☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy 25I-NBOMe Thread - 4th Instance

[Reverend Random]

Since today I've been wondering the same thing. How do we know that NB2OMe is the one that's on the market? Afaik the labs in my country can't tell the difference. I am also curious to know what the differences might be.

 

[kidklmx]

How do Dutch labs test their chemicals? (hearing noises about reagent tests a bit too much, why would you need anyone else to do that?) The spectra are different so if they do any specific testing, then identification shouldn't be that hard right?

Maybe too close to synth-discussion but if you need an entirely different route then there's no reason we'd have anything else then NB2OMe. If you don't and you need to separate the different NBxOMes, like you do with isomers, then there's a good chance we have a "racemic" mixture of sorts. Thinking out loud here but I hope I'm making sense here

 

[psynami]

GC-MS or LC-DAD if I am not mistaken. Reagents are only used in the testcenter I think.

Usually it is quite difficult to differentiate between different isomeres (correct me if it is the wrong term) I heard. For example it isnt always easy to differentiate between 3-MMC and 4-MMC.

Anybody else has an idea about the different options?

 

[weadazoid]

Why not? What difference does the concentration make? If anything the denser the better for putting up your nose as you don't have to worry about leakage, and for me personally .1ml was about the threshold at which my nose could retain the liquid.

I would worry too much about overdose, there isn't much room for error, if a bit of liquid evaps overtime all of a sudden you are at 1.2 to 1.5 mg for just one spray.

I have had the opportunity to snort this stuff, and my .2 ml contained around 500 mics. Now granted I plopped it down on some glass, let the alcochol evap just a bit by blowing on it then snorted it up with a straw.... kinda like liquid cocaine.

It was every interesting, I expected less of a body high, because of a rapid absorption, but luckily this wasn't the case. I know I could handle 1mg, but seeing how 500 ug had some pretty powerful moments in that first hour, I would probably go to 800 mics.

Now I am still just using a good oral syringe so that is why I say 'around' 800 mics know way to know if I am maybe 50 to 100 mics off. This is why I always try to stay on the shy side rather then the heavy side

 

[Solipsis]

What about making a slightly more diluted solution and applying the liquid dose to a small amount, say ~50 mg, of inert snortable powder carrier such as mannitol or inositol or whatever? Gives you the advantages of snorting a powder (no drip, less variance due to different droplet volumes) but not the usual risks of using a solid carrier such as hotpocketing?
If you start with a known mass of carrier powder in a baggie and always take use the exact same weighed mass and always take it from that baggie, you can even calculate the evaporation from your drug solution since the carrier powder does not evaporate.

 

[kidklmx]

Well here's a good post on that subject from the previous B&D

 

[Usirius1]

When taking this in blotter form (buccal or sublingual) any tips on reducing saliva production? Was a pain in the ass holding that shit in for 40 minutes. I was sitting on my porch looking like a dysfunctional squirrel.

 

[Usirius1]

If I understand right, the reason why the 25x compounds are inactive orally is because the BOH or BOMe is cleaved during first pass metabolism. What exact biology process is believed to be responsible for that?

 

[BluLait]

I tried 25i-nbome about an year ago. JESUS CHRIST I so loved it, the euphoria was unmatched... maybe only by MDMA.

Visuals kinda like acid. I took around 1.5 mg and it was so fucking insane I had to take a bunch of xanax to abort my trip in the end. But until then I liked it. A lot.

Kind of felt like it puts a lot of strain on your heart... something that acid doesn't do.. And because of that I have not taken anymore.

Might try it again... someday.

 

[Usirius1]

Took 1mg the other day nasally, after drinking a box of wine. Hit so hard I blacker out for about half an hour, then my frirnd showed up knocking on the door, I was so paranoid, I was seeing cop cars outside with their lights flashing

 

[jacky09ftw]

has anyone tried large doses ranging from 5mg - 30mg ? i know 30mg isnt normal lol. Ended up taking them at tennetts vital festival was first time tripping at a club or festival type environment but 30 tabs at 1000ug just happened. anyways i lived, anyone else tried this amount and if so what did you think of it?

 

[Usirius1]

has anyone tried large doses ranging from 5mg - 30mg ? i know 30mg isnt normal lol. Ended up taking them at tennetts vital festival was first time tripping at a club or festival type environment but 30 tabs at 1000ug just happened. anyways i lived, anyone else tried this amount and if so what did you think of it?

30mg? Did you just swallow them, or did you hold them under your tongue or cheek? If you didn't just swallow them, how long did you hold them in? Was this Thirty all at once, or throughout the festival?

 

[zn13bt]

has anyone tried large doses ranging from 5mg - 30mg ? i know 30mg isnt normal lol. Ended up taking them at tennetts vital festival was first time tripping at a club or festival type environment but 30 tabs at 1000ug just happened. anyways i lived, anyone else tried this amount and if so what did you think of it?

A normal buccal dose for most of us is 0.5-1.5mg. People have had seizures with nasal doses at 3-4mg. Taking 30mg is likely suicidal if you get the full dose all at once, though there are a couple of users who claim to have taken that much and survived.

 

[Usirius1]

Just spit out 1mg worth of blotters, after sitting in my cheek for n hour. I'm a concert now. Shitty fucking opening band. I'm high and this shit still sucks

 

[rabaz]

A normal buccal dose for most of us is 0.5-1.5mg. People have had seizures with nasal doses at 3-4mg. Taking 30mg is likely suicidal if you get the full dose all at once, though there are a couple of users who claim to have taken that much and survived.

Recently I took 24mg (in 1mg blotters) in a single session over about 9 hours (taking them). I fully agree that 30mg would give you a very reasonable expectation of death. About an hour after finishing the last one I couldn't move, I couldn't see any of the objects or walls in the room and ended up having a couple of mild seizure-like episodes. I took my trip chilling in my living room, with a nice big playlist queued up. I guess a good 3 hours after the last tab I was able to crawl off to my bedroom to lie down properly. I must have been just lying on my bed for about 6 hours - I couldn't try and sleep, it was terrifying whenever I tried to close my eyes.

The next (well... the next next day) day I was perfectly fine when I woke up. This was a week ago now, and I haven't felt any ill effects from the experience... but I really wouldn't recommend taking anything that you consider would be a hefty dose. I have been with someone when they totally flipped on this stuff (6mg). I'm really glad no one died that night - it was one of those situations where it was becoming likely.

 

[psy997]

Recently I took 24mg (in 1mg blotters) in a single session over about 9 hours (taking them). I fully agree that 30mg would give you a very reasonable expectation of death.

And you don't think 24mg would give a very reasonable expectation of death? I personally know someone who died from 2mg.

THIS IS FOOLISH AND IRRESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOR

 

[hexagram]

still think that it's an underrated drug. Nice euphoria and body rushes, insane giggling fits and visuals. Three tabs over a night made for an incredibly fun, goofy, funny night.

still doesn't come close to the out of reality, mind fucking feeling LSD and AL-LAD gave me where I felt like I was in a whole other dimension, and it doesn't have the introspection and self analysis I got on aMT. But it was still a fun, entertaining drug.

and it's worth noting that although I didn't experience much mindfuck, it's still the only psychedelic to have given me synenthesia.

 

[rabaz]

And you don't think 24mg would give a very reasonable expectation of death? I personally know someone who died from 2mg.

THIS IS FOOLISH AND IRRESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOR

I'm really sorry psy997. I didn't mean it to sound like I would condone, or thought it was a good idea in any way. I apologise.

I was not at a good point when I took that dosage - I do not think anyone should be doing what I did that night... That is what I did, and that was how I experienced it. I can confirm that it won't definitely kill you. But I can confirm it could.

This was extremely reckless behaviour.

 

[zn13bt]

Recently I took 24mg (in 1mg blotters) in a single session over about 9 hours (taking them). I fully agree that 30mg would give you a very reasonable expectation of death. About an hour after finishing the last one I couldn't move, I couldn't see any of the objects or walls in the room and ended up having a couple of mild seizure-like episodes. I took my trip chilling in my living room, with a nice big playlist queued up. I guess a good 3 hours after the last tab I was able to crawl off to my bedroom to lie down properly. I must have been just lying on my bed for about 6 hours - I couldn't try and sleep, it was terrifying whenever I tried to close my eyes.

The next (well... the next next day) day I was perfectly fine when I woke up. This was a week ago now, and I haven't felt any ill effects from the experience... but I really wouldn't recommend taking anything that you consider would be a hefty dose. I have been with someone when they totally flipped on this stuff (6mg). I'm really glad no one died that night - it was one of those situations where it was becoming likely.

Can I ask, why are you and your friends taking such insane doses? Even 6mg is waaaaay too much.

 

[rabaz]

Can I ask, why are you and your friends taking such insane doses? Even 6mg is waaaaay too much.

Sorry... These are 2 totally separate things. I took my dose, on my own, in my own flat.

TBH, I wouldn't say 6mg is too much.... it reallty does depend over what period of time you are taking it. (e.g. 6mg @ 1mg/tab = 1 each hour... for anyone that would be very different were it taken all at once). Quantity/time definitely does make a difference. I won't pretend to know enough to make any further judgement than that x @ once will not be the same as x/time.

Had I used 6mg over the period i used 24 over, I suspect I would have flicked between a little bit there, and fairly normal (Again, I would advise against but anything I might do to/with myself).




I am very poor at expressing myself... and please don't take anything that I say as good advice if I ever talk about it, it's probably not a good idea. I would like to help people as may need advice or guidance, and my advice and guidance would be to yes, try it, but only buy one tab/equiv.. Get to know, and understand it a bit.... but fuck... don't abuse it... it really is a bad idea. There are plenty of other things in this field to abuse in a much less dangerous and/or self destructive way. (This is ONLY my opninion)