotonin hole,but actualy in most case it is holotropic breath,unless you take mdma week in a raw with redosing)

It gives offcourse anxiety next day,but for now not sure about any noticable sideefects.Will research it again soon.

Offcourse individual sensivity is still very important.
 
Fagott said:
@Xorkoth. Yes, I think I'll be taking 20 mg next time, and maybe try sublingual. I was also considering doing a combo with something like 30-40 ug of LSD, not more though than that though, because it might drown the fly :)
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It could be nice "candy flip" if 2cb-fly will be somewhere at 10 mg.
Write back about 20 mg too.

Oh I just have an idea to try 4ho-met ,2cb-fly combo for something like "hippie flip". Sound really good,but I must try it. Will write back too.
 
nanobrain said:
^i concur, 2C-B-FLY will certainly accelerate the onset and changing of moods, not only after, but even during - especially if interacting with others who are not on 2C-B-FLY, moving somnabulistically at a slow ass rate.

2C-B-FLY may impart a certain feeling of 'righteousness' to one's motives and opinions, be this actually the case or not.

several times, the self control reins had to be yanked hard in order to avoid proving the righteousness of my arguement in a very physical fashion (ok, granted, the idiots needed a'killin but normally i prefer the nonviolent appoach) - and escalation happens very fast.
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B9 said:
I also experienced the *quickness to anger* that you both mentioned, only the day after in my case though.




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Yes it was the same to me too. Not this relaxed feeling after deep trip.I thought it was nervous anxiety after an insane week, but it is side effect of fly.
Good that only one noticible so far.
 
Xorkoth said:
Weird, I felt an amazing and calm afterglow when I did it.
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Yes it could be different in psyche constitution in different peoples. It is so called psychomotoric answers from outer surroundings. There are people type who quickly react on outside-inside stimuls. That's why 2cb-fly can provoke this type of reaction. It is dificult to control for tham and due to increased perception it feels like side effects. In fact this is only what I have inside me,my own psyche become more sensitive for my own reaction.
I can feel it not only from 2cb-fly,sometimes from another psychedelics too,but i learn better from another psychedelics. I could feel from where it goes and why.That was a different.

But as I mentioned before this was on second day trip after redosing and double up dose. So it was a bad idea for me.

And yes I also must mention that my wife is totaly different.She is calm and she was not feel this state of reaction even on 2nd day.
I was feel great after the first try too. Nice feelings,very therapeutical.So yes it is not so underlined about "quickeness to anger" ,but if someone like me had it set and setting is a must. Nothing new :)
 
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is there anyone on this thread that can help me through a bad bromo dragonfly experience. Ive done it before and have a large amount of blotters of it. tnioght i somehow took too much and am struggling. Havent been able to find anyone to talk to all night so I have been pounding beers. I think im on like my tenth one and it feels good then i feel it wearing off and i feel the horrible bromo getting stronger. And a hangover so i keep drinking. If I had someone to talk to it would help immensely. I hope I dont get banned from bluelihg tof r for this because I love bluelight and everyone on it. You guys are amazing and have helped me though so much. Im sorry for posting on the wrong threads. Im tripping to hard to understand where to find a beetter thread ive tried. just someone hit me up please
 
does anyone know if taking cayenne pepper for it's vassodialating properties can do more harm than good for bromo dragonfly vassoconstriction? I'm peaking and having a hard time dealing with this tips please sorry I can't really type at this point
 
How are you doing now mate?
Cayenne pepper can help, you can take it in gel caps and perhaps with a smoothy or something like that to have something in your stomach, at least I would think it to be nicer that way but honestly I haven't had to try it yet. Hope you are doing better.
 
Shamanism said:
How are you doing now mate?
Cayenne pepper can help, you can take it in gel caps and perhaps with a smoothy or something like that to have something in your stomach, at least I would think it to be nicer that way but honestly I haven't had to try it yet. Hope you are doing better.
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thank you so much. I'm not going better. just when I think I am I get hit by an even harder wave than before. out of desperation I bought a couple bags of dope and it provided relief and euphoria for such a brief time until a wave of bromo came and swept it away. I'm going on two days now of physical and mental anguish. this is a very unrelenting drug and there is a huge difference between a one and two mg dose. I have enjoyed many one mg trips before and I belief I took two mg this time and it is exponentially more hardcore and toxic feeling. I get such a heavy psychedelic body load feeling that I start like nodding out because it becomes too much to handle then I snap back into it. hopefully I'm going to be alright ,vmmmmmmmm =/
 
very funny. I'm sorry my life is a mess and I turn to you guys for help but I trust bluelight more than anything and when I'm drowning in a toxin like bdf yes I come here I can't think for myself and I'm afraid of making decisions that can put me in a body bag. I am almost sure I overdosed now because this is day 3 and it's not letting up. I don't know how much longer I can deal with this. is bromism possible with BDF?
 
^ I don't think you could get bromine toxicity by ingesting this drug.

If it still isn't getting better, maybe seek medical attention, they'll probably give you a 5HT-antagonist of some sort..

have you slept since your dose? sleep deprivation will make things much worse.
 
@mygreenbic How are you doing? Hope you made it through in good health.

I was very pleased today to find an express envelope containing 100mg 2C-B-FLY in my mailbox and am very exited to finally be able to test this chem. %)
 
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