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The Big & Dandy 25D-NBOMe (NBOMe-2C-D) Thread

What [b]in your experience[/b] would be a maximum responsible buccal dose for 25D?

  • up to 400 μg

    Votes: 1 3.4%

  • up to 600 μg

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • up to 900 μg

    Votes: 8 27.6%

  • up to 1200 μg

    Votes: 8 27.6%

  • up to 1500 μg

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • a dose higher than 1500 μg

    Votes: 8 27.6%
  • Total voters
    29
A dose of 500 mcg is the threshold for the buccal and sublingual ROA
You can try nasal, should be a little better , but do not expect miracles at this dose
300 mcg intransally should be like 500-600 mcg buccal so its still 30 % potential power for this substance
 
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With all of the information I have gathered while researching I found out that a lot of people say that the research chemical 25C-NBOMe is the closest chemical they have tried that reminded them of LSD-25.....and for some reason it is also a lot more visual than 25C-NBOMe
 
psykap said:
A dose of 500 mcg is the threshold for the buccal and sublingual ROA
You can try nasal, should be a little better , but do not expect miracles at this dose
300 mcg intransally should be like 500-600 mcg buccal so its still 30 % potential power for this substance
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Whoa I didn't know that, those doses are lower than I expected. You say a little better but 600 is the double of 300. What doses would you say are a good first dose and an average +++ dose, intranasally? 300 for a first (after the optional idiosyncratic test) and 750-800 intranasally for a +++? Or more for a +++?

Also, which did you think was more visual, psykap... 25C or 25D?
 
Solipsis said:
Whoa I didn't know that, those doses are lower than I expected. You say a little better but 600 is the double of 300. What doses would you say are a good first dose and an average +++ dose, intranasally? 300 for a first (after the optional idiosyncratic test) and 750-800 intranasally for a +++? Or more for a +++?

Also, which did you think was more visual, psykap... 25C or 25D?
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Psykap is definitely our resident expert, bit i'll chime in with my brief thoughts.

500 ug liquid insufflated was a full on ++ that had a peak which became +++ on the strict Shulgin scale for a period of time. This amount allowed one to get a great feel for the material and still maintain a semblance of control... but wouldn't have wanted to be in a full on public place surrounded by nontrippers. 300 ug might be a bit light for a full on ++ flirting with +++, but probably wouldn't be a bad place to start to get familiarized with the 25D.

I'm my estimation, 25C was more visual than 25D, but I also don't think that I've sufficiently pushed the 25D to the point that I have with 25C, and thus can't unequivocally say that for sure. The 25D might blossom with oev and cev at higher than 500ug.

The visuals were qualitatively different thought seems. The 25C was fractals and edges with floating dots in Sharp relief whereas the 25D was fluid, melty and dreamy swaths of heightened color.
 
Yesterday was the day of my 2nd voyage with this compound. The "vehicle" was again 2 mg blotter (buccal administration).

I've reached ++++.

I can recomend this compound.

Peak of this experience changed my life.
 
Solipsis its hard to say what is more visual , 25C like and 25D are very good but this from 25C are for me very specific (somebody can tell that OEVs and CEVs are similar to LSD , yes its true but change perception for 25D reminds me LSD or DOM in high dose ( typical geometric visuals )
I expect that the dose 800-1 mg intransally should be enough for u on full +++
Of course both compounds I tried in the fullest dose and these are my observations.
 
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Hi guys,

Would 800 ug be a good starting dose for someone who is already experienced with psychedelics? Would it be worth to start out with 1200 ug? Can you walk outside on 800 ug.

Thanks,

Levi
 
I'm assuming since we're talking 800mcg units you have blotters? I'd say go for 1200. You should be fine to walk outside.
 
Yes, blotter are involved. As I understand this chemical starts kicking in very quick, like 10-20 min. Is that correct. Really looking to trying this out. Will post back with my experience if I find some cool people to try it with.

I am not too sure I'd want to do this solo. Doing psychedelics solo (I've only tried shrooms solo) can be an anxious experience.
 
It starts for me in 30-40 min, depending on dose. 25d-nbome is light psychedelic, especially in low doses like 1200ug, so don't worry.
If you are experienced with psychedelics I recommend start from 1500-1600ug
 
i'd try it out below a milligram first, regardless of experience. The bomamines tend to have somewhat idiosyncratic dosages, so best to err on the side of caution, especially the first go-round.
 
Sounds like an interesting compound, I think I'll be getting some when I get paid. Has anyone combined it with alcohol? Any negative effects to speak of? I'm considering taking it at a festival and I plan to be drinking a fair amount during the day.
 
levictus said:
... As I understand this chemical starts kicking in very quick, like 10-20 min. Is that correct.
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This is something I can confirm. Haven't tried it on my own yet, but a friend of mine who took 1100µg via nasal spray with surfactant reported an onset of about 5-10 minutes. The whole trip lasted around 6h with a little afterglow for 3 more hours.

Doubtful that sublingual / buccal ROA will show completely the same results, but onset in less than 30min should be typical.
 
What is the best way to take a blotter? Sublingual looks a bit hit and miss, but insuffulation looks to be very reliable and easy.

Could one shred up a blotter, dampen the sludge and insufflate it?
 
I've taken blotters 3 times now and the easiest method is to put the blotter between the upper gum and upper lip and let it stay there for about 20 minutes.
It works just fine. As far as dose is concerned i have following observations.

0,75 mg - little speedy feeling, minor color enhancement, no psychedelic effects
1,5 mg - a lot of energy, some emphatic thoughts, distinct CEVs, major color enhancement
2 mg - same as above but more visual (textures morphing, bright rainbow-like colors all over the field of view)
 
JSPete said:
What is the best way to take a blotter? Sublingual looks a bit hit and miss, but insuffulation looks to be very reliable and easy.

Could one shred up a blotter, dampen the sludge and insufflate it?
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I don't think it's a good idea to insufflate the blotter.
It should be possible to extract the 25D from blotters using nonpolar solvents like IPA or EtOH, then evaporating the solvent to get the pure substance. This can be vaporized, sniffed directly or put into solution for liquid insufflation or whatever you want.
Maybe it's also possible to use distilled water as solvent for the extraction, depending on saturation of 25D and only if you have the HCl-salt on your blotter (otherwise you need to drop pH first).
If you intend to ingest the blotter itself then putting it where the sun doesn't shine together with a little water should be the most effective (if this is a possible opportunity for you ;) ) followed by sublingual ROA.

Sublingual really seems to be a bit wasteful, as the used dose/respone-curve is a little too flat for all the 25D being completely absorbed and transported to the receptors. Administered in an accurate way 1mg of this one does make most people trippin balls (+++).
 
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IPA and EtOH are plenty polar my friend. ;) But hardly relevant so apologies.

Letting a solution dry just like that on a surface seems wasteful to me, the quantity is so small that part of the dose is easily lost if you try to scrape a mg with a razor to snort it. I don't know about your techniques but it doesn't seem less wasteful than something like sublingual use of blotter might be.
I'm kind of recommending a carrier in the 25C-NBOMe thread, something like dextrose powder basically. If you let a drop of solution fall on that to dry you shouldn't really lose anything because unlike doing without a carrier you are snorting the complete 'underground surface' so to speak.
 
Thanks a lot for correcting, wasn't sure and too lazy to look this up. ;)
Evaporation of solvent on carrier really seems to be a good way I forgot.
How do you think about liquid insufflation with surfactant via nasal spray Solipsis?
 
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