The Big & Dandy 25I-NBOMe Thread (3rd edition)

[jesuspeople666]

^ sounds like you got shit blotters

these are "comboblotters" with 25i AND 25c on it, 500 mcs of each ,bought from an internet vendor and people that have tryed the same blotters i have read their messages at an other forum and they should not be anything wrong with the blotters

 

[Transform]

Don't forget the tolerance to bomamines is fierce. 10 days isn't enough to relieve tolerance even if you didn't properly trip the first time around

 

[weadazoid]

Yeah....once you hit 1 mg isn't it a month? I know it is a long wait, but I will be honest, waiting a full 2 weeks from 500 ug to 1mg was the 100% right thing to do

 

[Sepher]

these are "comboblotters" with 25i AND 25c on it, 500 mcs of each ,bought from an internet vendor and people that have tryed the same blotters i have read their messages at an other forum and they should not be anything wrong with the blotters

You taking any medication at the moment? SSRI for instance?

 

[jesuspeople666]

You taking any medication at the moment? SSRI for instance?

no nothing.

i had a experience with lsd for about 4-5 years ago, a dealer i dident know sold me what he told me was lsd, it was just 4 plain white blotters and he told me to take everyone at once and ill be tripping, i did take them all and that time also i had only different though and feelings and NO VISUALS 8)
i have only get visuals on high doses of mdma before, have anyone heard about people what cant get any visuals from psychedelics before?

 

[Jesusgreen]

^ Did you take the blotter bucally/sublingually? I'm surprised that it looks like no-one asked this already, but yeah 25I-NBOMe isn't active when swallowed orally, but has to be kept in the mouth instead, the longer the better, and the less saliva swallowed the better. I'd recommend around an hour, or more if you can handle it.

People mentioned current medication but did you ever take SSRIs or similar medication in the past? Often people have observed a long term reduction in the effects of MDMA and psychedelics post use.

Most likely though I get the feeling in the past you were sold extremely weak blotter if he told you to take all 4 blotters and you didn't get any visuals at that level - and that this time you made the mistake of swallowing the blotter?

 

[jesuspeople666]

i have never used ssri's, or any anti-depressants at all before
i have never had problems that ecstasy or mdma dont work at me, i allways rolling hard, even had visuals or like seeng peoples faces morphing etc on high doses.
belive me i had the blotters buccaly every time i tried the 3 times ive tried nbome now, and hold it for 1 hours and a half or more, not swallowing spit at all, waiting for some visuals effects, but nothing.
im gonna try again on new years eve with maybe 2 blotters and if i dont get any effects after 30 minutes i maybe will take another blotter..or if not anny visuals them, another.....and continuing?ive got 7 blotters left. think ill be ok?

but one thing im sure it cant be "shit blotters" because i have the mental feelings and huge pupiles but no visuals... maybe had a little wavy view but its so minimal its almost not there.

 

[kidklmx]

but one thing im sure it cant be "shit blotters" because i have the mental feelings and huge pupiles but no visuals... maybe had a little wavy view but its so minimal its almost not there.

I have had that same trip a couple of time, there's a bit of the standard waving and the entire world being a little bit different, a bit of color enhancement, but no true visuals at all. It could be from shit blotter, because from what I understand a lot of those sold are, and this only happens until about 600ug-700ug of a single substance. (I don't buy blotters, so I know the dosage pretty accurately)

I wouldn't go for 7mgs, that could be really dangerous if it really is that amount. Be cautious too, because maybe they are laid uneven or something, and you have a higher dose on the ones you have left. I'd take 3-4 of these max, you never know what could happen.

 

[Survived Abortion]

This is extremely irregular. I have heard of the odd one or two similar cases, but it's very rare indeed. It seems to me that those people probably hadn't really taken a legitimate psychedelic compound at the right dose, that maybe they had been ripped off with something bunk every time.

Please note, I have taken 4 blotters of supposed LSD before and didn't trip. Later I found out why - they were the bunk hoffman bicycle blotters that still seem to be doing the rounds. Having had prior experience with LSD, I knew that they were bunk/dosed too low and that it was not some peculiar case of natural tolerance.

Maybe something similar happened to you. Maybe you got ripped off before with LSD. (It happens a lot. Twice for me now; once with blotters and another time with liquid.) Maybe you also got ripped off this time with the 25i aswell in terms of dosage. A small dosage would be enough to dilate your pupils and affect you mentally whilst lacking in visuals. I think you're just not getting the right dose.

With NBOMes, you also need to remember to wash your mouth out - preferably brushing your teeth - to maximize absorption. New Year's Eve may not be enough time to reset tolerance, but you can of course try. But I would advise trying a different psychedelic; NBOMes don't really have much headroom for expansion of dosage due to negative side-effects.

There is of course one more possibility, but I am skeptical of it. Perhaps there is a very small percentage of people who have an extremely poor capacity to visualize their thoughts/senses/feelings. Maybe this is due to some dormant gene which needs re-activating, or an inattentive third-eye due to stifled energy channels adjacent to that region. Like riding a bike or learning a musical instrument, this would be something you can train and practice and bring into life.

When I think back to my first mushroom trip - which was my first ever 'classical' psychedelic - it wasn't very visual in the sense of the type of OEVs and CEVs I get on psychedelics today. Perhaps it was because I was too busy thinking the whole universe was laughing at me, but I also think that it takes some time to learn to notice such effects if your mind is completely new to such modes of perception. Getting actively lost in thought can detract from the visuals, especially if those thoughts are not positive. And trying to conjure visuals may actually make them hide from you. The more relaxed your mind is, and the more positive your outlook, the more colourful, visual, and vibrant a trip becomes.

Keep at it, you will eventually be able to experience OEVs and CEVs. Make sure you take enough time between experiences to reset tolerance.

 

[sightsandsounds]

My experience limited to mushrooms, but interested in NBOMe and LSD.

If taking NBOMe, what variation and microgram would be a good, safe dose? Since this is my first time, I want to avoid a major chance of freaking out, having worrisome thoughts and feelings, and minimize high blood pressure and rapid heart beat. I'd rather underdo it than overdue it my first time.

So, D, I, or C? And I'd imagine something under 500 micrograms?

 

[theUniverse]

I'm convinced you have the HCL and were lied to about it being freebase, at least given your experiences. Freebase does not work bucally at all unless you take a ton (I overshot on the 20mg... it'd be more around 10mg)

Remember, I'm talking about taking freebase bucally/sublingually. If you snort 10mg you will die. If you IV 10mg you will die. We're talking about blotters in this context though, and the freebase just will not absorb well or fast enough at any dose. HPBCD complex is essentially a condom that goes over the 25i molecule to transport it across cell membranes and get it into your bloodstream. The freebase is only about 10-20% absorbant, HCL 60-70%, and complexed freebase 90-95%. You were not sold freebase if you are able to use blotters to take it bucally/sublingually, it just doesn't work that way.

I stated very clearly that I received FREEBASE powder, and converted it to an acetate solution, then had this laid out to blotter. I was not tricked into getting the wrong salt, I use a very trusted vendor. There are also easy tests that I did to test if it was HCL or freebase.

You should really stop posting "freebase doesn't work unless you take 20mg" because people might see only your post, and go right ahead with a dose lethally high.

 

[doomsdayguy]

I stated very clearly that I received FREEBASE powder, and converted it to an acetate solution, then had this laid out to blotter. I was not tricked into getting the wrong salt, I use a very trusted vendor. There are also easy tests that I did to test if it was HCL or freebase.

You should really stop posting "freebase doesn't work unless you take 20mg" because people might see only your post, and go right ahead with a dose lethally high.

Uhhh, hello? Up until now you have only said "I have freebase and made blotters with it." Did not talk about converting it to the HCL salt.

 

[Nature]

My experience limited to mushrooms, but interested in NBOMe and LSD.

If taking NBOMe, what variation and microgram would be a good, safe dose? Since this is my first time, I want to avoid a major chance of freaking out, having worrisome thoughts and feelings, and minimize high blood pressure and rapid heart beat. I'd rather underdo it than overdue it my first time.

So, D, I, or C? And I'd imagine something under 500 micrograms?

I only have experience with 25i out of the common NBOMe's and it hits me pretty hard - I would definitely not go over 500 micrograms for your first trip. Some people do end up needing more than that for a good trip but given how much it seems to vary from person to person and my personal experience with pretty powerful results at low doses, taking the side of caution and not going over 500 mics for your first time is the responsible route.

 

[theUniverse]

Uhhh, hello? Up until now you have only said "I have freebase and made blotters with it." Did not talk about converting it to the HCL salt.

Nowhere did I say HCL, I said, and I quote,

20 times is a bit steep. 1mg was enough to trip with non-overwhelming visuals. 2.5mg of uncomplexed, acetate material produced overwhelming effects, everything was warping, moving patterns appear over everything. My jeans started producing these fabric "vines" that grew around my leg, then faded into nothing and repeated. Bright colors, and what me and my group have come to call the bloom effect, exactly like what happens in games when bloom is turned up, except instead of regular glare, its kaleidoscopic colors.

Which was in reply to a post saying that it is not possible to have any salts other than HCL, and that you must have HCL or complexed tabs to trips, which is false

There are more salts than just HCL, and I've seen a lot of mis-information go around because of people assuming what others have not said.

 

[Ineffable14]

I have 800mcg complexed 25i blotters from a trusted vendor, is one 800mcg dosed buccally a good place to start?
I have quite a bit of psychedelic experience under my belt, and have never tried 25i,
does the fact that they are complexed change the dosage that much?

 

[Transform]

Complexation seems to add a bit of potency, yes.
We usually recommend about 500ug of 25I since the NBOMes have a peculiar variable response and sometimes present a lot of physical discomfort. It is definitely better to underdose the first time to gauge your body's response.

 

[abrad84]

It's a little high IMO, try half. I think extra caution is warranted with the NBOMe's due to their unpredictable effete.

 

[weadazoid]

I would like to add once again since we are on a new page that adding a bit of magnesium and potassium ( supplement or natural) seems to help with the discomfort

 

[jesuspeople666]

so i did 3 blotters (3 mg) on new years eve, i had visuals like seeing my sigh was shaking and maybe floor on the metro moving around (because it has many different colored dots on it etc,if u know what i mean) but i mean is that all?? everything? lol. i really had to concentrate and like stare at stuff to make it move around etc, colors were brighter too and my mental mind was kinda trippy, but i never had any crazy visuals that i might read other people have.. i even had some vasokonstrikson in one leg and one arm until the next day, so atleast i know its the real deal? nbome...
is pshycedelics just overated or dosent it work at me?
got 4 blotters left and gonna try everyone at once like next month or something

[staff edit: 3 mg is a high dose that is potentially dangerous. Do not assume because this user was okay, that you can try it as well without danger. Start low!]

 

[Solipsis]

Sounds like you already got fair visuals, it is not responsible to keep pushing the dose in search of effects that match those that other people report. It is possible, even likely, that you get serious consequences from - for example - that vasoconstriction you already felt before you get the trip you are looking for.
You had not tripped in the 2 weeks before NYE, right? Otherwise tolerance might be at play. Was this your first time?

If you are not satisfied by your results, just stop at a reasonable dose. Also you might be putting other people at risk who could wrongly assume that 3 mg is fine to start with.