Welcome to the Big & Dandy 25C-NBOMe Thread
Synonym: NBOMe-2C-C / Chemical Name 2-(4-chloro-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-N-(2-methoxybenzyl)ethanamine
Synonym: NBOMe-2C-C / Chemical Name 2-(4-chloro-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-N-(2-methoxybenzyl)ethanamine

Description: Psychedelic / entactogen
Dosage: 200 - 1000 micrograms, intranasal or sublingual; 50-500 micrograms, smoked (as freebase).
Administration: strictly parenteral.
Duration: 4-8 hours
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Figured the old one was getting a bit long.
Some posts from the previous thread:
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I just enjoy the ol' way of taking it by mouth. When i took 3 Buccal spray shots from a pre-made spray (from a friend), I would say that i touched the +4 area honestly.
I'm extremely hard on my reviews of substances but this stuff truly blew me away. The visuals were the best I've ever had since the 1 of 2 times I ever had real LSD.
The body load WAS pretty gnarly, I cannot deny that. I had a hacking cough from the week before and when I coughed, it was very deep. I didn't feel actual nausea, but when I had these hacking coughs, it's almost like the cough simply followed through into vomiting. I had an empty stomach from not eating until that point, so all that really came up was some white foamy shit. I can tell you that I DID NOT hold those 3 sprays in my mouth very long, though, if at all. It was a simple spray, then wait.
I did stagger the sprays. 1 spray unfront, 2 after 5 minutes.
I am 6'1 - 190 lbs (about)
The reason people are getting varied results is simple, this stuff follows the same rules as the fake bake that's been going around.
RC's are just varied in results dependent on the user.
I was a big fan of the scentsi-star brand fake bake, but when my friend smoked it he felt NOTHING.
My friend who had the buccal spray said that there was a single girl who said she felt nothing.
As for my trip report, that I have failed to write, I will make it short and sweet.
0.00 - took a spray
t- 5 mins - took two more
t- 15 minutes - start to feel a DEFINITE come up, almost overwhelming
t- 25 Minutes - My hacking cough kicks in. I believe that this stuff makes you a bit mucusy too. I'm sweating BALLS, moreso than on MDMA. I am starting to get MINOR CEV's and I can tell that my vision is trying to merge the real world with the tripping world. I decide to get in the pool. OMG does the pool feel AMAZING. I feel like i'm at peace. THe mild tremors I felt coming on are a little more solidified, but the water REALLY helps me relax.
t- 35 mins - I'm starting to get tripped out by the ripples im making in the water. It's not full out tripping. More like things are moving in slow motion, and like there is a mild oil discoloration to the water. p.s - my friend and wife are sitting by the pool watching me.
t-50 mins - still in the pool, and GOOD GOD, the visuals are just full blown. I see what I call the "vines of life". I see FULLY in focus 3D visuals materializing before my eyes.
(Fun fact - a lot of use usually try to see things in two ways CEV's (closed eyed visuals) and OEV's (open eyed visuals). To those of us who have a horrible visual prescription, upwards of -5.50, i find a SIGNIFICANT different between having my glasses on and off. I actually prefer to have my glasses off. It allows me to see the amorphous blobs that are my friend and wife, but the trip is COMPLETELY taking up my field of vision. I honestly usually prefer my glasses off. It's like you are getting the creative freedom that CEV's permit you to have, like a blank canvas, but at the same time not being unaware of your surroundings, thus feeling much more in control. Just a little thing I've gathered from my ample tripping times.)
t- 1:30 - My friend leaves and I go to sit on the porch, i'm very content and just enjoying the visuals that are still unfolding before my eyes.
t- 3:30 - like hitting a wall, my trip just kinda cuts down. VIsuals are mild, I'm feeling a bit cracked out.
t- 5:00 - I'm done tripping. I feel VERY worn out.
t- 7:00 same as 5:00, but I know that sleep will not come. I'm mildly agitated that I'm so strung out, yet tired, but I don't let it really get to me. I expected this to happen.
t- 10:00 - I fall asleep,
next day I was pretty damn worn out, and had no want to take another hit. I felt... satisfied with the experience, enough so to go and do ALLLLL this research on it and order myself a gram.
I did have a bit of a headache, but nothing that a lil aleve couldn't help, seemed to be an obvious vaso-constricion side effect.
that's crazy about the headache I always have a headache its like clockwork and it always starts to hit me in about 5 hourmark I would be very careful about putting 50 milligrams into a vise in bottle I think there was a kid at voodoo fest last year he died the same way thats the only problem with this stuff LSD you can't overdose on this stuff is very very easy I decided that if I am going to make hits that I just that I tag my hits into gelatin capsules they don't seem to sweat as bad as little tiny baggies that was on that way I don't have to pull out of scale everytime I decide to research..... just be careful with that Visine idea man I don't know about that remember safety first
Of course.
It's just a matter of basic math.
I may just have to mix the entire gram into a large batch and then dose the vials accordingly. Once I have this large batch made, I will test 1 mL just like I did with the liquids. I will make sure their isn't some sort of crazy as difference in drop measurement. I will also test the liquid when the polysorbate gets here. I'm pretty sure it will add to the viscosity.
I plan to treat this substance with great care and respect.
What do you mean about your gelatin cap method?
Edit: even if I was to put a LITTLE more in one vial than another of the solution, it wouldn't effect the outcome per drop. As long as I have the correct measurement per drop, i'm safe.
My results are really very stable with only a MARGINAL difference in drops. I think I've really got my technique down for administering the liquids =P
Just know that a drop isn't a measurement.
Why wouldn't it be?
that is my question.
I am measuring the drops specifically.
There should be 500 ug's of the product per drop with the math I have displayed. If I get 31 drops per mL, then that is a measurement. 1/31 of a mL = 500 uG.
are you saying that the chemical within the solution wouldn't be evenly dispersed? Even if I completely mixed it in until the liquid was clear????
Personally I would be quite comfortable using drops as a measurement if you are using 5 or more drops in a dose. With NBOMes I would not be comfortable if the concentration is high enough to need only one drop per dose.
Also I was asked to give advice on using a surfactant such as polysorbate with the HCl salt of this NBOMe or others but unfortunately I don't know if this increases BA / effectivity of your dose. My guess would be that it improves it only some, but not as much as the freebase.