The Big & Dandy 25I-NBOMe Thread (3rd edition)

[jesuspeople666]

24 december was the last time i did it, i have already tried 2-3 times before and the last dose was 1.5 mg, i have some previous post about it in this thread
i even smoke hash and drank alcohol like 3 hours after taking the 3 mg dose without that doing my trip any stronger really
i just feel the visuals im getting isent enough, and i feel like i could handle 20 times move heavier trip

 

[IamMe90]

You only waited a week before tripping again, that's not usually enough with NBOMes, wait longer next time. Also, there are other psychedelics out there that may better suit your needs with better safety profiles. Better to try those then to push the dose dangerously high with 25i. Why not get some 2c-e? Still pretty easy to find, very visual, and the doses can be pushed higher.

 

[Onandoff]

Phenibut + any psychedelics = winnnn for me.
Totally eliminates any anxiety I get often with psyches. I've tried 25i nbome before last year and I didn't get any of the uncomfortable body load I would get with 2c-e. 25i is very smooth and enjoyable. Blotters never work for me. Liquid insufflation off a vial with dropper always does the trick.

 

[Survived Abortion]

I've tried 25i nbome before last year and I didn't get any of the uncomfortable body load I would get with 2c-e. 25i is very smooth and enjoyable.

The point being made is that you can push the dose up with 2C-E (or similar compounds) if you are not satisfied with the sensory enhancements. You can't do that with the NBOMes, because the margin between an effective dose and a dangerous one is paper thin.

 

[IamMe90]

Yeah, I was just giving an example of a psychedelic that is known for being pretty visual with a fairly large safety margin. DOC or a DOx for that matter would be better for that matter. The problem with the NBOMes is that people aren't getting the results they're expecting from the proper dose range and pushing the doses higher. That's not how you should treat NBOMes. Take doses within the acceptable range; if you aren't getting a visual enough trip, or you aren't getting what you expected, give the chem up and try a different one. Better than to risk your life.

 

[cryptix420]

Phenibut + any psychedelics = winnnn for me.
Totally eliminates any anxiety I get often with psyches. I've tried 25i nbome before last year and I didn't get any of the uncomfortable body load I would get with 2c-e. 25i is very smooth and enjoyable. Blotters never work for me. Liquid insufflation off a vial with dropper always does the trick.

I used to feel the same way, until I took phenibut with methoxetamine. Not to thread jack, I just feel this is important information to share. About an hour into the experience all my limbs and even my facial muscles started twitching uncontrollably. I call my girlfriend, tell her I have parkinsons (she knows I have a drug problem so she comes over to calm me down) and wait for her to arrive.

Once she came over, I laid in bed with her, taking deep breaths, and still twitching, until I took 25mg diphenhydramine to sleep. I woke up an hour later with paramedics in my room; apparently I'd woken her by pulling her hair quite hard, with her to wake up seeing me frothing at the mouth and having a seizure. Got to take yet another ride in the ambulance.

So, tl;dr, phenibut is not always safe, nor is benadryl, or methoxetamine. And especially the 3 combined together. Lol.

 

[प्रेत]

cryptix, just out of curiosity, what happened next? how did the paramedics treat you? did they administer more drugs and if so which/etc.

 

[cryptix420]

They just gave me a saline IV and monitored my vitals for a while. Ironically I felt fine once I walked out and got in the ambulance; my body had finally won the battle. I asked them if I had to go in the ambulance, and the police officer who was also there said 'it's either that or jail' so I obliged and went to the hospital. None of them had heard of MXE, and it was more or less a waste of time. My fault I was there though.

 

[SteveGreen420]

Can you redose on 25i?

Can you continue to redose small amounts of 25i through out a few hours to produce stronger effects? visually??

 

[Solipsis]

Apparently not, tolerance builds up very quickly which would mean that you would have to redose irresponsibly high and erratically to compensate... and risk overdosing because you can't be sure of where you land.

Maybe redosing once after a fair starting dose, within a reasonable timeframe - I'm pretty sure people have reported that to work to some extent.

 

[ConspiracyTheory]

Does anyone know if this affects tolerance with tryptamines at all? I'm hoping to get some blotters of this in the next week and was wondering if I take 25I-NBOME on one night and then a tryptamine the next night, will it affect the effects of the tryptamine at all.

 

[Survived Abortion]

Yes, it will effect tolerance with all 5-ht2a agonist psychedelics. Of course, other psychedelics have different preferences for other receptor subtypes than the NBOMes, so you will feel something, but the sensory enhancements/distortions will be markedly diminished.

Wait at least 3 days (tripping on the fourth day) if you want to get something out of your tryptamine trip, but better to wait a week or two. I tripped on miprocetin (4-AcO-MiPT) 3 days after an NBOMe trip, and it worked with CEVs and all, although it was not a full capacity trip.

 

[Synaesthesia242]

Does anyone know if this affects tolerance with tryptamines at all? I'm hoping to get some blotters of this in the next week and was wondering if I take 25I-NBOME on one night and then a tryptamine the next night, will it affect the effects of the tryptamine at all.

Absolutely. We tripped balls on this, and a week later I dropped some acid and a bit of MDMA, the effects were greatly lessened, particularly the visuals.

 

[Onandoff]

Damnn... that's scary. Are you ok now?
Never had that issue with phenibut. I use it like once or twice a week... but the second time I use it in a week doesn't work well as the first time. Not sure about mxe but it definately mixes very well with any other psyches for me including mj.
Anyways, I cut my batch of 25i and 25b with dextrose for easier dosing. Dextrose is just sugar and it mixes well with them so If anyone has trouble measuring or dosing you could follow that method. If anyone is using the liquid method I mean.

I used to feel the same way, until I took phenibut with methoxetamine. Not to thread jack, I just feel this is important information to share. About an hour into the experience all my limbs and even my facial muscles started twitching uncontrollably. I call my girlfriend, tell her I have parkinsons (she knows I have a drug problem so she comes over to calm me down) and wait for her to arrive.

Once she came over, I laid in bed with her, taking deep breaths, and still twitching, until I took 25mg diphenhydramine to sleep. I woke up an hour later with paramedics in my room; apparently I'd woken her by pulling her hair quite hard, with her to wake up seeing me frothing at the mouth and having a seizure. Got to take yet another ride in the ambulance.

So, tl;dr, phenibut is not always safe, nor is benadryl, or methoxetamine. And especially the 3 combined together. Lol.

 

[zn13bt]

Anyways, I cut my batch of 25i and 25b with dextrose for easier dosing. Dextrose is just sugar and it mixes well with them so If anyone has trouble measuring or dosing you could follow that method. If anyone is using the liquid method I mean.

How are you doing this? If you mix two different dry substances, you can get hot spots due to granular convection. This is a huge problem with NBOMes, which have little margin for error. Liquid measuring is much safer because once a substance goes into solution you can be sure that it is evenly distributed throughout.

 

[Darkstorn]

I'd like to enter the dosage discussion again here, i think it's an important matter for this substance. I've done it prior early in this thread too but i'll be a bit more in-depth this time:

In regards to a maximum(absolute) safe starting dose, i would say 500 micrograms, at the most. We have to take into account both the high dose-response curve AND the extremely variable effects it has on other people: Someone's 500 micrograms is anothers' 3 mg. Then the administration method: Nasal administration is far, far more effective than buccal. Same goes for vaporizing. In this context, 250 micrograms would be a more appropriate starting dose.

Now, for my subjective view; I've only ever administered it nasally so i absolutely cannot take part in any blotter discussion, but here goes: 1 mg for me easily matches 1 mg of LSD in intensity. That's a big deal. And 2 mg is not the same as 2 x 1 mg. For me the intensity went up a hundred fold; I'd say 2 mg is a potentially dangerous dose nasally. Do not fuck around with this substance. I cannot emphasize this enough.

All those "i do 20mg doses!" people should be given an award for stupidity. As long as they could keep quiet about their habits, but unfortunately they won't: You WILL see ridiculous suggestions about NBOMe doses. For this reason the idea of moderating such posts is a very, very good idea; And we do need to come into a consensus about safe doses.

So i say this: 250mcg should be the agreed upon "good starting dose" when taking into account not everyone will do it on blotters. Saying 500 mics could be dangerously misleading. Safety should be taken into account before anything else.

I was afraid for my life with 2 mg. So, keep the starting doses *fucking low.* :D

 

[dan k]

700ug naisaly is the most I would recomend anyone for there first nbome experience. I perfer 25c though it feels less toxic on my body.

 

[Survived Abortion]

I'd like to enter the dosage discussion again here, i think it's an important matter for this substance. I've done it prior early in this thread too but i'll be a bit more in-depth this time:

In regards to a maximum(absolute) safe starting dose, i would say 500 micrograms, at the most. We have to take into account both the high dose-response curve AND the extremely variable effects it has on other people: Someone's 500 micrograms is anothers' 3 mg. Then the administration method: Nasal administration is far, far more effective than buccal. Same goes for vaporizing. In this context, 250 micrograms would be a more appropriate starting dose.

Now, for my subjective view; I've only ever administered it nasally so i absolutely cannot take part in any blotter discussion, but here goes: 1 mg for me easily matches 1 mg of LSD in intensity. That's a big deal. And 2 mg is not the same as 2 x 1 mg. For me the intensity went up a hundred fold; I'd say 2 mg is a potentially dangerous dose nasally. Do not fuck around with this substance. I cannot emphasize this enough.

All those "i do 20mg doses!" people should be given an award for stupidity. As long as they could keep quiet about their habits, but unfortunately they won't: You WILL see ridiculous suggestions about NBOMe doses. For this reason the idea of moderating such posts is a very, very good idea; And we do need to come into a consensus about safe doses.

So i say this: 250mcg should be the agreed upon "good starting dose" when taking into account not everyone will do it on blotters. Saying 500 mics could be dangerously misleading. Safety should be taken into account before anything else.

I was afraid for my life with 2 mg. So, keep the starting doses *fucking low.* :D

Great post. Thankyou for this injection of sanity, every one needs to pay attention.

Are we going to get moving with this poll or what?

 

[doomsdayguy]

I'd like to enter the dosage discussion again here, i think it's an important matter for this substance. I've done it prior early in this thread too but i'll be a bit more in-depth this time:

In regards to a maximum(absolute) safe starting dose, i would say 500 micrograms, at the most. We have to take into account both the high dose-response curve AND the extremely variable effects it has on other people: Someone's 500 micrograms is anothers' 3 mg. Then the administration method: Nasal administration is far, far more effective than buccal. Same goes for vaporizing. In this context, 250 micrograms would be a more appropriate starting dose.

Now, for my subjective view; I've only ever administered it nasally so i absolutely cannot take part in any blotter discussion, but here goes: 1 mg for me easily matches 1 mg of LSD in intensity. That's a big deal. And 2 mg is not the same as 2 x 1 mg. For me the intensity went up a hundred fold; I'd say 2 mg is a potentially dangerous dose nasally. Do not fuck around with this substance. I cannot emphasize this enough.

All those "i do 20mg doses!" people should be given an award for stupidity. As long as they could keep quiet about their habits, but unfortunately they won't: You WILL see ridiculous suggestions about NBOMe doses. For this reason the idea of moderating such posts is a very, very good idea; And we do need to come into a consensus about safe doses.

So i say this: 250mcg should be the agreed upon "good starting dose" when taking into account not everyone will do it on blotters. Saying 500 mics could be dangerously misleading. Safety should be taken into account before anything else.

I was afraid for my life with 2 mg. So, keep the starting doses *fucking low.* :D

On blotters, 500 ug is more than enough for a starting dose (as long as it's complexed blotter...higher absorption rates).

Never tried nasally, but 250 should be about right. I'd say 100ug is even a good starting dose for nasal because although tolerance builds, redosing with another 300ug if the effects aren't up to snuff is safer than taking 500ug at one time and potentially losing one's head.

The only person here who did 20mg was lucky he didn't die, but thinks his high stim tolerance has something to do with it (vasoconstriction wasn't bad enough to cause a seizure, although at 20 mg, I'm sure his mind was racing to hell and back.

I mean. Fuck. A milligram makes me feel like the world is ending at the peak, I cannot even fathom what 20mg would feel like as far as intensity and length of the trip goes.

Does anybody else get an apocalyptic feeling at high doses of this?

 

[webdesignnomad]

Hey guys I am looking for some advice. Now I am not experienced with psychedelics at all, I have only smoked a shitload of weed, some MDMA and done LSD once at a low dose (100mics). I have been meaning to get into psychedelics for along time now, the concept really interests me and I take it greatly upon myself to always seek personal development and I think I have a fairly strong and positive mindset.

I just got my hands on 15 x 600mic 25i-nbome tabs complexed. I was going to take 1 and a 1/2 tabs tomorrow morning so 900 mics. Safety is a huge factor for me and I have done probably upwards of 5 hours of reading on this particular substance and peoples experiences with it. I see recently people have been saying that a good starting dose is 500mics but I want to go higher. Every time I go to try something new it always ends up not working as effectively. I think a large reason for that is I am not a very sensitive person in general. I don't want to be left wanting more as I rarely get the opportunity to have a spare day to trip like this. Do you think taking 900mics is alright? I personally feel that I can handle it well and the person I bought it off said take 2 tabs if you are strong willed, you make feel anxious and scared at the start but it will pass. Take 1.5 tabs if you are not strong willed.

I am not willing to do anything stupid and take over 1mg yet so I am thinking of going with his 1.5 tab advice. Also I will be trying it with 2 other friends and have fully informed them about the substance and the nature of it. They also seem to have a very low sensitivity to things in general compared to others.