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The Big and Dandy NBOMe-2C-C (25C-NBOMe) Thread

25c-nbome

Its hard to get megathread answers. To dose, im going to liquid measure. Can i drop the shit on a gummi or blotter to sublingually take? i heard blottter doesnt work with this stuff but i see ppl saying to do it. or should i just drop the water in my mouth? Im going out and i want to take a few hits with me without taking my whole solution.
 
it works on blotter if you take it sublingually, nothing happens if you swallow it. Some people have had more success placing blotters between the gum & inside of your lip. However sublingual is the least reliable & efficient ROA.
 
alright today is the day of my next trial with a full 500ug. im thinking of either using a small dab of some shampoo (sodium lauryl sulfate) mixed into a drop of lime juice mixed with mouthwash as a surficant and going sublingual (lip and gum really) or atempting to wash the stuff off of the blotter and snort it with a pipette.

i just had some pancakes and apple cider mixed with orange juice (not from concentrate) and it had a surficant effect in my mouth (feels dry and irritated and a little soapy), do you all think this mix might work?

i also have black currant juice, which is a known mao-b inhibitor (60% inhibition). i noticed marked vasodilation on its own, which i believe might counteract some of the vasoconstriction of the 25C. im not a doctor nor do i know much about the cardiovascular system. what are your thoughts on this everyone?
 
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^If it's not too late I'd skip the MAO-B inhibitor. Deprenyl with phenethylamine psychedelics has resulted in a lot of worrisome symptoms. See this thread. That might be because it's a non-competitive MAO-B inhibitor, but still. In any case, if black currant juice is a smooth muscle vasodilator (if it's sold to promote sexual health) rather than a skeletal muscle vasodilator it's probably not going to do any good for psychedelic aches and pains from vasoconstriction.
 
alright, good to know. bout to drop in a few minutes here. should i let everyone know how it goes nassally (tried and true) or exeriment with the shampoo?
 
alright, good to know. bout to drop in a few minutes here. should i let everyone know how it goes nassally (tried and true) or exeriment with the shampoo?
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If I'm not too late I vote for shampoo, but admittedly I'm only voting that way because I've never had the chance to advise someone to put soap in their mouth. Didn't you say you had it on blotters? Is that the only way you have it? If so, aren't you going to need quite a bit of water to get it to permeate out if you want to do liquid nasal administration? With that much water it'll go straight through you nose and down your throat. In this particular situation rectal administration might be the best bet. However, since that route hasn't been attempted at all to my knowledge it's a bit risky (perhaps it's like DMT and doesn't work that well rectally). If I was going to do any kind of liquid administration of something on blotters I'd cut the blotter into pieces and back load them into a needless syringe and let them soak for like a half hour first.
 
No, it works great plugged, at least as well as insufflation. The membranes there are quite similar in many ways.

Oh, and as for smoking it, yes, the HCl salt works far better than the freebase, the freebase shows signs of decomposition when smoked whereas the HCl evaporates cleanly.
 
trip report up. pseudo you were too late lol. your right on the idea of plugging it, but the way we did it seemed to work just dandy :)
 
I will take the stance that it's dubious whether it belongs on the streets and when it does and there is no easy name for it perhaps that will prompt people to actually explain what the stuff is about.
Don't know who thought of it but it sounds non-descriptive.
 
Solipsis said:
I will take the stance that it's dubious whether it belongs on the streets and when it does and there is no easy name for it perhaps that will prompt people to actually explain what the stuff is about.
Don't know who thought of it but it sounds non-descriptive.
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Very much concur with the above sentiments; but - if any NBOMe-x were to be called 'intensity' - it should surely be an NBOMe-2C-T-x, for decent wordplay's sake. An 'intense CT'. ;)
 
Just call 25C-NBOMe "NBC" already lol. You know you love those TLA's.
On the other hand: don't. It's just hard to support street names, but I have a much bigger problem with the non-descript ones, especially outrageous names like 'Flying Panda' (made that up) or ones that are simply too unfortunate like 'Benzo Fury'. Commercialization should not be something we support but on the other hand I don't want people killed on the streets because there is no name to keep (other) compounds that fit on blotter separate from acid.
So if people necessarily have to, why not abbreviate to '25C' ?
 
The reason for the name was, ironically, that being not as overpowering as the DOx's and instead being more sensual (in common with MDA) it held wider appeal than the previous blotter-sized substance, and since it would probably be sold and popular, it was good to draw a distinction between this and another, very distinct, and also popular, blotter sized substance.

DOx had kind of a cult status, but due to the duration and body load they didn't have much chance of catching on. This is shorter than LSD and too friendly on the body; people I've shared this with enjoyed it immensely. So what I'm saying is, yeah, I kind of see it catching on.

I was tripping today and it drifted into my head. Possibly more descriptive than 25C, which I used to call it, from a layman's point of view, but also cursed by that in that it gives it broader appeal, when it is better that people might study before they try things. I tend to find myself in social situations on this, explaining what I'm on, and it seemed like a good summary.
 
If 25C-NBOMe or NBOMe-2C-C can't be used, I'd support 25C or NBC in all honesty. Anything that at least gives a hint toward the structure and can be readily differentiated from similar substances. Adjectives are shitty 'street names'. Anyone taking this should at least be familiar with what 2Cs are and how this differs, at least in an abstract sense.
 
the problem is that anything sold on blotter is going to be sold as acid, and anything sold in a pill is going to be sold as exctacy. no one is going to get around that no matter what you put in it, as soon as it goes into the hands of someone that dosnt know EXACTLY what it is, thats its name. hell, even people laying synthetic cannabanoids on herbs call it spice because anything that gets you a cannabanoid high that isnt weed has already been popularized as such.

if people came up with a new form to administer it in that is distinct it would have a chance of adopting a new name, and with that a chance of catching on for what it actually is. but that chance is still very slim, because it hasnt had (and probably wont have) a huge following like lsd in the 60s and mdma in the 80-90s
 
IGNVS said:
the problem is that anything sold on blotter is going to be sold as acid
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For this reason, we should hope that the people distributing this on a large scale would have the sense to put something like "NBOMe-2C-C" on the blotter.

"25C" would easily fit on a blotter and it would avoid it being sold as acid.
Pill form however is a bit more tricky, but surely blotter is much more suitable for something with a dosage so low.
 
Had another great experience with this chem a couple nights ago. I was quite surprised, I injected 250mcg into my upper shoulder as I was working at night and couldn't stay awake (I work alone and isolated) and figured by my previous experience of 600mcg I.M. that 250mcg would be a low plus 2. Well needless to say this dose kicked in much harder than anticipated, and I had an absolutely lovely experience. I got some nausea and chills at +5min and thought "uh....oh boy..." and was very up at 20 mins. I bagged off work and watched "How to Draw a Bunny" (a documentary about Ray Johnson) which I hadn't ever seen, and had an amazing and insightful communion with his work and my image of Mr. Johnson himself. Beautiful visuals, a solid empathogenic push (I get this from a good LSD trip too), and lots of valuable insight. It became very possible to look at ones life through a less distorted lens, address problems as well as successes, and the change in perspective is dramatic; this is a true psychedelic The main body of the experience lasted about 5-6 hours, with trailing after effects.

It had been about 2 weeks since my last foray with a N-BenzylOxy 2C (25B, at 400mcg) and I feel any tolerance I would have accumulated was gone. My other experience with I.M. 25C I injected into my gluteus maximus, and I am a skinny dude, but do have a bit more muscle fat on my ass than on my upper shoulder. It is possible the drug is getting caught in the muscle fat, slowing its transit to the brain, and as we all know this will significantly dampen its effects. When I inject ketamine into my shoulder I start to feel it within 1 minute, whereas it takes +5 mins when it goes in my rump. I don't know enough about human anatomy to compare and contrast the blood flow and capillary density between these two areas, but the difference was substantial in terms of intensity adjusted for dose. (The two experiences were roughly equipotent in terms of effects). It is also highly possible that the pharmocodynamics of these substances are more complex and unpredictable for other reasons. More experiences will hopefully answer some of these questions.

I am gonna say that these N-Benzyl PEAs are the most interesting and satisfying substances to come down the pipeline in many years. The mental effects are familiar (aspects of the experience feel very similar to other 5HT2 ligands like LSD or DOI, but the 5HT2A selectivity makes for a substantially different experience) and also unique..... the duration is great, the lessened body load (I was much more aware of my stomach this time, but I had just eaten) is a treat, and there is a very benevolent tone to the experience. I really like this substance!

Cheers
 
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